Where is the Love For All These Bands from my "A" CD Shelves Who Don't Get Mentioned Nearly Enough on ILM?

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acid king
kay adams
trace adkins (though all i care about his his "i'm tryin'" single)
after forever
age of silence
ajax
the almighty
alpha
a.l.t. and the lost civilization
amebix
american minor
anacrusis
anathema
bruce anderson
jessica andrews
android lust
anema
angel in heavy syrup
antarctica
antimatter
any trouble
apex theory
apotygma berzerk
appliance
appolonyan sun
sergio arau
archimedes badkar
arling & cameron
artificial joy club
asa cruz
ashes to ashes
a split second
assembly of dust
asunder
a thousand times yes
rodney atkins
the nancy atlas project
atomic swindlers
at war with self
renee austin
avarus
awesome color

(and maybe i should include muhal richard abrams, terry allen, aqui, atomic rooster, and the avengers, too. or maybe not.)

xhuxk, Monday, 21 November 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Damn. The only ones I can claim knowledge of there are the Almighty and Anacrusis, but am hard-pressed to even give any credible details about either.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

I think I know Jessica Andrews.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

any trouble

I have their first 'indie' single "Yesterday's Love", where they 'did an elvis costello' to get on, then slowly went back to being folk club stalwarts, right?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Chuck -- I thought I read in an interview, maybe rockcritics.com, that you only kept like 400 CDs around and got rid of the rest. Am I remembering wrong or was that someone else?

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

No, Mark, that was then and this is now; stuff tends to accumulate over time. (Actually, I have no idea if 400 was ever an accurate number; that interview was years ago, but the number still seems way small. But I really *still* only keep a fraction of the CDs that come my way. And I prune my collection at least once a year, on average, I'd say. Which, given how many I do keep, obviously means a *lot* of CDs come my way. The ones listed above are just the ones in my living room right now! I have plenty more in storage in Pennsylvania.)

The Any Trouble best of CD I have is way more "pub rock" than "folk," I'd say.

xhuxk, Monday, 21 November 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Terry Allen was in my dream two nights ago. Not him, but I dreamt about "Lubbock (on everything)" - don't ask, I think I was telling someone about it or listening to it. Either way, that's love.

TRG (TRG), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

muhal richard abrams and the avengers are both excellent, but you didnt really ask about them...

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Surely there's some Finnish weird-out thread covering Avarus, Kemialliset Ystavat etc? (I didn't check, but surely!) I've got some some stuff by the individuals (Kuupuu, Lau Nau, KY, Keijo(Avarus???), Es) etc. but no actual Avarus. That Tumult comp seemed the obvious choice, but it's always expensive.

I've got Angel In Heavy Syrup IV. Great stuff! Which of the rest are best?

Mestema (davidcorp), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

IV is the only one I've ever seen, Mestema. It's totally great. (Plus, it came out on Monotremata Records, which is the best record label name ever, since it includes both platypuses AND echidnas!)

xhuxk, Monday, 21 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

I saw Any Trouble live a couple of times, maybe even three. At a free concert in the Vondelpark, Amsterdam, in August 1980, I saw them performing a cover of Abba's "The Name Of The Game", in Joe Jackson/early Costello style. It was the first time that I realised what a great song that is.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Which Bruce Anderson have you got Xhuxk, Brutality?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Acid King are definitely an acquired taste -- but I'm often in the mood for them. Sluggish even by stoner rock standards, which works for them because the guitar and voice belong to a girl, lending something different. They turn covers of Motorhead and BTO (weirdest version of "Not Fragile" I've ever heard) into art-band stuff. Could be by accident since I saw them live and they weren't having a very good night. I like Busse Woods a bit more than III which came out in the summer.

Atomic Swindlers, you know I like 'em. No idea why more people don't. They're legitimately glam, have a good singer who looks tremendous. And their album is still one of the best pieces of production I've heard this year. Plus, the video is amusing art anime lesbo biker weird stuff.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 21 November 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

I'll give some love to Amebix. Some former members play as Iowaska now and they did a gig at my house - great thundering sheets of bliss, like a peace-punk version of Crash Worship.

sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

Aqui -- never liked that. Just an oddball math metal band from NYC. Didn't rock.

Atomic Rooster, one of my favorites of all time. If stoner rock brands developed brains, added a good Hammond player and emulated some of Vincent Crane's moves, they'd reinvigorate the genre. The man owned the mix of mental illness, suicide and hard rock. Currently my favorites are when Crane picked up Chris Farlowe, a soul-belter, for Made In England and Nice 'n' Greasy. The latter is particularly choice, combining Crane-ism, hard rock and a singer imitating James Brown.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 21 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

>Which Bruce Anderson have you got Xhuxk, Brutality? <

*Strict.* (I used to own *Brutality* on cassette, along with all those old O-Type and Half-Life and Gizzards {is that what they were called?} tapes, but they're all long long gone.)

xhuxk, Monday, 21 November 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Appliance are great. If Stereolab's music had evolved to sound like them after 1999 or so, then I'd still be buying their albums.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

i've really only heard A Split Second ('rigor mortis' is a classic) and i have one 'Ajax' EP. i've mostly ignored my industrial-leaning stuff over the years...

ooh, i have a couple 'antarctica' CDs which are good.
'arling & cameron'? pants.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

the same djs who played stereolab and turn on and maybe pizzicato five and maybe even adventures in stereo in the late '90s played that first arling and cameron record, all in, and it was kinda ok in that dancey loungey way, if memory serves. i remember not liking their second record at all, but i might not have given it any chance.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, A Split Second's "Rigor Mortis" is a good one.

Edward Bax (EdBax), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

*All In* was the A&C one I liked a lot (though I also heard later stuff that wasn't bad). I had no idea people hated it (or them) so much! Anyway, here's what Frank Kogan wrote about it way back when:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0009,kogan,12869,22.html

I should probably get rid of that Aqui CD, the more I think about it.

xhuxk, Monday, 21 November 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

I really wish I played that Bruce Anderson stuff more often - especially since I've called the guy "the most sonically riveting guitarist on the planet", which he IS, at least in the context of MX-80. But his playing is so naturally dissonant and tritone-laden that I find his solo recordings (consisting of three or more overdubbed parts) kinda harsh - too claustrophobic to be as easily enjoyed as something like Sonny Sharrock's Guitar, to name the most obvious comparison.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

I stumbled across that Trace Adkins song when it came out and was completely in love with it, played it solid for months. Is the rest of his stuff not up to that standard or d'you just happen not to have it, chuck?

THIS IS THE SOUND OF ALTERN 8 !!! (noodle vague), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

There's a fair amount of Apoptygma Berserk love at ILM, and rightfully so...

Haven't seen any mention of the new album, however. Based on what I've read about it, I'm expecting a step in the direction of nu-metal, which I'm not sure I'll like.

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Oddly, beyond "I'm Tryin'", which is one of the saddest, sparest, most graceful country (and divorce) (and divorced dad) songs of this decade if not ever, Trace tends to be a great big oaf with a truly annoying ponytail. Go figure. (Though I suppose his honkytonk badonkadonk one is kinda amusing if you want it to be.)

xhuxk, Monday, 21 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

I recently got rid of both my Amebix CD and my Anacrusis CD, neither of which will be missed

Tony Bleach (blackshoeswhitesocks), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

I recently sold both my Amebix CD and my Anacrusis CD. I remember nothing about the latter, but I do remember liking the former.

Tony Bleach (blackshoeswhitesocks), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

Impatience = mistakes.

Tony Bleach (blackshoeswhitesocks), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

anacrusis

known to to guided by voices fans as the dayton hard rock band in which robert pollard and mitch mitchell first played together. but i assume xhuxk has the other anacrusis sitting on his A shelf. why robert pollard didn't eventually form a band called "angel in heavy syrup" is a mystery for the ages.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

The 2 Bruce Anderson albums I have (Brutality and Balkana) are really great, droney guitar records. Pretty different to MX-80 obviously, but he's a very underrated guitarist I think. Haven't heard Strict though.

Sold the first Angel In Heavy Syrup, just sounded like lame psych to me.

Can't say I've heard any of the others, apart from occasionally enduring Almighty videos on some late night metal show that was on UK tv a few years back.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Are Arling and Cameron the ones that wrote "soundtracks" for non-existant films? If so, I remember getting a promo for them, thinking it was OK, and giving it to a freelancer that never wrote a damn thing...

js (honestengine), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

Was this the Ajax that did "Ex-Junkie"? I really like that single ("Ex-junkie! Born-again Christian! Didn't have a! Didn't have a clue!") & have never heard anything else by them.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

any trouble

I have their first 'indie' single "Yesterday's Love", where they 'did an elvis costello' to get on, then slowly went back to being folk club stalwarts, right?

Indeed, Any Trouble Costello lookalike Clive Gregson is viewed by some as a kind of new-wave Richard Thompson though he isn't anywhere as good as that.

Alpha are Massive Attack type trip-hop though rather more cinematic in nature. Jarvis Cocker features on one of the albums they did. High end dinner party music, rather good with a glass of sauvignon blanc.

Almighty were a Glaswegian metal band, not especially memorable.

I've got an Appliance cd which I've only ever listened to once, must dig it out and give it a second chance based on MindinRewinds praise.

Haven't heard of anyone else, I hope the B's are more inspiring.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

yes - that ajax. the ep i have includes that song. but i think ajax is a "she", not a "them' (there is only a she on the CD EP cover).

yes - that arling and cameron (see kogan link above)

no - not that anacrusis. these are voivodoid metal guys.

xhuxk, Monday, 21 November 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

I thought ilx was the ONLY place that talks about Avarus.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

Also, Aqui R.I.P.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

here's another no for Aqui

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

The first A & C is the one to get: psych-lounge that expanded through brain/soul/body annex; the secondd seemed to have Second Album Syndrome, except "Born In July," which made my P&J Singles (xpost Maybe your freelancer read what Frank wrote about the first, then was too let down by the second to write a damn thing? Although he should have written about "Born In July"!) Asa Cruz I couldn't get into, Ashes To Ashes I couldn't (or didn't) stay with, past auspicious initial tracks on both discs they sent me.(Thanks anyway, guys.)I'll have to check Nancy Atlas Project, which is about the only NYC countryoid band xxhuxx could muster any enthusiasm for, and then only when pressed.Atomic Rooster, yeah. Angel In Heavy Syrup is one of the best names I've heard today. Are they a Scott Walker tribute band?

don, Monday, 21 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

Um, shouldn't A Split Second and A Thousand Times Yes be alphabetized under S and T, respectively? Or do you also have a huge number of bands filed under "the"?

J.D. Considine, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe you have an A.L.T. and the Lost Civilization CD. That song "Tequila" was one of the worst 90s novelties ...

Antartica, on the other hand, were nice enough. I wish they'd stuck around for more than an EP and an album.

Dare (Dare), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure I've ever heard a Terry Allen song, but I went to an art show of his at the Santa Monica Museum of Art and it was pretty good. He had constructed a few tableaus representing home (bedroom, kitchen, study, etc). I'd bet he's the musician with the most success in the fine art world.

Perfect Sound Forever has an interview.

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

"Tequila" was great! (And the rest of the album is really good, too.)

And JD, I file "A" bands via the A Flock of Seagulls rule. (Doesn't Xgau do that in the Consumer Guide, too? Not positive, but I think so. And yes, Los Fabulosos Cadillacs are in the L's, not the F's. So sue me.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

> after forever
> arling & cameron

wow. two dutch bands!
a & c are nice. apparently working on a new album now, cameron is living in berlin, involved in a lot of projects including terrorgruppe schwarzenraben and cowgum, he also made a rather laidback and not very good solo-album last year. more info here: http://www.mrandmrscameron.com.
after forever are one of those godawful gothicmetal bands. we seem to have zillions of them. big in brazil apparently. or was that the gathering? or epica? or etc...

(jg) ((jg)), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

JoJo Hiroshige from Hijokaidan produced the earlier (if not later) Angel In Heavy Syrup, and the one girl is in Christine 23 Onna with Masonna. Admittedly, on first listen to IV I thought their schtick was just retro-styled canned psych, but on repeated listens it's super creamy stuff. Really evocative guitar sounds. Almost like a blowout RPG soundtrack in places! (in a good way!)

Mestema (davidcorp), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

I just wanted to be the first to spell Apoptygma Berzerk correctly on this thread. I've got his first 12" somewhere, I believe.

Hm Appliance, I've got a CD of them as well. Will give it a spin.

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

"Doesn't Xgau do that in the Consumer Guide, too?"

Actually, he puts them under "F." But Los Fabulosos Cadillacs under "L" is fair enough; I think the rule about ignoring direct and indirect articles only applies for English words.

J.D. Considine, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

i never know what to do with these threads, but amebix were kings. and i really want to hear iowaska, even though crashworship suuucked and comparisons to them scare me.

i'd say angel'in heavy syrup's discography gets better as you go on, IV being best and III next. as mentioned above, fusao is in christine 23 onna, plus mineko participated in the awesome slap happy humphrey with jojo hiroshige. all douji morita covers = greatness.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Well, I guess my logic is that it takes no thought whatsoever for a band to put "The" in front of their name, but if a band puts an "A" there instead, it's a totally conscious decision and I should honor it. (Though by that logic I should also file bands whose names start with "Thee" and "Th'" under "T," and I don't thiink I do. Oh well.)xp

>after forever are one of those godawful gothicmetal bands. we seem to have zillions of them. big in brazil apparently. or was that the gathering? or epica? or etc...<

Maybe all three. One of the amazing things about some of the Mexican CD stores in Queens is the number of Continental European goth metal CDs they stock on their walls; honestly, the line between Moonspell (from Portugal, so quite possibly huge in Brazil for all I know) and Caifanes or La Castaneda is really not that huge, sonically. Lots of Latin American rock is pretty goth too, in other words. Anyway, the Gathering are a couple hundred times better and more important than After Forever, who are almost as generic as Evanescence as far as that kinda stuff goes, but I like their *Exordium* EP, which features an Iron Maiden cover I'd rather listen to than Iron Maiden any day.

Also, I realized this morning that I accidentally left Atomic Soul Experiences from the list at the top of this thread--whoever they are, but they do have two CD singles on my shelf that I missed.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm... didn't mean to suggest hate for Arling & Cameron in my first post. Their first album is actually nice, although I did think the 2nd was pants.

Didn't notice 'Alpha' in the list, which I also like. Billy OTM about them being Massive Attack-ish.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Saw the Atomic Swindlers in Rochester, NY about 6 months ago.(I live 30 minutes outside of town.) Unbelievable live show. They have a huge sound and the lead singer is fab. To top it off they have screens behind them with images synched to the music. I bought the CD. It is incredible. Don't know why they aren't huge. It's a total mystery to me.

Tracy Adams, Friday, 25 November 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

revive

skogsturken, Thursday, 25 March 2010 02:54 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxADCsPV8s

revive, Thursday, 25 March 2010 05:02 (fifteen years ago)

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sturkskogen, Thursday, 25 March 2010 05:12 (fifteen years ago)

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sturkskogen, Thursday, 25 March 2010 05:17 (fifteen years ago)


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