Critical darlings you can't stand

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Is there a critical darling you wish would rot in hell? My picks are Le Tigre, Sleater-Kinney, and Mogwai

― Micheline, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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― Norman Phay, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

godspeed you black emperor!, (and these are probably more nme hype- machined than critically acclaimed,) gorillaz.

― minna, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I'm obviously uber-indie, and therefore hate anything that anyone else might possibly have heard of.

[hello mr cheek, I'd like you to meet mr tongue]

― emil.y, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Alicia Keys, White Stripes, Ja Rule, Vladislav Delay

― chaki, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone with a Buckley-esque lead vocalist

― electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Le fuckin Tigre. Clinic. Magnetic Fields. And, though they're not "critically acclaimed" I am fucking sick of seeing that fop from Dashboard Confessional every time I open a magazine.

― adam, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Vladislav Delay?

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

and the moldy peaches

― minna, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Kylie.

― Chris, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Missy Elliot

― electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ned, you critic, are you trying to disown darling Vladislav?

― Curt, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Guided by Voices. If I have to hear another critic go off about how cool Robert Pollard is because he likes drinking beer, I'm going to vomit. Um, I also second/third LeTigre, who are on the cover of The Wire this month. They had a few decent songs, but I don't really care about them or their "message"--Kathleen Hanna's done better than this. Um.. and Sleater-Kinney. And The Donnas--snore. All their songs sound exactly alike (and that doesn't make them "like the Ramones"; it just makes them suck!)

― geeta, Wednesday, 27 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ned, you critic, are you trying to disown darling Vladislav?

I can't disown what I don't know...

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Radiohead and Frank Zappa.

― helenfordsdale, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Arthur Doyle. He's NOT a genius of the avant-garde; he's out of his tree and barely functional as a human being, let alone a player.

― Colin Meeder, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahem . . . (clears throat)

Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Lou Reed, New York Dolls, Mott the Hoople, Brian Eno after he stopped writing pop songs, Bill Laswell, Terry Callier, Jon Lucien, Jan Garbarek, 4 Hero, Robert Fripp after Exposure, Keiji Haino, Charles Gayle, John Zorn after about 1991, Sonic Youth post-Daydream Nation, Van Morrison, Graham Parker, Animals That (sic) Swim, alternative country in general, country in general, Lester Young, Crowded House/Finn, Go-Betweens, Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, Yoko Ono, Diamanda Galas, Lydia Lunch, DNA, Arto Lindsay, Pere Ubu post-Datapanik, Little Fucking Feat, Frank ZZZZZappa, Evan Parker, Beanie Sigal, Nick Cave without the Birthday Party, Ice-T, Ice Cube, Ella Fucking Fitzgerald, the fucking Charlatans, Stone Roses, Ian Brown solo, Perfect Disaster, Elvis Costello, Spacemen 3, Microdisney, Stereolab post-1996, Lester Bowie's Brass Fantasy, Jason & the Scorchers, Long Ryders, Daniel fucking Lanois, Steps, Wire post-1979, Blade, Snuff, the fucking Pogues, Billy Bastard Bragg, Bob Marley, Sherwood/On-U Sound (I mean, what's the POINT?) and above all others, John fucking bastard Coltrane.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Animals That (sic) Swim

I liked them, actually. (Of all the names to pick out!)

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is there anybody left?

― powertonevolume, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You forgot Ryan Adams. ;-)

― powertonevolume, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Track 3 on Heartbreaker is superb.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hate everyone that I love... particularly anyone who's been on my playlist the last six hours. If you get my drift.

― Jerry, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pavement. Guided by Voices. Yo La Tengo.

― Lord Custos, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pretty impressive list by Marcello. Most of those artists I find overrated as well though I would not "wish them to rot in hell" really. Lou Reed shouldn't be on there and if it would just be for "Magic and Loss". Neither Dylan who justified his existence with "Time out of Mind". Garbarek had his moments, though it is all about his "northern" impressionistic sax sound which is quite unidimensional.

― alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Slint. Their army of acolytes, most of whom seem to live in Glasgow, would have it that they were emotionally devastating avant-garde visionaries and that Spiderland is one of the greatest albums ever. Bollocks. It's GOTH. And Mogwai don't sound anywhere near as much like Slint as their detractors would like to make out.

Oh, and anything by the Smiths, Morrissey or Bowie.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mogwai ofcourse don't sound like slint.. because they sound like a fuzzed-out RODAN!

Anyway, I love everyband the critics like, mainly, and most bands the critics don't like too. ILX has made me too open to new sounds and shot my taste all to hell.

Beck, perhaps, irritates me sometimes. But I don't pay much attention. I think I would like Limp Bizkit better if the crit-establishment hailed them in a more refined way.

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well I must be a goddamn critic, because I think most everybody mentioned is fine - er, darling. The ones I've heard of, that is. Or else, as usual with these "overrated" threads, they've received mixed reviews at best. (Yoko Ono??)

― Curt, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, when was Lydia Lunch a critic's darling? Anyway, I don't wish him any ill will, I find him pleasant much of the time, maybe I need to listen more closely, but I totally don't get the acclaim for:

FENNESZ.

― sundar subramanian, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Brian Eno after he stopped writing pop songs" - Dude, totally. Also, ...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Half-Baked Songs That We Covered Up With Loud Guitars and Some Semi-Interesting Pseudo- Experimental Sounds.

― pirateking, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

// no-neck blues band

// jackie-o motherfucker

this is just barely musical stuff on any level. oh and le tigre too. how did they get the cover of the wire?

― fields of salmon, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

barely musical

So you're in charge of defining what music is, then?

― hstencil, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Marcello - that's quite a list! I would be very interested to know what music you rilly, rilly, RILLY, love.

― Chris, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wouldn't.

― electric sound of jim, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Silver Jews. Monotone shit. Berman's an atrocius poet too. Stephen Malkmous. He's seen Futureworld/Westworld. And he tells us Yul Brenner was a robot cowboy. Really impressive. Ween. Straight to hell rubbish.

― bryan, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lester Bowie's Brass Fantasy, Jason & the Scorchers, Long Ryders, Daniel fucking Lanois, Steps, Wire post-1979, Blade, Snuff, the fucking Pogues

Steps are critically acclaimed? What alternate universe are you living in, Marcello? It sounds like an alternate universe I'd enjoy a lot actually. And can't agree more about Dylan (horrible poetry squawked by the most evil larynx in history) and Costello (ugh).

― EdwardO, Thursday, 28 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hey, Mr. Pirateking!!! I'd have to say my favorite Eno is when he couldn't decide whether to write pop songs or soundscapes - mainly, 'Another Green World.'

Vladislav Delay? Christ almighty, man, have you not heard Luomo's (his alter ego) 'Vocalcity'? I just about shit a brick the first time I heard it! And Ned, you best get on that right quick-like. ;-)

― Clarke B., Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Princess Superstar.

― jacob, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Billy Bastard Bragg"

Once again, Carmody and Carlin unite as one.

I actually own an Animals That Swim album, but haven't played it in five and a half years. Best fate for it, really.

I now think The High Llamas after "Hawaii" should be added to that list, if they qualify.

― Robin Carmody, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mogwai seconded, or thirded or whatever. Sounds like Bark Psychosis b-sides to me, only crap. And how the hell did a Mogwai track end up on "Sex and the city" the other week? I nearly fell over in shock.

― Rob M, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Jesus but aren't you guys pretentious as fuck. Did I actually read that someone was rating Yo La Tengo and Sleater-Kinney as "overrated" or too popular? you've gotta be fucking kidding me!! maybe this emo shit thats popular right now can cut it for you, but not me. indie is the absolute way to go, but you can't be pompous about it. that won't get you anywhere with anyone; be prepared to make concessions. as long as the indie 'lifestyle' prevails, you're all good

-young ryan

― ryan peterson, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Holy crap, this guy is right. I've wasted my life!

Really, though, there is a world of difference between "overrated" and "too popular." It's mainly a reaction against the constant critical blowjob certain bands receive for (in the humble opinion of the poster) NO GOOD REASON WHATSOEVER.

― adam, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

*clearing throat sound*MALKMUS*

― Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

indie is the absolute way to go

Hope ya ain't typing this on one of them corporate computers.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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