How you pronounce 'Baroque' ?

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Does it rhyme with 'oak' or with 'sock'?

moley (moley), Thursday, 17 November 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)

poke

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 17 November 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

Is this an American vs European thing? Like, a tomarto vs tomayto thing?

moley (moley), Thursday, 17 November 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

buh-ah-roh-cue

hostile java crips (dr g), Thursday, 17 November 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

wtf, it's spelled BarBque

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)

sock

gem (trisk), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

boo-urns.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)

barack obama

oh ilx my lionheart (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 November 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

Beo-rook

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 17 November 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

Rock. Unless you're referring to the Roy Harper album Flat Baroque and Berserk cos the joke doesn't work unless you say "Roke".

Le Marquis de Salade (noodle vague), Thursday, 17 November 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

bar-okay

gear (gear), Thursday, 17 November 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

beograde

oh ilx my lionheart (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 November 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

Rock - as it's French. While I'm at it, Latte ia pronounced lattay, not lahhhtay. Unfortunately, the scone issue is yet to be resolved. For the recrod, I'm a scone man (as opposed to sconn).

Jez (Jez), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

all up in yo' baroque ass!

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

"target" is "tar-ZHAY."

oh ilx my lionheart (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

that roy harper joke doesn't work whichever way you say it. it's not funny.

Snotty moore, Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

It's not funny, but it's a joke.

Le Marquis de Salade (noodle vague), Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

hats off to roy "can't tell a joke" harper

oh ilx my lionheart (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

It's a beautiful album though.

Le Marquis de Salade (noodle vague), Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

"Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger,
But she ain't messin' wit no Baroque, Baroque"

Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

in what godless, fallen world does 'baroque' possibly rhyme with 'oak'?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

in what godless, fallen world does 'baroque' possibly rhyme with 'oak'?

The U.S. of A.

Jacques Buried Her, Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?baroqu01.wav=baroque

ggggg, Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

The same world in which "masseuse" rhymes with "moose".

ledge (ledge), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Jesus wept.

Dan (At Least We Can Spell 'Aluminum') Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Rock - as it's French. While I'm at it, Latte ia pronounced lattay, not lahhhtay. Unfortunately, the scone issue is yet to be resolved. For the recrod, I'm a scone man (as opposed to sconn).

Latte - it's neither of those, but while we're on the subject it means 'milk', not 'milky coffee'. I'm with you on the scone thing, but we're an endangered minority, I fear.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

i have NEVER heard baroque to rhyme with rock.

petesmith (plsmith), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

What about "lingerie"? And isn't the French pronunciation of 'baroque' a bit softer than 'rock'?

duke of marlboro (mickeygraft), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Momus to thread!

k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008AY51.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

i don't know who these people are, but they exist.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Bury-okie.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

SCHTOPP!

This is just one of those British v American things. The French pronounce it one way, with an 'o' sound that doesn't exist in English. British people pronounce it with the same sound that they use in 'sock' and 'rock'. American people don't have that sound, so they don't pronounce the word 'sock' the same as British people, and they use the sound the sound from the way they pronounce 'oak' instead.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Must be a regional or international thing, I remember playing all kinds of Bach as a kid and never once heard "ba-rock." Just the oak version.

The brits still fuck up aluminum, though.

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

It's aluminium, alright?

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

I say 'bahroak' in English and something in between 'bahrock' and 'bahruck' in French.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Btw, re the latte thing. The idiotic tendency (at least in the states) to write 'latté' instead of 'lattè' drives me nuts. The pronunciation of most Italian (unlike, say, Freanch or English) is pretty straight forward. Even though most Americans don't end up eliding the double t into a 'd' sound, they end the word with an 'ay' sound when it should end with an 'eh' sound. {/pedantry}

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Another pedant responds: There is no accent in the word 'latte', your thinking of the word 'caffe' (which should have the downwards accent on the 'e', but I don't know how to do that), where the stress is on the second syllable, which is what the accent denotes.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Another pedant responds: There is no accent in the word 'latte', you're thinking of the word 'caffe' (which should have the downwards accent on the 'e', but I don't know how to do that), where the stress is on the second syllable, which is what the accent denotes.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Gah! How did that happen?

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

This is why I can't understand a thing Lady Sovereign says.

You've got to admit rhyming it with oak sounds much cooler than rhyming it with rock. Britons, repeat after me, ba-roak!

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

no, it sounds pretentious.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

This is just one of those British v American things. The French pronounce it one way, with an 'o' sound that doesn't exist in English.

OK - baghreukh, maybe ;-) ...and la-thé Heehee.

By the way, agreed re lingerie. Where did this lonjeray thing come from (as opposed to lanzh'riegh)?

Jez (Jez), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

I had no idea Britishes pronounced it funny. So you don't have the "if it ain't baroque, don't fix it" joke?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

they got nothing now but what we let them have

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

my fave pronunciation of lingerie is 'leeng-er-ee'

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

no, it sounds pretentious.
-- Theorry Henry (miltonpinsk...), November 17th, 2005.

Well, considering the definition of the word "baroque", pretentious is the appropriate route here.

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

The brits still fuck up aluminum, though

From aluNET
"In 1761 de Morveau proposed the name "alumine" for the base in alum. Later yet, in 1807, Davy proposed the name alumium for the metal, undiscovered at that time, and later agreed to change it to aluminum.

Shortly thereafter, the name aluminium was adopted by IUPAC [International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry, the world authority on chemical nomenclature, terminology, standardized methods for measurement, atomic weights and other critically evaluated data.] to conform with the "ium" ending of most elements. Aluminium is the IUPAC spelling and therefore the international standard.

Aluminium was also the accepted spelling in the U.S.A. until 1925, at which time the American Chemical Society decided to revert back to aluminum."

Why? And did they expect the rest of the world to say, "Wow! The US has unilaterally changed the spelling of the third most abundant element in the earth's crust! To the way it was spelt over a hundred years ago! How modern! We must do the same!"?

chris j (chris j), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Maybe everyone in the US was still pronouncing it aluminum, as that was probably the common pronunciation by that point. Who knows? I don't have a copy of the OED handy but I would bet it has a good story about it.

"Bah-rock and roll" versus "If it's not ba-rohk, don't fix it!"

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Actually, that aluNET site has some hints on the aluminum versus aluminium fight. The first person/company to actually refine the metal on a large scale (it was rare!) was in the US and he started a company named "Aluminum Company of America." I can imagine how it was marketed... there's your answer, fishbulb.

mike h. (mike h.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=baroque

NOTE PRONUNCIATION KEY

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 18 November 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

There's certain things that people in other zip codes near me pronounce differently, so why the fuck people get their panties in a bind when people on other continents pronounce things differently is beyond me.

oops (Oops), Friday, 18 November 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Surely you mean "knickers in a twist"?

Arthur Blog, Friday, 18 November 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

nappies in a bunch surely

mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 18 November 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Yeesh. Can soda vs pop vs coke be far behind now?

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

Can soda vs pop vs coke be far behind now?

Oh, you mean "ginger" do you?

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

Juice

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

I typed "if it ain't baroque, don't fix it" before I noticed jaymc

RJG (RJG), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
i hate you all! all i wanted to know is how to pronounce baroque then i get all this rock oak crap. and do americans say "alu-min-yum" or "alu-min-ee-um" or "alu-min-um". coz all but the first one sound stupid

aussie me, Monday, 29 May 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

"alu-min-um"

Marmotdeth (marmotwolof), Monday, 29 May 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

I never got my head 'round Robbie Nevil singing "say la vie" back in 1986.

JoB (JoB), Monday, 29 May 2006 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

i have NEVER heard baroque to rhyme with rock.

Momus to thread!

Yeah, he pronounces baroque this way in "Walter Carlos", rhyming it with "epoch".

Marmotdeth (marmotwolof), Monday, 29 May 2006 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

The way Brits say "yogurt" and "oregano" is the best.

Steve Goldberg (Steve Goldberg), Monday, 29 May 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)


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