The great virtue of Madonna, apart from her Catholic roots, is her lack of musical pretension. She's a pop artist, not a "rock star." I loathe most rock criticism, as I loathe most of rock and roll, because of its absurd pretension to seriousness. Madonna isn't innocent here, of course. She has made her fair share of dumb-ass pronouncements in her time. But at her best, she is a pure pop performer. Her new album is the best she has ever done, in my opinion. You can't stop enjoying its shameless superficiality, its joyous rhythms, its '80s disco uplift. Yeah, I know this will look like a suck-up to my new hosts, but Time's Josh Tyrangiel gets it exactly right: Over a pulsing synthesizer, a ticking clock, a rumbling timpani and countless other perfectly calibrated whirs and beeps, Madonna declares, "I don't like cities, but I like New York/Other places make me feel like a dork." This is not the most ridiculous lyric ever uttered in a pop song--that remains "Yummy yummy yummy/I got love in my tummy." Still, it is awfully silly, and before you press on with the album, you will need to ask yourself, Am I a serious person who listens to music for intellectual enlightenment and makes it a point of pride not to dance under any circumstances? Or am I merely a semi-serious person who makes it a point not to be seen dancing under any circumstances? If you're the former, Confessions on a Dance Floor is not for you. If you're the latter, close the blinds.The DP and I have had the blinds closed for a while now. The groove goes on.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)
― ken taylrr never her (ken taylrr), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)
― Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)
"Her new album is the best she has ever done" is the new pink.
― Richj (Rich), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)
whatever
― Acid house girls and flowers (fandango), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)
― khkjh, Monday, 14 November 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
Barney Sumner just punched himself in the face because he only wishes he wrote that line.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)
That said, the new record is probably Madonna's most infectious start to finish record since her first, though with the exception of the "dork" lyric the words are largely lazy and banal self-empowerment tripe, full of mangled half-metaphors.
So, basically, Sullivan only about half OTM.
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)
― rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)
I can't stop enjoying the shameless superficiality, joyous rhythms, and '80s disco uplift of Madonna, Like a Virgin, and True Blue. Maybe if Confessions on a Dancefloor had a lot of more of these qualities and a lot less Kaballah/new age nonsense, it would be as good as those albums. The admittedly fabulous "Hung Up" and the "New York"/"dork" rhyme do not by themselves a classic pop album make.
― John Hunter, Monday, 14 November 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
thank god he left some wiggle room for weird al yankovic.
― michael crumsho (clikatowi), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)
Somehow manages to fit the tediousness of a bad 12" extended mix into a radio edit. Gold into shit.
― Acid house girls and flowers (fandango), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)
This would be true if she didn't keep emphasizing her lyrics (as in Confessions on a Dance Floor). Her very own, built-in "pretension to seriousness" is always fair game.
― Richj (Rich), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)
"That's why I called it Confessions on a Dance Floor," Madonna explains. "Most people equate dance music with being fluffy and superficial; it's just about having fun. That's fine, but I can't write 12 songs about nothing. My feelings or point of view inevitably sneaks in."
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2005-10-27-madonna_x.htm?POE=LIFISVA
― Richj (Rich), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)
― dumdum, Monday, 14 November 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)
― maria b (maria b), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)
That said, I like the record a lot. And Nine Inch Nails, for that matter. This boils down to the lyrics vs. music debate, which is to say (I guess like Alfred's "Star Wars" mention) that the words don't matter ass long as the special effects are cool.
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)
Now, she has morphed into a thick, hairy, masculinizedSKANKER-BIATCH, and her 'new songs', really reallysuck.
She used to be a cute feminine virgin, gosh how I missthe Madonna of yesteryear, BEFORE her estrogen levelsplummeted and her testosterone levels exploded.
― jibby, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)
Not figuring into his equation: serious people who like to dance to dance music.
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)
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― Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)
― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)
― ehbenoit, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)
She co-wrote "Live To Tell' with co-producer Patrick Leonard (still her best collaborator).
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)
what the fuck? what a freak.
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)
Was the album recorded in New York? If otherwise, then... Oh well, nevermind :)
Anyway, I consider this her best work in ages. Not her best work ever - that will be the perfect pop album that was "Like a Prayer", but certainly her best dance oriented effort. While the previous two albums found her a bit on the sideline of the electro revival, using a somewhat too eccentric producer, the new album finds her in the excact same musical landscape as Kylie Minogue or Annie, only better because she is such a great songwriter.
I was a bit sceptical upon hearing the way too sample-dependent "Hung Up"-single, but I absolutely love this new album, and luckily the samples (they do occur!) are less obvious in the other tracks. Certainly better than I expected!
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)
If you listen to "This Used To Be My Playground", co-written with Shep Pettibone, you clearly hear similarities in the way of building the tune with "Live To Tell" and the "Like a Prayer"-ballads, proving she has certainly had an important hand in the songwriting herself (and not only the lyrics, which were obviously her own, at least from "Papa Don't Preach" onwards)
Other than that, I agree that Patrick Leonard is her best songwriting collaborator, but at the same time, her possibly most boring producer. It worked greatly with the slower songs on "Like a Prayer", her least dance oriented album, but Leonard has never had a good hand with more dance oriented material. So, back in 1998, Leonard writing and William Orbit producing was a match made in heaven kind of.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)
To me, the new album sounds way more 80s than the latter two mentioned above.
That being said, to me, the 80s the way I loved them (analogue synths and "fake" drum machine sounds) ended around the release of "Like a Virgin" anyway :)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)
This is just not an image I want in my head.
― justsaying, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)
― Dan (WTF People????) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)
― shamus, Sunday, 27 November 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)
Not bloody likely. But it is a good album.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 27 November 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 28 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)