Where should I start with?: Chuck Berry, They Might be Giants, Half Japanese, and a shitload more...something for everyone!

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Basically, I need three items of information from any of the following artists you are familiar with, because I don't know that much about them:

1. Where should I start?
2. Some sort of S/D
3. Note where all I really need is a greatest hits compilation instead of acquiring the studio albums. Keep in mind, however, that I'm not a huge fan of Greatest Hits, so only in the most extreme cases.

Here's the list:

The Byrds
Buddy Holly
Cheap Trick
Chuck Berry
Daniel Johnston (most importantly, is Early Recordings vol. 1 worth owning)
Half Japanese
Iggy Pop (solo)
Nas
Pretenders
The Raspberries
Redman
Screamin' Jay Hawkins
They Might Be Giants

Thanks a lot to anyone who helps out. Feel free to just answer one or two, it would still be a help. It's been a really shitty week and some new music will hopefully start this next one off on the right foot.

Holkey, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)

chuck berry - great 28 (this is a greatest hits but its the best)
nas - illmatic

jmeister (jmeister), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

3. Note where all I really need is a greatest hits compilation instead of acquiring the studio albums. Keep in mind, however, that I'm not a huge fan of Greatest Hits, so only in the most extreme cases.

worth noting is that with artists who've been anthologized a lot (and recorded for several different labels), the quality of greatest-hits packages can vary wildly. so find out specifically which best-of to buy.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

for tmbg i'd start with flood; it's full of hits, it's accessible, and most of the songs are good.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)

i have more suggestions but it's all too much to type right now.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

Half Japanese: I love The Band That Would Be King to pieces, though Charmed Life gets a lot of support.

Pretenders: first album, then 2nd album, then Learning to Crawl if you still want more, but that's plenty.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)

They Might Be Giants..

START WITH: Flood, pretty much for the reasons outlined by JB. Some of their most developed melodies combined with a production aesthetic that lets them sound like themselves and also sound very full.

Move on to SEARCH Lincoln and the self-titled debut (available with associated EP and b-side material in the excellent, excellent Then: The Earlier Years double-disc set. Also, Apollo 18.

DESTROY about half of John Henry and 90% of everything after Factory Showroom; they got old and lazy and raked in millions on their Malcolm in the Middle song and basically ended up becoming a parody of themselves...

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)

byrds: the greatest hits might be all you need in this case unless you fall in love with their sound and decide you need everything. the first four studio albums are solid. i haven't heard any of the later gram parsons-type stuff but it's supposed to be good.

cheap trick: i like in color and live at budokan. destroy: the later years.

chuck berry: well, you pretty much have to go with a hits collection here! look for the sadly outta-print the great 28, possibly the single most essential pop record ever. there's a few collections in print but this really boils it down to the very best stuff. i also like st louis to liverpool a lot: you might even start there, as it's got some of his best songs, only a couple of which are on TG28. one of the great overlooked albums of the '60s.

pretenders: first album's easily the best.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

TMBG: Search Flood (the hitzzzz), Apollo 18, Factory Showroom (more rock sound) Lincoln, s/t (more performance-art project sound) -- avoid Mink Car and the Spine. And by all means search John Linnell's _State Songs_, which is at least the equal of any TMBG album.

Pretenders: Biggest hits and many worthwile album tracks on Learning to Crawl.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)

Thanks guys, so far I've decided that I'll go with the great 28 since you all have made it sound so great I know where I can get a copy.

As for the rest, keep them coming.

Oh, one last question. Is that 2-disc "Essential" Sly & the Family set enough, or do I need to own Stand and There's a Riot on their own?

Holkey, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

the big advantage with that sly comp over the albums is the remastering job. also you only miss three or four tracks across off both albums combined. I would wait for a reissue before buying the albums, possibly.

that guy who pretended to be Ya Kid K that one time (haitch), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:47 (twenty years ago)

For Half Japanese I suggest their 43-track Greatest Hits (on 2 CDs) for an overview, or the recent reissue of Loud/Horrible for the skronk.

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and for Daniel Johnston you can't beat Songs Of Pain.

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)

With solo Iggy you should definitely start with the two Bowie-produced albums, The Idiot and Lust For Life.

telephone thing, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

Screamin' Jay -- you want "Cow Fingers and Mosquito Pie," a collection of his '50s work for OKeh. The unedited "I Put a Spell on You," "Yellow Coat," "Little Demon," "You Made Me Love You" . . . you can't go wrong.

Buddy Holly -- the one-disc "Greatest Hits" or two disc "Collection" are both superb. I also like the BGO (UK) twofer of the "Buddy Holly" and "Chirping Crickets" albums.

Raspberries -- "Greatest Hits" will get you going. "Tonight" is one of *the* great rock and roll 45s.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

Screamin' Jay -- you want "Cow Fingers and Mosquito Pie," a collection of his '50s work for OKeh. The unedited "I Put a Spell on You," "Yellow Coat," "Little Demon," "You Made Me Love You" . . . you can't go wrong.

seconded. this one's got everything you need.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)

Sly: You totally need "There's a Riot Goin' On," preferably on vinyl, and I don't often say that--it really hangs together as a two-sided LP. I would say you also need "Fresh."

Iggy's got a two-disc set called "A Million in Prizes" that cherrypicks all the worthwhile stuff, pretty much, from his solo career, and throws in some Stooges songs for good measure ("I Got a Right"!).

TMBG: Not to sound like a broken record, but "Flood."

Daniel Johnston's "Early Recordings Vol. 1" has "Songs of Pain" on it, so yeah. But if you find "Hi How Are You," snap that one up.

The Byrds: greatest-hits album was remastered very nicely a few years ago and is a thing of beauty and a fine, fine starting place.

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

Iggy Pop - I probably like his worst records (because Zombie Birdhouse and Soldier are great), but I really recommend 'New Values' over everything else. To me, that's what Iggy does.

The Idiot and Lust for Life, everyone will be quick to point out as his best.. and maybe they're right... I'd take the Idiot over Lust for Life, if I had to choose only one of them.

The first Pretenders record is one of the finest records ever made.

Half Japanese has a Greatest Hits record (hits? I don't know where) .. The Band that Would be King (record, not video) is my fave - although I don't know if it's in print.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Cheap Trick: get the first three studio records, s/t, "In Color" and "Heaven Tonight." I can't stress these enough.

Keith C (lync0), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Nas - Illmatic is the place to start, to be certain. I can't say I've got a lot of love for his other releases.

Redman - Check out Doc's da Name 2000, or his collaboration with Method Man, Blackout!

Josh Witkowski (braineater), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

The Byrds: Search Sweetheart of the Rodeo's alt-country greatness. Destroy everything else. (Bah! I hate the tambourine man!)

Half Jap: Search Sing No Evil. It's really great, and much more of a balance between skronk and bullshit. I picked up the greatest hits from the library a couple years back and it put me off of Half Jap for years until I got Sing No Evil.

Screamin' Jay Hawkins: Destroy the Essential Recordings comp. It has no liner notes, no recording dates, and a lot of the tracks are "remastered" into (or are later recordings of) overly clean, antiseptic versions of his songs.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

As far as I know, there are really only 4 essential Raspberries tracks: "Go All The Way," "Tonight," "Let's Pretend" and "I Wanna Be With You." Some might say "Overnight Sensation," but I've never really understood what's so great about that one.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)


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