LA Times prints stupidest hip-hop article ever

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http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/commentary/la-op-hiphop27nov27,0,6754079.htmlstory?coll=la-homepage-calendar-widget

Can't fight this power
From Baghdad to Baltimore, Big Boi, Young Jeezy and countless upstart rappers are changing the world.

By Ryan J. Smith and Swati Pandey, researchers on The Times' editorial pages.

Tomorrow's most powerful political voice won't be yammering on CNN.

Tune in to your iPod.

In 1939, Billie Holiday crooned against the lynching of black men in her banned song "Strange Fruit" (MP3 (00:37) ). In 1969, Jimi Hendrix's version of "The Star-Spangled Banner" blasted peaceniks out of their drug dreams and into the streets. Then, in 1989, came Public Enemy's "Fight the Power": MP3 (00:41)
Got to give us what we want
Gotta give us what we need
Our freedom of speech is freedom or death
We got to fight the powers that be
That inchoate shout of rage against all forms of oppression is growing into a force of real potential. The hip-hop nation has gone global, and it's going to change the world.

It wasn't Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson or Louis Farrakhan who cranked up debate about bigotry in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. It was Kanye West's "Bush doesn't care about black people."

Michael Moore's a mere whiner compared to Eminem, who raps: MP3 (01:23)
Strap [Bush] with an AK-47
Let him go fight his own war
Let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil.
And listen to poet and singer Jill Scott as she rails: MP3 (00:28)
Video cameras locked on me
In every dressing room ...
You neglect to see
The drugs coming into my community
Weapons coming into my community
Dirty cops in my community
Crispin Sartwell, a political science teacher at Dickinson College, says of the phenomenon: "If Thomas Paine or Karl Marx were [here] today, they might be issuing records rather than pamphlets." Consider:

West's words inspired Mississippi rapper David Banner and radio powerhouses including Big Boi of Outkast and Young Jeezy to play a concert in Atlanta to support Hurricane Katrina victims.

The Hip Hop Caucus, based in Washington, helped organize a march with black politicians into Gretna, La., to protest police efforts to keep Katrina refugees out of the mostly white city.

Hip-hop organizations such as the National Political Hip Hop Convention started large-scale voter registration drives in 2004, and thousands of young men and women donned Sean "P. Diddy" Combs' "Vote or Die" shirts while voting for the first time.

Russell Simmons' Hip Hop Summit Action Network mobilized 100,000 students, teachers, parents and hip-hop stars in a successful fight to repeal a proposed budget cut to New York City schools. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said the protest helped change his mind on the issue (and presumably helped persuade him to seek Simmons' endorsement in his reelection campaign). Simmons' group also registered 2 million young people to vote and estimates that 1.3 million of them voted.

Think these efforts are just marketing schemes? The Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement, an organization that follows voting trends, reported that in the 2004 elections "youth turnout increased substantially, and much of this increase was driven by an increase in voting among African American youth." A similar voting bloc helped reelect Kwame Kilpatrick in Detroit — the nation's first "hip-hop mayor."

But hip-hop's greater potential comes from its technology-fueled border-hopping power, with the Internet and iPods plugging the beat straight into the minds of U.S. military personnel in Baghdad and militant young Muslims alike. Globally, hip-hop merchandising, by one industry estimate, seduces $10 billion from an estimated 45 million consumers ages 13 to 34. Listeners have an annual spending power of $1 trillion, according to Forbes magazine. The genre is defining the war in Iraq the way psychedelic rock shaped our memories of the Vietnam War — not only because it has become the music of protest but because it is the language of the soldiers, who make it themselves on simple equipment. Words over a beat.

Michael Tucker's documentary, "Gunner Palace," tracks 400 troops lodged in Uday Hussein's former digs as they spend their time off free-styling, beat-boxing and drumming on tanks:
IEDs be going off while we out on patrol
scrap metal be ripping through your skin and your bones
Muslim and Jewish Israelis rhyme about the intifada.

In Britain, the Asian Dub Foundation sings about Tony Blair's entanglement in Iraq, while Ms. Dynamite gives hip-hop a feminist touch: MP3 (01:16)
How could you beat your woman till you see tears?
Got your children living in fear.
How you gonna wash the blood from your hands?
Hip-hop came naturally to most of Africa, where people know all about putting stories to a drum beat. In 2000, Senegalese rappers, who compare their craft to tasso storytelling, helped end the 20-year rule of President Abdou Diouf and continue their political efforts by organizing rallies against the mass unemployment and corruption that plague their country. In Ukraine, the band Greenjolly strung protest chants over a beat — the anthem of the Orange Revolution. And during last month's Azerbaijani elections, rappers warmed up the crowd at Freedom bloc rallies.

Hip-hop travels like no other music. Any rapper can use a computer to layer an American beat under a native melody and a rap about local politics. With every rapper who turns from "bling-bling" to protest, hip-hop comes closer to being a global force for change.

This political potential revealed itself in the recent riots that shuddered through French suburbs. Young people from these immigrant ghettoes, like Disiz la Peste, have been rapping about neglect and hopelessness for a decade:
For France it matters nothing what I do
In its mind I will always be
Just a youth from the banlieue
Disiz spoke out against the rioting recently — "Burning cars and schools, it only harms ourselves because it's happening in front of our own homes" — while still calling France out for inequality of opportunity.

Hip-hop leadership in the making.

Can hip-hop overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement? Of course. It's ready to take on failing schools, the effects of drugs, the despair of a low-wage economy, warfare on city streets and on foreign battlefields. The imagined world of get-rich-quick schemes and candy-colored Escalades is not credible. The calls for accountability are.

Kanye West's Bush remark stated a perception fed by the reality of the administration's policies. Speaking truth to power, igniting passion and inspiring people to action — this is when music has always been most potent.

Hip-hop is a global party with a platform that's just beginning to take shape. What it already has is a mike and millions of ears.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Sunday, 27 November 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

There's some template somewhere of a similar article in 1975 about rock and roll, doubtless.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 November 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

The writing is doofy -- so many "serious" writers get so earnest when they talk about pop music, like they'd somehow be undermining their case if they admitted the music was fun. And the implied dichotomy between "bling" (and what was the last hip-hop record to use that word, anyway?) and social activism is a false and shallow one. But I do think hip-hop's political position (a sort of default populism, deeply suspicious of authority) has been undercovered in the mainstream media, which ascribes no agenda to it beyond, well, "bling." Even -- or especially -- among the kind of earnest Boomer types who pine for the days when pop stars wrote protest songs. I encountered a fair amount of that sort of thing on left-wing blogs last year, people who had no idea that Jay-Z was on record against the Iraq war (more to the point, people who had no idea who Jay-Z was). So I think it's a fair issue to raise. It would be better written about by people who knew what they were talking about, of course. But one can only hope for so much.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

They lost me at "Billie Holliday crooned against... lynching." But maybe I'm just annoyed that they skipped from Hendrix to PE. No "Guns Of Brixton"? Hell, where's Bob Marley?

rogermexico (rogermexico), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah they're clueless, no doubt.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

(The "researchers on The Times' editorial pages" bit makes me think this is a coupla kids in the office who convinced their even-more-clueless elders to let them write something about political hip-hop.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

Its poorly written but hardly qualifies as 'stupidest...ever' if only because its not the thousandth article mourning the lack of political rap music.

deej.. (deej..), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

The genre is defining the war in Iraq the way psychedelic rock shaped our memories of the Vietnam War — not only because it has become the music of protest but because it is the language of the soldiers, who make it themselves on simple equipment

I don' thin' that's quite so, the paper being its own best evidence. Lotsa old heavy metal and country music in that mix, too, a real mish-mash. Amusing, the front page (and above the fold) in the LA Times on Thursday or Friday had a pic of a soldier playing a big old acoustic guitar, sitting against a building. Might've been country or the blues, didn't look much like hip-hop.

George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

maybe he was in the roots!

gear (gear), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

this is a coupla kids in the office who convinced their even-more-clueless elders to let them write something about political hip-hop

Almost certainly. But it's really embarassing, esp. in a town where people fancy themselves "media-savvy."

And it was someone senior at the Times decided to lead the Sunday Opinion section with not one, not two, but three equally fatuous pieces on Hip-Hop. This is The Times Weighing In, and it make weight at a regional college paper.

(I think you're letting the would-be west coast paper of record off easy. Editors shouldn't need to have their ear 2 da streetz to be appalled by that Billie Holliday line or most of the plain sloppiness that follows.)

rogermexico (rogermexico), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

("it make weight" = "it wouldn't make weight")

rogermexico (rogermexico), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, true.

Of course they did just lay off like 85 people, so maybe this is what's left...Welcome to your new daily paper!

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

Xpost

Oh, my mistake, it was from Bagram in Kabul and on Friday (but everyone who's been in Afghanistan has served a tour in Iraq and vice versa). He looked pretty damn white though he could've been playing "La Bamba" or braceros music.

And they didn't lay off the 85 yet unless it happened yesterday or today and I missed it. This week or next maybe when buyout offers/options are declined or accepted or whatever.

George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

Maybe that's the problem -- the editors are too busy polishing their resumes, calling realtors and making contingency plans to actually edit.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Hmm... this actually makes sense as an act of revenge against management.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

Didn't the LA Times have, at one time, one of the best hip-hop writers in the country? I forget the name :( but the name was three words... this was mid 90s.

dali madison's nut (donut), Sunday, 27 November 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

Actually, this thread is distorted. Today's "Currents" -- the Sunday opinion section -- well, the theme is "hip-hop" although it's not all devoted to that. The longer color opinion pieces and such are split evenly. The one mentioned initially is precisely counter-balanced by "Don't believe the hype -- rap anger isn't a meaningful message."

First graf's --

"Word on the street is that hip-hop is a message, the black CNN. Anyone who questions that winds up at the bottom of a verbal dog pile. Such traitors, we're told, just don't listen to enough of the music -- that, in particular, the work of "conscious" rappers would change their minds.

Please. One can take a good does of ... Kanye "Bush doesn't care [blah-blah] West and still see nothing that resembles any kind of message that people truly committed to forging change would recognize..."

Box out quote on runover page 'One more announcement that blak America is in a "war" against racism inspires, well, nothing..."

Subhed title: 'Conscious' rappers snoozing...

Anyway, plus piece on "the hood goes corporate" and "The NBA's bling ban: looking good."

George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 27 November 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Can hip-hop overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?
Can hip-hop overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?
Can hip-hop overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?
Can hip-hop overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?
Can hip-hop overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?
Can hip-hop overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?
Can hip-hop overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?
Can hip-hop overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 28 November 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

Give it a rest, the article's not that bad at all. Maybe the point is ultra obvious for you obsessive lot, but for the paper's target audience it's not. Let's see you write better.

yuiy, Monday, 28 November 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

haha, there are lots of people on ILM who write better than that.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

the article's not that bad at all

You can't be serious. It's an indulgent B- paper in High School.

Maybe the point is ultra obvious for you obsessive lot, but for the paper's target audience it's not.

If one's point is not obvious, it helps to give the impression of being "smart" and "knowing something about the field."

Let's see you write better.

I'm pretty sure most everyone here already has. (xpost)

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

OK Mr. Genius, tell me why the article is SO bad. Or as you say, an indulgent high school paper.

yuiy, Monday, 28 November 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

Because it fails to entertain, inform, or enlighten.

Because a slapdash fusillade of breathless assertions and unexamined clichés and contextless quotations only confirms the notion that youf kulcha is self-obsessed, naïve, and manipulable.

Because the authors don't know what "inchoate" means.

Because Africans be drummin'.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

I see, you're just a crotchety snob. Probably some old man.

yuiy, Monday, 28 November 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

And the implied dichotomy between "bling" (and what was the last hip-hop record to use that word, anyway?) and social activism is a false and shallow one.

You're an idiot if you think a dichotomy between bling and activism doesn't exist. Are you suggesting that rappers who rattle off their possessions are activists? Don't tell me it's some kind of "commentary on economic/racial/class stratification" because it's not. It's run of the mill playground bragging.

yuiy, Monday, 28 November 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

[/end trollfeeding]

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

Are you suggesting that rappers who rattle off their possessions are activists?

Er, dude? The article in question does exactly that.

"Thousands of young men and women donned Sean "P. Diddy" Combs' "Vote or Die" shirts while voting for the first time."

See, it's kinda complicated.

Argh! You are awesome!

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I'm on PCP. And I just don't like you anyway so I thought I would waste some of your time.

yuiy, Monday, 28 November 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

You've probably never written a real article in your life anyway, you just whine on message boards.

yuiy, Monday, 28 November 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)

http://www.orthodoxanarchist.com/portfolio/haterade2.jpg

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)

far from the worst i've ever read. but it is kinda pedestrian. kinda like the flipside to david brooks's equally dumb and pedestrian "omigod the muslims are goin' GANGSTA!!" article a few weeks ago.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I like that decal!!

Can the NBA overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?
Can the NRA overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?
Can the NSA overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?
Can the DEA overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?
Can the CIA overcome its occasional embrace of the thug life and "bling-bling" image and become a true political movement?


George the Animal Steele, Monday, 28 November 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

What it already has is a mike and millions of ears.

hiphop sounds like some kind of mega-Mr. Potatohead with millions of ears, but unfortunately just the one "mike".

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 28 November 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

All I need is one mic... yeah, yeah yeah yeah
All I need is one mic... that’s all I ever needed in this world, fuck cash
All I need is one mic... fuck the cars, the jewelry
All I need is one mic... to spread my voice to the whole world

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 28 November 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)

The article's lame, but am I the only one who LOVES the way the formatting makes it look like the author's awkward pontifications are part of the quoted lyrics? Examples:

We got to fight the powers that be
That inchoate shout of rage against all forms of oppression

Though, that's not as good as Eminem's acidic suggestion that George W. Bush, in addition to everything else, has lame taste in coffeehouse soul:

Let him go fight his own war
Let him impress daddy that way [...]
And listen to poet and singer Jill Scott

This also has a certain present-tense urgency that I like:

scrap metal be ripping through your skin and your bones
Muslim and Jewish Israelis rhyme about the intifada.

Not as good but still noteworthy:
Weapons coming into my community
Dirty cops in my community
Crispin Sartwell, a political science teacher at Dickinson College

Got your children living in fear.
How you gonna wash the blood from your hands?
Hip-hop came naturally to most of Africa

Let's go ahead and bold this line, just for the sake of "did he really say that?"

Hip-hop came naturally to most of Africa, where people know all about putting stories to a drum beat.

And now, I'm off to listen to poet and singer Paul McCartney.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 28 November 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)

hahaha. I really thought the line about the muslims and jews was part of the lyrics.

Sym Sym (sym), Monday, 28 November 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

Ha: the writing is super-embarrassingly doofusy and the idea is too surfacey and simplistic to actually mean anything, but I give it credit for making the opposite of the usual doofusy over-simplistic point about hip-hop.

I think newspapers just really feel like they need to say stuff about hip-hop, and apart from the music critics, nobody can figure it out enough to say anything other than (a) "Hip-hop is important! And people are all communicating with it around the world and talking about issues and stuff!" or (b) "Hip-hop is important! And that's scary cause aren't they all thugs and stuff?"

nabiscothingy, Monday, 28 November 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

By the way, see, this is the kind of doofusy article that David Brooks should be writing about hip-hop! Like all these other middle-aged white guys would be shaking their heads and worrying about hip-hop's influence on the young people, and then Brooks would come in all dorkoid and be like "Wait, guys, this is really interesting though, I think it's like this global -- guys? Guys? No seriously, guys, seriously." Maybe that's Richard Roeper I'm imagining again, though.

nabiscothingy, Monday, 28 November 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Maybe that's Richard Roeper I'm imagining again, though.

probably more tom friedman -- the panglossian techno-globalism and cluelessness is TOTALLY his schtick.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 28 November 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

OTM re Friedman. But working in Singapore's superior public school system or it's OK if everyone loses their corporate job because than they can just sell T-shirts that say "I lost my job and didn't even get this crummy T-shirt" on eBay into hip-hop culture could be a little tough.

I mentioned yesterday the rest of the section was full of hip-hop. The editors did indeed search out a couple Brookses and Sartwells to heave to and speak with the voice of authority for the Sunday mimosa and brunch readers.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 28 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

It was really kind of a weird, confusing tease for them to put Baltimore in the headline of the article but nowhere in the actual content (presumably just for the alliteration of the stupid "from Baghdad to Baltimore" part), but it's probably for the best that no rappers from Baltimore are mentioned in that piece.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't Cappadonna driving a cab in Baltimore?

what has become of cappadonna?

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

What it already has is a mike and millions of ears.

Is that better than three chords and the truth?

nickn (nickn), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
You've probably never written a real article in your life anyway, you just whine on message boards.

-- yuiy, Sunday, November 27, 2005 9:59 PM (1 year ago)

and what, Friday, 6 April 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)


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