soul jazz's new york noise 2 comp

Glorious Strangers was a post-Branca project of Wharton Tiers: http://www.whartontiers.com/bio.html

No luck on Clandestine.

Gallery, of course.

On the other hand, I think these Soul Jazz comps also save us a lot of money and time by sifting to find the gold from the dirt, so to speak, when it comes to certain artists as well.

Anyhoo, Dusty Groove says this comes out around January 16, 2006, Soul Jazz's web site says nothing. Whatever happened to that early hip hop comp they were releasing this fall?

" La voix de Parker Dulany...une splendeur..."
Rocksound (Janvier 2001)

" Le nouvel album d'un groupe culte"
Le Nouvel Observateur (Décembre 2000)

"Groupe culte qui a su adapter avec brio les climats ombrageux de la cold wave à une forme d'écriture et à des références typiquement américaines"
Le Monde / Aden (Décembre 2000)

"L'Amérique de Faulkner et Jarmusch"
Télérama (Décembre 2000)

"Un genre unique de post-country urbaine, littéraire et quasi gothique, soutenue d'une sombre tension digne d'un axe majeur qu'on dresserait du Nick Cave le plus spirituellement illuminé à REM jusqu'à Ian Curtis ."
Nova Magazine (Décembre 2000)

"Ne les manquez pas"
L'Evénement (Décembre 2000)

"Un groupe insubmersible"
Libération (Décembre 2000).

Destroy All Monsters.

(This could be a fun thread to think about, actually).

Glorious Strangers was fronted by Wharton's wife. Some of it is a bit blondie/patti smith vocals, while some is more post-no wave new wave, maybe not far from something like the Theoretical Girls single or another great often forgotten Tiers-related project, A Band, who's No Love appears on one of the early Homework comps.

Certain General I believe recently reformed and played at a Danceteria reunion party in NYC.

D.A.M.
Sonic's Rendezvous Band
Cult Heroes
Flirt
R.U.R.
Cinecyde
A*Moms
Sillies
Ramrods
Mutants
the 27
Nikki & the Corvettes
Xanadu
The Same Band
Gang War

Wasn't movie director Jim Jarmusch once in the Del Byzanteens?

altho my favorite song by them is "the devil lives in my husband's body"

http://imdb.com/name/nm0005174/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9YW5uIG1hZ251c29ufGZ0PTF8bXg9MjB8bG09NTAwfGNvPTF8aHRtbD0xfG5tPTE_;fc=1;ft=20

looks like her first feature role was the no-wave indie Vortex by Scott and Beth B, who's soundtrack features Adele Bertai, Richard Edson, Lydia Lunch and others and is highly highly recommended by me.

Jim Jarmusch was in the Del Byzanteens but word is he doesn't like to talk about it so much.

The only problem with The New Thing! is its thesis is fucked when using the artists/songs they used. If they had marketed it as "Universal Sounds of America 2" nobody would be complaining. As it is, the album came across more as an excuse to plug the three single artist reissues SJ put out by lumping them with Sun Ra, Art Ensemble and Archie Shepp.

And do we really need any rhys chatham, don king, y pants or the likes of arthur russell on there when they've had the odd disc being issued?!

Yes, because it contextualises/allows for music by Pulsallama, Clandestine, Red Transistor, Certain General, Glorious Strangers, Del Byzantines and Jill Kroesen to get to the public who probably will buy this comp for the "stars" (although a single compilation of Rudolph Grey/Red Transistor stuff would be nice).

fair enough on r.grey -- I'm tinking something along the lines of a 2CD overview of ray russell's "live at the ICA" but including that red transistor material might be a problem. They have been issued on a 7" before (and the two tracks on that is all that seems to be available), and maybe that could be made onto a separate CD. Blue humans "Clear to higher time (live)" CD clocked in at a mere 11 mins!

That was a sort of CD-single thing. There was an album called Clear to Higher Time with five tracks (four tracks on the first side and a nineteen minute version of "Clear to Higher Time" on the second side).

A 2CD noise fest would be possible for instance, but you'd have to track down and get the rights to all those songs. That's a lot of work as they're probably owned by the artists.

Don, this is what Alan Licht, in his sleevenotes to "live at the ICA/retrospective", had to say: Why is it that Jimi Hendrix had a whammy bar, a wah wah pedal, and distortion boxes and still never achieved the sounds that Russell gets with the same equipment on "stained angel morning"? Really, this stuff reminds me more of Slayer than Mahavishnu Orchestra. And I'm like: what about '1983' on "Electric Ladyland"? Ok, its not the same context, but the ideas of what to do with gadgetry are kind of THERE. Besides, its not like Hendrix ever surrounded himself w/the same kind of people to push his music in that direction.

Anyway: Russell had this take on the guitar which ws a halfway house of Sharrock and Hendrix. There's something quite light about his touch on the guitar strings, very spidery, and he'd fludly connect fingerplay to speaker fuzz and ends up sounding effortless; but also done with a skilled ear, he knew when to come in, so in that respect its v sharrockian. There are themes ("stained angle morning" is THE cut from teh ICA set and this one ends on a two-note riff, I remember it thinking it was all free improv until that point).

"Live at the ICA" ('71) is followed by a track played by another one his groups from '78, where you have a synthesizer and the whole thing comes off rather tentative at times. I ws thinking of Frank Zappa on his 'guitar' album, the tone of the guitar has changed a bit. The synth sounds a bit horrible and wrong and I'm just thinking "its over". And I don't think there's much more from him by the 80s, but I could be wrong.

(I also did a thread on him a long while ago but the search has had it for now.)

Tim I know abt the other album the studio rec "clear to higher time". I ws just saying that maybe the red transistor material, which adds to abt 10 mins, oughta have its own CD single thing like 'clear to higher time (live)' to be more widely available perharps? i've never seen that 7".

http://banananutrament.blogspot.com/2005/10/noise-fest-part-1-of-3-this-past.html

hope this ones better.

http://www.souljazzrecords.co.uk/releases/?id=7965

...and used to great effect on Erol Alkan's Bugged In mix album.

Yeah that's the one I was talking about :)

I thought from what was said pre-release it was gonna be 'dancier'.

Ike Yard so so dull, but they work much better in the context of this comp than on their own collected works CD.

I'd love a harmelodic NYC funk comp w/more Ulmer, Defunkt et al

and as originally brought to internet attention by Woebot a while back

Actually I haven't heard it yet.

Sadly I suspect that all the "dancier" no wave noise/post-punk tracks have already been thoroughly anthologised so it's very much a case of picking up the leftovers.

There's still a ton of great stuff out there. Some on it's way and some that'll probably never get reissued due to legal issues.

it happened more or less the same here: I found him happily bouncing on our bed while the cd was playing.

I think it sounds cool.

where I can find more "dancier" songs

You have A Certain Ratio records right?

Andrew Weatherall's 9 O'clock Drop helped kick-start a lot of this revival of interest:
http://www.discogs.com/release/36197

other out of print comps I'd recommend include Fruit of the Original Sin, which was the first place to find Marine's Animal Inside My Head, Peripheral Vision, the Elliot Sharp produced post-no-wave comp with really cool tracks from V-Effect and the Ordinaires (a really funky one from the Ordinaires, believe it or not), Wanna Buy a Bridge, Hicks from the Sticks, the Cherry Red Seeds series (the "art" volume has a very obscure not-disco track called Shoot to Kill by the Dragees).

Anyway, a lot of this isn't on CD yet, but who knows what the future holds?

And on the flipside, you can start looking at Disco comps like the Perfect Beats, Disco Spectrum, the P+P music comps, some of which have some stuff that's pretty "not" disco as well. Exodus's Together Forever, maybe the best dance song ever, is on both volume 2 of the Perfect Beats and on the CD of Disco Spectrum 1.

Mike, I'd probably not post on it at all! I'm trying to hold my cards a bit closer to the chest these days, if I'm ever going to reissue something that hasn't already been bootlegged or mp3 blogged or file-shared to death!

babe ruth - the mexican
mae - artefact
can - I want more
dance - do dada
public image ltd - this is not a love song
23 skidoo - last words

!

Dr. Alicia's use of the word 'dub' in her post on Ike Yard made me approach IY a different way. Maybe I see what they're doing now.

huh? who is reissuing this? LTM? that's an amazing compilation.

Nervous Gender
Screamers
Factrix
Boyd Rice
Monte Cazzaza
Non
LAFMS
Residents

And someone re-issue Factrix please. What little I've heard has been very good.

Oh, and Factrix have been reissued on a double CD about 4 years ago
: http://www.discogs.com/release/231390
what is really needed is a reissue/comp of Saqqara Dogs