"Mr Beast" is the band's fifth studio album and, as the title suggests, sees them returning to their first, true love - Rock with a capital "R" - after using a softer palette with more varied instrumentation for album number three ("Rock Action") and delivering a balanced summary of their work to date with 2003's "Happy Songs For Happy People". Mogwai of course, make their own rules in order to break them, so, alongside huge blocks of thrillingly implacable guitar noise, "Mr Beast" features exquisitely poignant piano passages (most of them played by keyboardist/guitarist/vocalist Barry Burns) and great, limpid spaces.
Guitarist/vocalist Stuart Braithwaite explains the album's impetus thus: "We consciously tried to have some louder music on this album, because we had begun to realise that there was a big difference between our live shows and our records, and there was no real reason for that. We wanted to make a record that we were going to enjoy playing live, because when we're on stage, we like the songs where we're really going for it more than the ones where we're just kind of plinking away.
"The quiet-loud/quiet-loud formula that was our trademark became pretty clichéd," he adds, "and also a lot of other people started doing it, so we consciously tried to stop. Not that we invented it, but it got to the point where people thought that was all we did, plus we were getting tired of it ourselves. We'd taken it to extremes on songs like "Like Herod" [from 1997's Mogwai "Young Team"] and we thought there wasn't much further we could go with it. What we ended up doing then was being really quiet and minimal, but later we realised that we really missed making a lot of noise! Now felt like a good time to get back to that, because in a way, it's what started the band. Although only about 25 per cent of the new album is actually noise, that's the one thing we consciously had in mind when we set out."
Recorded between April and October 2005 in the band's own Castle Of Doom studios in Glasgow, "Mr Beast" was produced by Tony Doogan, who also produced "Happy Songs. . ." and was the engineer on "Rock Action". It opens with "Auto Rock" - whose sweetly melancholic, central piano motif is gradually engulfed by a swell of fulsome guitars and pummelling drum beats - and closes with lurching, psych-rock behemoth "We're No Here" (sic). In between are eight future Mogwai classics, including the heads-down "Glasgow Mega-Snake", where what must surely be a dozen guitars swarm around a molten metal core like crazed killer bees, the drum machine-driven country gospel of "Acid Food," which features pedal-steel guitar, the wintry splendour of "Friend Of The Night" and the impossibly poignant "I Chose Horses," featuring guest vocalist Tetsuya Fukagawa (of Japanese hardcore band Envy) and a keyboard contribution from composer/arranger Craig Armstrong. Whether light and lean or dark and monstrous, however, these songs underline Mogwai's belief that to have meaning, rock needs both mass and monumentality. If "Mr Beast" has one thing, it's presence.
"I like music that has weight," admits Braithwaite, "even if it's not sound weight. If I think of a really 'heavy' record, I think of 'Songs Of Love And Hate' by Leonard Cohen as much as I think of the latest record by Sunn O))). It is a bit weird when people think our music is depressing, because I find bad music depressing and we all think sad music is incredibly uplifting. Even if a piece of music is melancholic, if it makes you think, or has some weight to it, then I find that really uplifting. It's like seeing a beautiful painting - it makes your day a bit better."
Of Mogwai's continued interest in pushing their own parameters, Braithwaite declares, "We didn't want to be a band that made a few good records and then made a series of increasingly shitty ones that were like fading photocopies of the earlier records. I've seen that happen a lot of times. The fact is, none of us can do anything else - it's not like we dropped out of architecture school and can go back to it one day! We knew we were in this for the long haul and we knew we wanted to be making worthwhile, important music until the day our hands stop working, so it serves our purpose to challenge ourselves, on every level."
The beauty expressed by "Mr Beast" is the sound of those challenges being met - fearlessly. As to the noise, it's Mogwai's design for life.
― Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)
― toby (tsg20), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)
― that guy who pretended to be Ya Kid K that one time (haitch), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)
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― Sonneywolferine (Leee), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)
― jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)
― sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)
― Cunga (Cunga), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)
― ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)
no, they haven't. and the truly great thing is that the band themselves agree: i was speaking drunkenly to john the guitarist, who knows a friend of mine, a few months back, and he said they didn't think they were anywhere near the peak of their powers yet.
i've seen them play three new songs live. two have been astounding eruptions of molten-metal majesty. one was a clanking mess that - in fairness - sounded like it wasn't really finished yet.
mcgee can swivel, though, with his outdated hype nonsense. he's going to do them more damage than good, the silly old bastard. does he actually think anyone takes him seriously any more?
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)
British Established media does: Radio 5live, Radio 1, 6 Music, The Guardian, The Independent etc
He often gets to do a rent-a-rant via these media channels
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)
there's a big difference between "i need a rentaquote toss to yabber about pop music ... hey, anyone got mcgee's number?" and "who can we get to write/speak intelligently about pop?"
the guy's a knob who's stuck in a timeslip between 1976 and 1994. he's totally out of touch, and it galls me that mogwai feel the need to ally themselves with him.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)
they are shit that perform overcooked retard shit that goes for too fucking long
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)
― hayta, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)
lol why dont you masturbate yourself over mogwai
especially since you will die a virgin
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)
ROCK etc.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)
I do like the idea that Mogwai get better as they go, since that's been their general path so far.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)
― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Saturday, 3 December 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)
― Tomas Ayers, Sunday, 4 December 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)
― van igloo (van smack), Monday, 5 December 2005 02:49 (twenty years ago)
"Travel Is Dangerous":http://s57.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3Q2FPSDGB1KUS1691UX8O56YXS
― Simon H. (Simon H.), Friday, 9 December 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― Simon H. (Simon H.), Friday, 9 December 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)
― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 10 December 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)
much as i want to, i'm not listening to ANY leaks of this. i don't trust leaked versions at all, and i don't want to hear it at shit quality first. if it does turn out to be a stinker - and i don't think it will be, although they did play that dreadful song live that i mention above - then at least i know it's a genuine stinker, rather than thinking: "oo, yes, but is that just a shit recording/missing a track/whatever." [/flagellation]
gaaah, this is gonna be tough.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 10 December 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)
but basically i'm stuck in 1997 wrt mogwai, anyway.
― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 10 December 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)
how many tracks does the album have? (hopefully the FULL leak will be later this weekend)
― shushu, Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 10 December 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)
― Luis Fernandes, Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)
― van igloo (van smack), Sunday, 11 December 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)
― Christopher Costello (CGC), Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)
Hey, Van Igloo, can't find it on SLSK. Care to supply a YSI link? ;-)
― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Sunday, 11 December 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)
― John Cocktolstoy (John Cocktolstoy), Sunday, 11 December 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)
― sweet earth flying, Monday, 12 December 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)
― Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 12 December 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)
― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Monday, 12 December 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)
― Ben (crispyben), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)
― Jaco, Friday, 30 December 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)
Not entirely true. The album was actually in the shops with the trademark Neptunes 'demo' sound, but was pulled and then re-recorded with live instruments (for 'crossover' appeal I believe.)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 30 December 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)
― Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Friday, 30 December 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 12 January 2006 23:44 (twenty years ago)
― J. Lamphere (WatchMeJumpStart), Friday, 13 January 2006 00:09 (twenty years ago)
Now if someone would just throw them a new hook, they might even be worth talking about again....
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Friday, 13 January 2006 00:20 (twenty years ago)
― rizzx, Friday, 13 January 2006 10:02 (twenty years ago)
immediate highlights are the first track, "friend of the night" (which i've heard a lot) and "we're no here" (which i recognise from their recent live shows). the one with envy dude on it sounds like a quiet envy song; the one with their own vocals on it sounds like a throwback.
i'd be lying if i said it had blown me away, but i have a feeling it might be a slow-burner. i want to give it another go tonight, and pay more attention to it. i think it's the kind of album that might not "work" if you let it wash over you, rather than engaging with it. it took me a while to get into "rock action", i remember - although, that said, i do also recall "2 rights" making me weep tears of joy on the very first listen.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 13:24 (twenty years ago)
― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:00 (twenty years ago)
― rizzx (rizzx), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:38 (twenty years ago)
oh, it's a grower.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:08 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:10 (twenty years ago)
― a Side-walkin' Street Wheeler (aaron ef.), Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:14 (twenty years ago)
― did you ask arthur, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 04:59 (twenty years ago)
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 05:46 (twenty years ago)
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 05:53 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer: keeping his reputation for an intense on-set presence (latebloomer), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 05:55 (twenty years ago)
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 06:00 (twenty years ago)
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 06:05 (twenty years ago)
the sound is "we bring the volume to the 11 phase" spianl tap's style - so,yeah,earplugs is a good idea, cause you can become deaf.
the guitarist asked the soundman to bring the volume up even more, though the wall of guitars sounds was strong enough to break the concrete walls of the club.but, and thats a big but, the material is the biggest problem of the show - no wonder the highlights were songs from "young team"...and there were only 2 of them (1st and last track of the album).some of the songs just reapeat the same ideas.or maybe its not mogwai's problem, but post-rock's as a dying art...
― did u ask artuhr, Tuesday, 7 March 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)
"we" here at "matador" have no "idea" what the "fuck" "you're" talking "about."
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 17:19 (twenty years ago)
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 17:23 (twenty years ago)
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 17:47 (twenty years ago)
Loudest experience I've had at a live show was probably standing in front of Luke's amp at a Rapture show. Trebliest. Thing. Ever.
― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 17:51 (twenty years ago)
― harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:25 (twenty years ago)
Bought Mr. Beast yesterday and am finding it pretty impressive. There's something to be said for doing one thing and doing it well. Mogwai writes big dramatic rock songs, and I don't think too many bands do it better. Although I love Rock Action I know that the band does not and I think HSFHP and Mr. Beast are the work of a band focused on making solid music, not creating a masterpiece every time out. This new one seems to be excellently sequenced and plays well as one long piece.
So, good for Mogwai. I can almost forgive them for refusing to play Boston.
― Sean Braudis (Sean Braudis), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:04 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 13 March 2006 05:44 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 13 March 2006 05:45 (twenty years ago)
My new favourite song is "Friend of the Night". It's nothing but a carbon copy of the best moments from "Happy Songs For Happy People", but I still love it.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:27 (twenty years ago)
bleh,
They used to always claim that they were unhappy with "Young Team".
― Sean Braudis (Sean Braudis), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)
Maybe cause most people think it's their best and they want them to focus also on their other work and not neglecting it?!
― sam tooler, Monday, 13 March 2006 19:46 (twenty years ago)
I honestly can't understand some of the praise for that album. And the band's attitude toward has nothing to do with wanting people to focus on their other work -- they were slagging it in interview long before "CODY" was released.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 13 March 2006 20:40 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:23 (twenty years ago)
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:48 (twenty years ago)
-- jimnaseum
Ouch, that sounded a lot meaner than it should. I'm actually wearing a Mr. Beast t-shirt today, the back print got some strange looks from co-workers.
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Thursday, 20 April 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)
MogwaiSunday, May 14, 2006 at 7:00 PMAvalon, Boston, MA
They've made it up to you, yet I dunno if I can forgive them for playing Avalon (the Paradise is thee rock club, after all).
― Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)
― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Sean Braudis (Sean Braudis), Saturday, 22 April 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)
and suddenly it made perfect sense. it revealed itself in all its majesty. it is quite, quite godlike. sitting sober on a train, surrounded by drunken lunatics, listening to "glasgow mega-snake" at full blast rocked.
er, that is all.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 27 May 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 May 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 27 May 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 27 May 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 27 May 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)
Well, they did end up announcing a show here -- excellent as always, although they didn't play as loud as they usually do (I've found that my fave Mogwai shows are the loudest ones).
"Friend of the Night" is godlike, but the more "rock" numbers have grown on me. "Glasgow Mega-Snake" closed the show and was sensational. I still wish more of the album had sounded like "We're No Here", with more of a sludgy, almost industrial crunch rather than straight-up metal (e.g. "Travel Is Dangerous".
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 27 May 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)