Hip-hop, hip hop or hiphop?

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which is the correct way? Thanks.

― moley (moley), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)

I believe hip-hop is the most common form.

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

I think the second is also acceptable. I've never seen the third until now.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

Thanks

― moley (moley), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

RAP

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

does it matter? we all know what you're talking about

― splates (splates), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

ILM hip-hop threads in 2005

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How do you spell it?!

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

It's actually for an official handbook, so, convention, style and all that.

― moley (moley), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

oh, then hip-hop i guess

― splates (splates), Friday, 18 November 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

KRS argues pretty vehemently against the hyphen. I don't remember his reasoning.

― Robert L Bell (Robert L Bell), Friday, 18 November 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

KRS argues pretty vehemently against pretty much everything.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 18 November 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

Hip-hop-the-hippie-the-hippie-to-the-hip-hip-hop.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 18 November 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

Village Voice style is pretty much "'hip-hop' unless you're Greg Tate." I don't know what Tate's reasoning is, aesthetical or syntactical.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 18 November 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

The Wire says HipHop, but they're caps maniacs, so. (Also maybe not what I'd call the obv reference for this music anyway.)

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Friday, 18 November 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

they're WEIRD caps maniacs--they just apply them willy-nilly, God knows why. I can just imagine the edit meetings: "No, Metal is capitalized but blues isn't." "Why?" "Just do it."

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 18 November 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

Do the Wire do it throughout, though, or just on the header for Dave Tompkins review columns (ie design decision rather than style guide)?

― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 18 November 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

As a lazy fuck, I type hiphop because it has the fewest keystrokes.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Am I the only one who writes rap when talking about the music, and hip hop when talking about the culture?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

no, everybody does that, because it's the most logical thing in the world.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

So you use "rap" when talking about hip-hop without vocals, eh?

― Josh Witkowski (braineater), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

it's either hip hop or hip-hop. both spellings are right.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

check AP or Chicago Manuals

― ken taylrr never her (ken taylrr), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

We settled on hip-hop. I didn't go looking for KRS-1's argument against the hyphen. Does anyone have a link? I need some edutainment.

― moley, Friday, 18 November 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

I've never put a hyphen between hip and hop and didn't realize that so many people do!

― Al (sitcom), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

KRS at his most magisterial, from an essay he wrote called "The Refinitions." Behold:

In its true essence, Hiphop cannot be (and should not be) interpreted or described fully in words. It is a feeling. An awareness.
1 Intellectually, it is an alternative behavior that enables one to transform subjects and objects in an attempt to describe and/or change the character and desires of ones being.
2 Hiphop is a unique inner-city awareness that enhances ones ability to self-create. It is a "sight."
3 In the past Hiphop was spelled "hip-hop." True Hiphoppas are advised to spell Hiphop with a capital "H," as it is the name of our collective consciousness and our kulture.
4 Hiphop, spelled "hip-hop," means (hip) trendy, (hop) jump or dance. We are not just a "trendy dance" however, those that spell Hiphop like this (hip-hop) usually approaches Hiphop like a trendy dance or music.
5 In addition, Hiphop's kultural unity is established by spelling Hiphop as one word, "Hiphop," unless the term "Hiphop" is being displayed as art or in public advertisement.
6 Those that spell Hiphop, "hip-hop" are undermining Hiphop's kultural unity and demeaning the importance of what Hiphop really is.
7 Know this. Hiphop spelled "Hiphop," is not only the code for writers that participate in Hiphop's preservation, generally it is a matter of respect!

― Robert L Bell (Robert L Bell), Saturday, 19 November 2005 03:30 (twenty years ago)

Boombap

― amon (eman), Saturday, 19 November 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

e-mail, e mail, email

― M. V. (M.V.), Saturday, 19 November 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

Shit, KRS-1 makes total sense. I'm going to need to revise our handbook.

― moley, Saturday, 19 November 2005 06:23 (twenty years ago)

Don't forget to correct any non-incidences of the word "kultural" as well.

― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 19 November 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Yeah Matos the Wire caps rules seem pretty strange – I think I've mentioned reading about someone who worked in "jazz and Improv" here once.

Haha KRS on Hiphop kulture reads almost like G P-Orridge on the meaning ov Magick or something: Intellectually, it is an alternative behavior that enables one to transform subjects and objects in an attempt to describe and/or change the character and desires of ones being.

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Saturday, 19 November 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

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