Jess Harvell was wrong post-punk reissue situation is not just scraping the barrel good new Instant Automatons collection out on hyped2death and Delta 5 collection on Kill Rock Stars

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― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

hold grudges much?

― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

you're a weird one, tim

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

"Zulu" by Wrangler Brutes is the first album on Kill Rock Stars i've bought in years.

― ELLI$, Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

I like how the thread title is essentially a spam message.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Je$$ Harvell was wrong Xtian Singles like gett1ng fucked in sw33t ass

― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

M1LF HUNNIEZ GET INC3ST FOR FR333!11!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

intended more as a "funny" than a "grudge"

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

If someone tells a joke based on a months-old grudge-thread, and no one gets it, is it funny?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

I roffled at myself

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Feel th1s h3at in the deltas of hot gilfs RU ready?

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

DETROIT: POST-ROCK CITY

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

http://img.epinions.com/images/newworld/3192/101156-music-resized200.JPG

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

what was the grudge again?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

something about A Certain Slap Bass. I forget.

― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

jess fucked his daughter. they made a movie about it with bernie mac and guy from that 70s show.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

the one where his dad does coke lines off his pussy?

― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

i think you're thinking of jungle fever

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

you guys!

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

what did jess say about the delta 5 reissue?

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

he said they should stay in the kitchen where they belong

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

and if he could have a taste of their ice cream

― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

(maria, there's a long dead thread here about an article jess wrote on an ACR reissue that wasn't totally favorable that got howls here.. i think it was months ago, but it seems like years)

― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

you think I'm funny? like I'm here to amuse you?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

anyway, valid points and lots of unnecessary bickering made on said thread after it all on both sides.

ellisonbro revives long dead joke at jess's expense by starting a thread on delta 5 and some instant somethings reissue because they are keeping post punk alive i guess.

― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Instant Automatons are interesting, not something that I'd say warrants tons of repeated listens. But I don't get any talk about keeping post-punk alive. There will always be people interested in it, sometimes more, sometimes less, like any other kind of music. It was only the contested parts of Jess's ACR review that claimed otherwise.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

here's the original thread, maria. You posted on it!

In defense of digging obscure post-punk bands (still!) re: ACR in Pitchfork

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

I am sorry to have REVIVED THE JOKE AT JESS' EXPENSE. : (

xp - Instant Automatons were grebt.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

(Dan, I'm oversarcasticizing out today. Never mind me.)

― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

i will say that i will probably pick up the delta 5 comp, even though i've already heard a large chunk of it.

yeah b, chill. i am not offended by tim's roffles in any way.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

see, i didn't think you were jess. i thought "strongo hulkington's ghost" was a regular from the noize board incognito.

wait..

oh snap!

― do knut (donut), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

lot of 'ilx is crazy' here

― 'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

CRAZY IN LUV

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

don't talk to me, freak

― 'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

"Who's the biggest Captain-Save-A-Strongo on ILX?"

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

[CONTROVERSIAL MOD "Don't Be A Fucknut, Fucknut" EDIT.]

― BigCocks, Thursday, 17 November 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

And so on.

― Dan (We Should Parse BBCode) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

(XPOST BOO HISS)

― Dan (Now My Post Makes No Sense WAAAAH) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

haha

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

NEW MATERIAL PLEEZE!

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 17 November 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

sorry, i have forgotten how to laugh.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 17 November 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

well you're old. happens.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

dan selzer, you cant expect me to remember every thread i post on.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

but it was MY thread!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 18 November 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)

am i misremembering or did the liner notes to krs' liliput/kleenex rerelease go on forever about how unique they were? (this is slightly related to the thread.)

― Dan Gr (certain), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I've never seen them, but want to point out that the Liliput CD originally came out on Off Course through Rec Rec or some swiss company a few years before KRS, and I always thought KRS just licensed it/re-packaged it for US consumption, so any packaging may date from the original release. Which, was a pretty big deal for those of us who like the stuff, I remember a friend in college ordering the relatively expensive collection from europe back then. That had to be 96, maybe 97, so the original CD came out some point in the 90s. The KRS release was 2001.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

i was just wondering if that's the origin of the praise i always see about them and their uniqueness (which i always find funny, since, well, a dime a dozen on that sound).

― Dan Gr (certain), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

as i recall, when the off course collection was released christgau
wrote a long appreciation in the voice, although all i could find on
his site was the blurb from the consumer guide. that article was what
got me interested and i imagine many others too.

― bz (bryan zuraw), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

I don't agree that Kleenex were of the "dime a dozen" sort. Who are the other eleven in their dozen?

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

the ronnettes
xenakis
christina aguliera
killswitch engage
mel & kim
little feat
the shaggs
808 state
the wiggles
cool breeze
hildegaard von bingen

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Doop!

Wasn't the Greil Marcus essay originally published in the original Euro pressing of the two-disc KleePut thing? Also, I think the original pressing came out specifically around 1993 - I remember it receiving much love in the Spin Alt. Guide.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

off the top of my head:

Ã¶stro 430
hans-a-plast
malaria
nichts
the petticoats (maybe that's a stretch)

of course a lot of these bands share members with liliput.

― Dan Gr (certain), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I've only heard Malaria out of those. Did they have songs as knockout as stuff like "Ain't You?"

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

well, nichts has "radio" which is like a cross between the kleenex sound and the ramones, and is really great.

Ã¶stro 430 sound exactly like kleenex (shared singer i think), recommend 'plastikwelt' for the playfulness that abounds in kleenex.

hans-a-plast, ditto, much better song-writing than Ã¶stro430 though, plus the saxophone. 'reicher vati' is the key track, if you listened to their s/t lp you'd think you were hearing kleenex/liliput. basically true of their other releases too.

― Dan Gr (certain), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

comparing Malaria! to Kleenex is a total stretch. The Petticoats not so much, but really it's just that song Normal. There's some cool later Petticoats stuff thats more electronic.

But I also imagine when that stuff was getting reissued, the world wasn't aware of all kinds of obscure NDW and Swiss punk bands.

You could cherry-pick a few other punky female bands, Can't Be Funky by the Bush Tetras could be a kleenex song, Delta 5 etc, but Liliput stands out and has their own sound, and I wouldn't be so hard on people calling them unique 10 years ago!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

that's the thing a lot of these bands aren't obscure at all. i suppose for a british record buying public years ago, yeah. but really the only difference between say hans-a-plast and kleenex is that one was on rough trade and one was on a german label. it's not like you have to pay collector's prices for hans-a-plast records (like you do with kleenex).

plus it's not cherry picking albums. if you played hans-a-plast for someone who hadn't heard them before but knows every kleenex song by heart, they would think it was lost kleenex material.

― Dan Gr (certain), Saturday, 19 November 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry, but BOTH those bands are STILL obscure! And don't underestimate the impact on the UK record buying public, as well as America and everywhere else in the world that being picked up by Rough Trade at that time would have and continues to have. If hans-a-plast is so similar and just as good, it'd be a good cause to promote them to Kleenex fans worldwide, which still only number in the dozens!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 19 November 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

Is that Delta 5 comp. still on-track for January release Dan?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Saturday, 19 November 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

I dunno...Maria?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 19 November 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

what vacuum have people been living in that they haven't heard KLEENEX? my vote for most obvious band ever.

i'd imagine that every single person in 1979 heard HANS-A-PLAST and thought they sounded just like kleenex and therefore didn't care.

― Dan Gu (uncannydan), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

it's an uncanny land, Dan
(german for "un-home-like" like your mommy's pussy-cave)

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

i concur on the obviousness of kleenex, but i'd actually say that hans-a-plast may be more well known in germany. and more cared about. this idea that kleenex are somehow inately better and more important is an anglo thing.

how does uncanny in anyway resemble the german word for un-home-like. jo momma, dude, jo'momma.

― Dan Gr (certain), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

what vacuum have people been living in that they haven't heard KLEENEX?

Who are they? Are they as good as the Cars?

― disco violence (disco violence), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

*Walks into record store*

"Got any Kleenex?"

"No, but there's some toilet paper in the back if ya need some."

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

material tissue

― dali madison's nut (donut), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

there, two awful awful jokes should kill this thread dead for good

― dali madison's nut (donut), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

Well, people COULD use this thread to talk about Delta 5 or the Instant Automatons if they would like to, mister.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

or Kleenex or whatever ...

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

We could also post pictures of banana octopus rabbits:

http://www.kidrobot.com/images/specimages/s-bnywt-1.jpg

― dali madison's nut (donut), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't trying to be pedantic or anything.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)

So, I think the interesting thing about this reissue (the D5) is that it just totally leaves out the LP. I like that album quite a bit, actually, although it doesn't really sound like the same band. Looking forward to hearing the alternate version stuff, but it's a hard sell when I already have everything except the "Try" 7" which I sold.

― sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

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