Where is the Love For All These Bands from my "H" CD Shelves Who Don't Get Mentioned Nearly Enough on ILM?

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hacienda brothers
charlie haden*
halfcocked
tom hamilton
col. bruce hampton & late bronze age
hangnail
hardknox
clay harper
hugh harris
alvin youngblood hart
harvey milk*
the hatepinks
heathen shame
heather
helloween
the heptones*
ty herndon
heroes del silencio
bernard hermann*
the hidden hand*
z.z. hill
the hiss
hi-town djs
hocico
hoku
hollis browne
davlid holmes*
the holy ghost
honky
hoosier hot shots
horna
the horrorist
hot cross
hooverphonic*
hope 7
rebecca lynn howard
howling diablos
hrvatski*
human eye*
human zoo
the hunger
hon

* -- these may well stretch the defintion of "Don't Get Mentioned...on ILM" (especially the reggae one, probably, as usual)

xhuxk, Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

why not just do an i-z thread and be done with it?

keyth (keyth), Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

don't be a party pooper!

xhuxk, Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

Which Hangnail do you mean? There's a US Hangnail that's a Christian band and they're real lame. And there's a Brit stoner band called Hangnail that's solidly average. In an odd coincidence the Brit band did a song called "Riffmaster Jesus" on their CD from The Music Cartel a couple years back.

Helloween is an old Euro-metal band from the Eighties who've been around a long time, even splitting in two at one point to form Gamma Ray. I had an all covers album by Helloween that I really liked. They even performed a tune by Babe Ruth on it.

George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 27 November 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

I like Whitman's droney stuff a whole lot. I've been listening to "Dartmouth Street Underpass" and "22 Minutes for Electric Guitar" a lot recently; I've never been completely sold on Hrvatski's records per se, but maybe I ought to give them a second chance.

Hot Cross are phenomenal. Their first 10", "A New Set of Lungs" is totally furious and loud as hell - sorta like Big Bear/Orchid, with lots of layered guitars and shifting time signatures. Can't wait to hear what they do next, as they're easily one of my favorite hardcore(ish) bands right now.

Hoku's "How Do I Feel (The Burrito Song)" has one of the great first verses in all of pop music:

I was free when we met,
you were eating a burrito,
with a girl, some brunette
at El Torosco’s.

Then you smiled
like you knew
that someday we’d be together.
And together we were,
for a while.

d4niel coh3n (dayan), Sunday, 27 November 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)

No Hovercraft?

Garibaldianne (Garibaldianne), Sunday, 27 November 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

The one CD I bought in my anti-music pro-movie phase in middle school was a Bernard Herrmann comp.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 27 November 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

hooverphonic -> a belgian reviewer claimed the new album was better than portishead. he's obviously on crack.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Sunday, 27 November 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)

My favorite Hrvatski album is Oiseaux: an exercise in seeing exactly how far the amen break could be pushed.

A Hoosier Hot Shots CD is actually sitting two feet away from my desk right now: SO much fun. Who doesn't like "I Like Bananas (Because They Have No Bones)"?

Douglas (Douglas), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

hot cross = screamo, post-saetia.
heathen shame = boston/twisted village noise rock, no?

Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

Tom Hamilton- the bass player from Aerosmith?

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 27 November 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Hrvatski - I think the point of drill n' bass was made a while ago really. Isn't he pretty much just doing stuff as Keith Fullerton Whitman these days?

Hampton Grease Band were amazing, should've-been-big-or-at-least-more-notorious-than-they-are Beefheart-esque strangeness from the late 60's-early 70's. You're talking about Col. Bruce Hampton's solo records, though, which suck. Bad MOR jam band dreck.

Helloween are notable for their 2 album Euro-cheese metal concept albums "The Keeper Of The 7 Keys Parts 1 & 2", which they followed up with an album called "Pink Bubbles Go Ape" and blew it. Imagine Rhapsody doing that! The disciples have learned from the mistakes of their masters.

Not much love here is there? Which Bernard Herrmann do you have Chuck?

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Sunday, 27 November 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Halfcocked the soundtrack, right? Not a band?

dali madison's nut (donut), Sunday, 27 November 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

>Which Hangnail do you mean?<

The Brit stoners, though actually you cleared up something I was confused about. I'd heard somebody say Hangnail were Xtn once, but I never realized they meant a different band.

>No Hovercraft?<

No. Who are Hovercraft?

>hooverphonic -> a belgian reviewer claimed the new album was better than portishead. he's obviously on crack.<

Why? Their old stuff (or at least *Blue Wonder Power Milk*) was better than Portishead (or at least I liked it better at the time); why wouldn't their new stuff be better, too? (Though I've never heard their new stuff, so maybe you know something I don't. And I'm guessing you like Portishead more than I do.)


>My favorite Hrvatski album is Oiseaux:<

Mine, too; Oiseaux 96-98 to be exact. That's the only one I've ever liked enough to keep. So yeah, a while ago. Have no idea about his more recent stuff, or what his name is now.


>Tom Hamilton- the bass player from Aerosmith?<

Nah, though he's in my collection plenty, obviously; I meant the experimental composer who put out *London Fix: Music Changing With the Price of Gold* a year or two back.


>You're talking about Col. Bruce Hampton's solo records<

Not really; I'm talking his two new-wave-era (early '80s) records with the band Late Bronze Age, which I prefer to both his Aquarium Rescue Unit ones or his Hampton Grease Band one (inasmuch as I remember it, though I prefer HGB to his most recent stuff obviously.)


>Which Bernard Herrmann do you have Chuck?<

*Citizen Kane: The Essential Bernard Herrmann Film Music Collection,* Silva double CD

>Halfcocked the soundtrack, right? Not a band?<

Nope, a glammy 3-gal/2-guy hard rock band/pop-metal band, DreamWorks 2001.

And the only Helloween I own (or have ever enjoyed) is *Metal Jukebox* an all-covers CD which includes their interpretations of songs by Jethro Tull, Focus, Babe Ruth, Sensational Alex Harvey Band, David Bowie, and Frank Marino's Mahogany Rush, among others.

xhuxk, Sunday, 27 November 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

I really like Charlie Haden, but more from his work with Ornette Coleman than anything else. And Ornette Coleman obviously does get mentioned. I've heard some of that Liberation Orchestra whatever stuff that was pretty good though.

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Monday, 28 November 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)

Whatcha got by Z.Z. Hill? He's brilliant.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 28 November 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

while it is true that hrvatski has been eclipsed by keith fullerton whitman's own drone and early electronic work, the first track on Oiseaux 96-98 is a stormer and makes that album worth owning.

his remix of a kid606 track is also a must. its called something like catstep my vsp.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 28 November 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

>hooverphonic -> a belgian reviewer claimed the new album was better than portishead. he's obviously on crack.<

Why? Their old stuff (or at least *Blue Wonder Power Milk*) was better than Portishead (or at least I liked it better at the time); why wouldn't their new stuff be better, too? (Though I've never heard their new stuff, so maybe you know something I don't. And I'm guessing you like Portishead more than I do.)

I do like Portishead better but it's just not that comparable in my opinion. I think the comparison is a bit easy. The last album is actually pretty good. They have a new singer now.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 28 November 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

The Horrorist was a gabber producer in the 90s, right? I'm pretty sure I have something on a comp. somwhere.

naus (Robert T), Monday, 28 November 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, davlid holmes. I love Lets Get Killed. I think that was the title. His DJ sets are white noisy hottness though. Good lord.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 28 November 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

The Horrorist was kind of goth-techno, search "One Night in New York City" Chris Liebing mix.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 28 November 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

got one : honky !

ztt are about to reissue this album (why when they have Nasty Rox Inc in their unreleased archives is beyond me) with extra disc of remixes, apparently.

basically - uk version of daisy age hip hop - lots of radio friendly loops and fun stuff, not great - but pleasant enough.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Nah, the Honky I have his a hard-assed southern rock band who put out their album this year (probably converted punks, but I try not to hold it against them). ZZ Hill, I have two really good compilation CDs; I'll try to check the specifics when I'm home, where they are. And yeah, *Let's Get Killed* is the one David Holmes CD I still own.

xhuxk, Monday, 28 November 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

ah ha .. back to lurking/learning mode then. soz for confusion.
re david holmes - for me this was all about his Free Assosciation setup, preferred that a lot more than any of his solo stuff.

mark e (mark e), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

simon reynolds on the horrorist:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/9923,reynolds,6343,22.html

xhuxk, Monday, 28 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

ZZ Hill was a bluesy southern soul man w/a typically long and confusing discography. Later stuff on Malaco and Columbia is OK but back in the day I bought a 99 cent album from the 70s -- Keep On Loving You United Artists I think -- and wound up loving it to death. Haven't heard it in years, though. "This Time They Told the Truth" on his Legacy compilation is beautiful but sloooooow.

I've never heard it but I believe he did a concept lp w/Swamp Dogg!

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

...and of course the Horrorist is That Guy with the Huge Spiked Hairstyle with the bleach blonde short-haired girlfriend in Depeche Mode's 101 film. It's true! Only found that out when the movie came out on DVD.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

I love teen-pop groups like Hoku where I never actually encountered them in popular culture, only in raves in magazines. In my experience, Hoku is a "critic's band."

'Twan (miccio), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Hacienda Brothers suck ass, in a totally inoffensive country-esque way. I know, I know, they got all the bonafides, but that album bored me to tears.

What I remember from Hooverphonic was a friend of mine rabidly recommending some song of theirs as magnificent, and then being crestfallen when he realized it was essentially Hot Buttered Soul with worse lyrics.

And the Howling Diablos are an amazing show and highly recommended even if they can be a little bit on the shallow side of fun (how many songs about drinking do you need?)

js (honestengine), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

I liked two songs from the Hacienda Brothers' album: "No Time To Waste" and "Saguraro." None of the others made a great impression.

John Fredland (jfredland), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

>No Hovercraft?<

No. Who are Hovercraft?

Mostly known as the band with Eddie Veder's girlfriend in it, though I think one song did get a small amount of alternative radio (or MTV 120 Minutes) play.

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

Heathen Shame do some cool stuff, I'm a big fan of Greg Kelley, the jazz guy who barely ever plays "jazz". Something about forgetting what you know.

Am I the only one who still listens to Swarm and Dither?

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:02 (twenty years ago)

why not just do an i-z thread and be done with it?

Pablo (Pablo A), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)

Hey nobody is forcing you to read these, you know. (I mean, you don't see me whining about the thousands of ILM threads I have no use for. I assume other people *do* have use for them. So shut your darn trap.)

Anyway. The ZZ Hill CDs I have are *Turn Back the Hands of Time: Rare And Unreleased Recordings, 1965-1972* (Night Train) and *This Time They Told the Truth: The Columbia Years* (Columbia/Legacy), both pre-Malaco, even though my favorite stuff by him is '80s Malaco stuff like "Cheating in the Next Room"; I used to own a couple of those LPs on vinyl (and according to Xgau's '80s book there was a good best-of of those years), but I think I sold them. Which was very dumb of me.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

>Hacienda Brothers suck ass, in a totally inoffensive country-esque way. I know, I know, they got all the bonafides, but that album bored me to tears. <

"More a soul record than a country record," Matt Cibula (who I believe likes it more than I do) says, which is true. And I don't care about no bonafides; hell, all boring alt-county bands have bona-fides. I care about the songs and the rhythm and the singing; it's one of the few alt-country CDs lately that *didn't* bore me to tears. But right, it isn't great. Might make my country Top 40 this year if I were to make one; then again it might not. (It was a great year.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

(Also possibly more a Tex-Mex border record than a country record...okay, maybe not, but there is *some* border on there. Which isn't to say the people in the band aren't stupid. Here's me on the 2005 country thread: "Dave Gonzales of the Hacienda Brothers in *CMA Closeup* says if he could go back to any time in history, it''d be the early '60s., thanks to really good motorcycles and clothes and "polite and straight up and neighborly" people, but also "there was no hard rock to screw up anyone's eardrums or airwaves yet.")

xhuxk, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Heptones need more love. "Country Boy" and Heptones and Friends Vol. 1 & 2 are classic, and that Sea of Love comp is okay, not as great. I'm sure I've got more loving to do.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

Yeah. It may be corny, but that song on the Rockers soundtrack, "Book of Rules," is pretty gret.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Chuck, you need a Hanatarash CD on that shelf.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

Who would make your 2005 Country list? I have to admit, the sheer number of replies makes me unwilling to wade into the rolling thread, and I don't tend to get sent much country outside of the Jim Roll and colaborators (which I like).

js (honestengine), Thursday, 1 December 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)

ZZ Hill yeah, and Eddie Holloway, at least according to the casual but never careless mastery of his tracks on that Chitlin Blues comp (thanxx xhuxx) Was just writing about Col. Bruce; couldn't dig back far enough into my storage to find The Late Bronze Age or Arkansas (now on a twofer CD, I'm told), but some of those tracks are on his Strange Voices anthology, which is mostly pretty good, the music is almost always good (and varied), the words sometimes try too hard for the wild 'n-crazy yet Meaningful bit.He gets more songful as he goes along, though: I hate a lot of fusion, but the live, self-titled Aquarium Rescue Unit, with a bunch of once-and-future Allman Brothers Bandites involved, is pretty exhilarating. The studio album, Mirrors Of Embarrassment is pretty good too, and the studio Fiji Mariners, though the drummer on most tracks needs to swing. The current Codetalkers' drummer does swing enough (while rocking), and their whole album Deluxe Edition is built around the blues-in-bluegrass-cadence (including an avalanche "I'm So Glad," lots closer to Skip James than Cream, which is good).Hampton Grease Band's Music To Eat eventually lapses into pleasantly Deadian guitar groves, but not beofre Bruce wails the directions from a can of spray paint, legal notices, torn-up headlines,etc: the usual dropout I'm-So-Bored desperate measures of that tyme, but he sounds as much like Kevin Coyne or Roger Chapman, if not Crocus Behemoth's holiday-inflamed uncle, as he does like the usually-associated Beefheart(more wired 'n'hoarse than gravelly-be-funky). Human Eye tracks tend to start great, but then just kind of end (maybe they should turn 'em around.)Exception is track 11 (not titled on the CD-R xxhuxx sent): yowling and spewing all over Eminem and other "modern music." Frazzled 'n' cool, kind of in there between early Bruce and early Beef, in that clawed-up niche, but otherwise (more literally): RamonesFallMahJongg squished sideways from a clamp. One bearable track each are my only goodish memories of: Harvey Milk, Holy Ghost, Heathan Shame. Bernard Herrman I've always liked (even his opera of Wuthering Heights; wonder if Kate Bush knows it). Charlie Haden's usually at least real good; most rocking moment is his upright bass-through-wah-wahhh on Ornette's "Rock The Clock." Not that they have to rock, but they sure did.Hooverphonic is okay. Hoosier Hotshots have always read like the perfect band for me, but somehow I've never heard 'em.

don, Thursday, 1 December 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

>Who would make your 2005 Country list?<

Last time I callibrated, it looked like something like this:

ALBUMS
1. Miranda Lambert
2. Deana Carter
3. Gary Allan
4. Jamie O'Neal
5. Shooter Jennings
6. Lee Ann Womack
7. Big & Rich
8. *Desperate Housewives*
9. Dallas Wayne
10. Elizabeth McQueen and the Firebrands
(also conceivably in the running: Odyssey Band, Little Big Town, Brooks and Dunn)

SINGLES
1. Shooter Jennings - "4th of July"
2. Miranda Lambert - "Kerosene"
3. Dierks Bentley - "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do"
4. Kentucky Headhunters - "Big Boss Man
5. Erika Jo - "I Break Things"
6. Deana Carter - "The Girl You Left Me For"
7. Mazey Gardens and the Brick Hit House Band - "Callin' in Dead"
8. Toby Keith - "As Good As I Once Was"
9. Brad Paisley - "Alcohol"
10. Tim McGraw - "Drugs or Jesus"
(also in the running: Sara Evans "Cheatin", Kenny Chesney "Anything But Mine," Leann Womack "I May Hate Myself in the Morning", Leann Womack "20 Years and Two Husbands Ago," Saywer Brown with Robert Randolph "Mission Temple Fireworks Stand," Montgomery Gentry "Something to Be Proud Of," Big & Rich "Comin' To Your City," Cowboy Troy "I Play Chicken With the Train.")

xhuxk, Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

and oh yeah

REISSUES
1. *Good For What Ails You: Music of the Medicine Shows: 1926-1937*
2. *You Ain't Talkin to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots of Country Music*
3. David Allen Coe *Penitentiary Blues*
4. *The Dukes of Hazzard*
5. Bill Kirchen *King of Dieselbilly*


xhuxk, Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Hmm. That Medicine show one looks kinda good. I might ask for that for xmas...

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

I'll probably replace Bill Kirchen in that number 5 reissue spot with Rosanne Cash's *Seven Year Ache*, now that I think of it. (A duller vote, but a more interesting record. Sometimes things work that way.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

One on your shelf I overlooked: Alvin Youngblood Hart, a bluesman who can do right by Western Swing and Captain Beefheart and Mississippi Delta. Acoustic, and, recently, heavy electric (George reviewed in Voice). Good varied sets by him (and many others)on "Beale Street Caravan" radio show (check their site).

don, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
I forgot I picked up The Meaning of Life: The Best of the Heptones 1966-1976 (Trojan, 1999) a year ago in Jamaica, of all places.

A few days ago I picked up 1993's Good Vibes (Classic) at a truck stop in Wisconsin (for a dollar). The backing track isn't as bad as I thought it would be. The harmonies are wonderful. I think I'll pretty much just track down everything by them from now on.

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Friday, 30 December 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

revive

skogsturken, Thursday, 25 March 2010 02:55 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxADCsPV8s

revive, Thursday, 25 March 2010 05:02 (fifteen years ago)

!

sturkskogen, Thursday, 25 March 2010 05:17 (fifteen years ago)


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