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Has anyone got this weeks yet? I fancy complaining about something.

Or is there a thread already?

― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

You could always complain about the Q best albums of 2005 list.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Yeah. xpost

1) "Hounds of Love" Futureheads is number one single.

I forget the album.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Bloc Party. Arcade Fire runners-up in both categories. Beyond that... I forget.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Yes, of course. Brain froze.

Arctic monkeys quite high in the single rundown.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Cheers! Well I can't argue with those too much for the NME. Just glad it wasn't Hard-Fi or Kaiser Chiefs at #1. Am planning to get Q and NME (only issue of the year I buy) tomorrow.

Why did they change the Singles of the Year to Tracks of the Year, especially as 'Hounds of Love' was in the tracks list last year. I knew they'd do that last year when I read it. Surely a track of 2005 shouldn't have been recorded in 2004. That's a minor complaint i'm sure compared to the rest of the list no doubt, as long as it's better then 2001's.

― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Well, Graham Coxon's "Freakin Out" was in this years list.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

That's really stupid.

― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Still looking at NME is what's really stupid

― Mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

I need something to complain about though.

― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

50 Test icicles
49 Dead Meadow
48 Ladytron
47 Sleater-Kinney
46 The Duke Spirit
45 Shout Out Louds
44 Field Music
43 Engineers
42 Sigur Ros
41 Nine Black Alps
40 Brakes
39 Vitalic
38 Autolux
37 Circulus
36 The Bravery
35 Elbow
34 Rufus Wainwright
33 We Are Scientists
32 Queens Of The Stone Age
31 Bright Eyes
30 Doves
29 Madonna
28 Absentee
27 Kate Bush
26 Super Furry Animals
25 MIA
24 Oasis
23 Hard-Fi
22 Raveonettes
21 LCD Soundsystem
20 Editors
19 Coldplay
18 Art Brut
17 The Magic Numbers
16 British Sea Power
15 Maximo Park
14 Dungen
13 The Rakes
12 Devendra Banhart
11 The Cribs
10 Gorillaz
9 Babyshambles
8 Kanye West
7 Sufjan Stevens
6 The White Stripes
5 Kaiser Chiefs
4 Antony & The Johnsons
3 Franz Ferdinand
2 Arcade Fire

1 Bloc Party

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Poor Dan Channel 6, sandwiched between Madonna and Kate Bush!

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

No Black Mountain, but they do have Dead Meadow. Are they deaf?

― snotty moore, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Babyshambles at 9?! Like I said, stupid

― Mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

No Black Mountain, but they do have Dead Meadow. Are they deaf?

No, just good taste.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Why did you embolden Circulus?

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Interesting thing here about the NME's chart this year: http://www.londonist.com/archives/2005/11/scoop_nme_album.php#comments

― Jody Jeffcoate (Kaliova), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Because I thought I was the only person in the world who liked them.
I was taken aback they were in the NME list. I suppose thats what happens when I havent bought NME all year.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

best part - they print individual people @ NME pictures and their own lists .. all becomes clearer when you can see into these peoples eyes

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Circulus are the second worst band on that list.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Circulus = most obscure band in top 50? retro-folky-prog ain't exactly your typical NME type band.

They must have listened to Stuart Maconie on Sundays.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

I was just thinking if Funeral was above Bloc Party when the poles were collected they would be swapped. I wonder if Stevens was a lot higher then 7 before. Im guessing the likes of Employment, Stars of CCTV and The New Fellas got bumped at the expense of the less NME endorsed, less cool artists. Notice The Others aren't in there. American artists like Beck, Weezer and Nine Inch Nails not present (not that they should be.)

― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

in at 20 - Editors. Trivia fact Radio 1's Edith Bowman has snared her second British rock singer front man. In 2003 she was in a relationship with Guy Garvey of Elbow. In 2005 she has pounced on Tom Smith of Editors.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

who are these???? (sorry, i'm uhmurrican):

50 Test icicles
46 The Duke Spirit
44 Field Music
43 Engineers
40 Brakes
38 Autolux
37 Circulus
35 Elbow
33 We Are Scientists
28 Absentee
20 Editors
13 The Rakes
11 The Cribs
9 Babyshambles

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

if you go here http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=43453&a=475466 you can watch a short program about Circulus - its in english with swedish subtitles. and the campest presenters ever. the main bloke in Circulus comes across as such a tosser that i'd never buy one of their records. (the Islaja & Josephine Foster programs are great tho, the Dan Treacey one is heartbreaking if you are a fan :( )

― zappi without cookies, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Circulus = most obscure band in top 50? retro-folky-prog ain't exactly your typical NME type band.

I thought they had gone oput on a limb for some time and was quite impressed, until I found out that Coalition did their press. I interviewed the Circulus dude, he seemed nice

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

50 Test icicles - Disheartening "kooky" postpunk Bloc party rip-off.
46 The Duke Spirit - Yank technogothpunks?
44 Field Music - Friends of The Futureheads, with a Beach Boys record.
43 Engineers - Northern modern shoegaze.
40 Brakes - Joke offshoot of British Sea Power, with 1-minute songs about gigs.
38 Autolux - Fuck knows.
37 Circulus - Fuck knows.
35 Elbow - Talk Talk meets Pulp in Manchester.
33 We Are Scientists - Fuck knows.
28 Absentee - Fuck knows.
20 Editors - Interpol without tunes.
13 The Rakes - Fuck knows.
11 The Cribs - Fuck knows.
9 Babyshambles - Libertines mk2.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Shout Out Louds on that list? horribly dull live band, I can't imagine their album to be so much better.
And Get Behind Me Satan was surely one of the more records. And another reason why I don't read NME.

― mox twelve (Mox twleve), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

anyone have the rest of the singles?

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

xhuxk. Tthe majority of those are NME hype bands, some cases are 'quite good' (Rakes,Editors and Cribs) and others aren't (Babyshambles, Test Icicles and The Duke Spirit.)

Have Engineers even been in the NME at all? That album is pretty damn good but not for everyone (NuShoegaze/Talk Talk deel to it.)

The Elbow record is the only great record in that bunch I'd say.

― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

We Are Scientists are XFM favourites, memorably described by a friend as "Liking shit music because it's in the top 10 is one thing. Actively seeking out shit music by new bands is something else"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

50 Test icicles - sub-DFA1979 sort of thing
46 The Duke Spirit - garage blues with a lady singing
44 Field Music - indie
43 Engineers - pompous indie
40 Brakes - twee indie 'supergroup' feat. people in bands you won't care about either
38 Autolux - are from LA are they not? Nu-shoegazing
37 Circulus - prog-folk in costumes a la Gryphon
35 Elbow - swirly shoegazey indie
33 We Are Scientists - NYC band who have no distinguishing features except a complete inability to answer an interview question without sounding like 'zany' cunts
28 Absentee - fuck knows
20 Editors - dreadful fifth-generation Xerox of the Bunnymen
13 The Rakes - bouncy boring indie
11 The Cribs - ditto
9 Babyshambles - Pete out of the Libertines' new band, even less interesting

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Test Icicles = useless unlistenable rubbish loved by British teenagers

46 The Duke Spirit = PJ Harvey Karaoke

44 Field Music = Art-pop-rock think XTC

43 Engineers = overhyped nu shoegazers

40 Brakes = includes British Sea Power member

38 Autolux = American shoegazer revival band

37 Circulus = English Folky-prog rock

35 Elbow = melodic Art-rock band on third album

33 We Are Scientists = no substance hipster band

28 Absentee = never actually heard these lot, they are on English based Memphis Industries label

20 Editors = atmospheric epic post-punk revival they listened to Interpol a couple of years ago

13 The Rakes = can't comment not heard enough

11 The Cribs = rough and ready basic rock n roll. no thanks.

9 Babyshambles = pete libertine's band

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

oh come on everybody knows Babyshambles, they're the new Rolling Stones

38 Autolux - noisy shoegaze/shoegazy noise
33 We Are Scientists - Strokes pt. XIV
13 The Rakes - Edgy postpostpunk, hardly enjoyable, not bad though

― Rizz (Rizz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

The Editors album has already sold 250,000 in the UK. That's... that's actually fucking unbelievable.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

How many 9/10 albums from this year are missing then? I can think of The Others and The Subways. Two piece of shit albums if ever I heard 'em.

― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Editors is okay, all the songs sound the same but they're not bad songs at all.

― Rizz (Rizz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Editors music

― Rizz (Rizz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Question for Dom: how many of those 250,000 also bought The Departure's album?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Oh, these man eating females sucking the life out of poor weak indie types.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Fuck Forever was #6 in the tracks. Jesus.

― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I don't buy Q magazine, but who will list their 2005 top 50 albums first. Someone on ILM or Acclaimed Music?

I wonder hom much the NME and Q have common % wise.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I guess I'd better check out Circulus, eh?

No placing for "black oni"? shame on you, nme.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

NME writers don't know about Guapo - Black Oni

also Simon Reynolds got book of the year for Rip It Up and Start Again

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

ouch

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Re; NME writers don't know about Guapo - Black Oni

also Simon Reynolds got book of the year for Rip It Up and Start Again

Let me guess there were pictures of Bloc Party round a tree getting it in thier stockings.

― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

someone inform Simon Reynolds to contact his business agent & publisher: get the stickers out:

"NME Book of the Year"

They can now market the book at NME teenagers/ early 20s.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

[contoversial uncharitable comment deleted]

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

pshh. The wrong Stevens again.

― naranjito (Koens), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

"Black Oni" is excellent. I bet it's as good as, if not better than anything on that list.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

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soulwax - e talking was brilliant
the remixes and the single.......... ace
not mentioned anywhere......

― jon hall, Friday, 2 December 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

this might interest the hataz: http://www.myspace.com/newmusicalexpress

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 2 December 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and what about "What Car" by Cliff Richard?

Don't forget the NME Readers poll.

Or will they be 'revising' that as well?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 2 December 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

There's just too much music out there! DJ Martian did you really listen to all 50 of your overlooked albums, as well as all the 50 on the NME list? Don't know where you find the time.

― Jim El Buho, Friday, 2 December 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

Where can I find Conn 'em, i mean Connor's anti Londonsit statement? thought the list was a load of shite myself.)

― minx-some, Friday, 2 December 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Agnes Bernelle was a Berlin cabaret singer (I think she just scraped into the golden age of Berlin cabaret as a youngster, certainly that was the impression I'm left with), made a couple of LPs for Demon /Imp in the 80s, the first produced by Costello, the second by Phil Chevron (Pogues / Radiators). The second also boasted a glorious title, "Mother The Wardrobe Is Full of Infantrymen".

Both LPs are worth a listen. I seem to recall the first was made up of originals and old-school Berlin business, while the second had a couple of more recent numbers, including "Broken Bicycles" by Tom Waits, which seems a bit of an obvious move. Costello had his opera singer friend do the same song not too long ago, didn't he?

All of the above should be considered unreliable.

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 2 December 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

I knew there was a Costello connection. Is she anything like Ute Lemper/later Marianne Faithfull?

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

i'm suprised there's no mention of superwolf or vashti bunyan on those lists. or espers. or lots of things.

― peter x (bucksbreeze), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what's sadder.

a) That a load of guys that obviously can't get laid are bitching about a poll published in a magazine written by other guys that can't get laid.

b) That I'm reading their comments

Peace.Out.

― Lionel Minky, Friday, 2 December 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Don't MAKE me post the NME slash.

― Control your ponies, children! (kate), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Billy I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with Ute or later MF but it's kinda growly voiced songs about lowlife joy and misery with variously plinky-plonky backing and the occasional lusty-voiced chourus.

No, it's better than that.

Oh and I recall that the LP of FLDOTIB plays at 45, which I suppose is fairly unusual.

― Tim (Tim), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what's sadder.

a) That a load of guys that obviously can't get laid are bitching about a poll published in a magazine written by other guys that can't get laid.

Well, we can't spend all the time wanking.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

'Most of us aren't organised enough to start a conspiracy' -- Conor 'Fuck! I can hardly write his name without swearing!' McCUNTNichols.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

>>I don't know what's sadder.
a) That a load of guys that obviously can't get laid are bitching about a poll published in a magazine written by other guys that can't get laid.

― Yoko's Dry Cleaner, Friday, 2 December 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Oddly enough I was getting laid while reading this thread.

― Yoko's Dry Cleaner, Friday, 2 December 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

the comments there are 'hilarious':

I remember when the NME was the enemy of the establishment. I mean, they had that Julie Butcher and Tony Slattery working there didn't they?
Posted by Frank White on December 2, 2005 12:38 PM.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

November 30, 2005
SCOOP - NME Album Of The Year
Regrettfully, after a communication from the NME we have decided to remove this post.
Hopefully we'll be able to say more on this later, but please bear with us for now.
Thanks

Rob Hinchcliffe - editor.

http://www.londonist.com/archives/2005/11/scoop_nme_album.php#comments

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

looks like legal action was going to be actioned?

the list may have been a working draft version, with more votes to be added ?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

The thing that strikes me comparing the 1985 list to the current one is the comparative variety of the 85 list - the likes of Miles Davis, Wynton Marsalis, Mathilde Santing, Bryan Ferry and ... Cameo FFS ... rubbing shoulders with the usual indie suspects like New Order and Sonic Youth, whereas the newer lists have been sanitised of anything vaguely off-message. I blame it also on the tight pigeonholing of the media these days - the likes of BBC 6 and MTV 2 hiving off guitar pop-rock away from the general channels, and precluding any crossover with dance, reggae or anything vaguely experimental.

This might to some extent explain why the very great Push the Button by the Chemical Brothers, released in January, has not been mentioned anywhere, nor the singles Galvanise, the Boxer and Believe on any of the fave track lists. Galvanise in particular is a masterful pounding beast of a track, got played to death in Jan and Feb and is my personal track of the year.

― Jim El Buho, Friday, 2 December 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Galvanize is at #45 on the Q readers tracks.

― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Jim El Buho's first paragraph OTM. I mean, it's very possible that I might like a couple the bands I haven't heard who show up on this year's NME list; Banana says he thinks I might like Babyshambles, and though I never had any use for the Libertines, who knows, he might be right. The Cribs could wind up being up my alley, too; you never know. If releases by those bands come my way, I promise to check them out. But even if I like them -- even if I wind up liking half of the bands I never heard before -- the list is still embarrassing and depressing, because with a couple isolated token exceptions (Kanye, Madonna, maybe two or three more depending how you classify things), it basically assumes that indie guitar rock by white people (mostly white British people, it looks like) is the only music that matters, which has been so far from the truth for so fucking long it's not funny--and in fact, the UK rock press may have realized that before Americans did. In 1985, if anything, the NME (and Melody Maker too, as I recall) lists were if anything maybe *more* open-minded than US critics polls; I'd have to compare them back to back to be sure, but that '85 NME list may well put the Pazz and Jop list from the same year to shame. (I know *some* mid '80s Brit-press lists did--for example, UK crits acknowledged early stirrings of dancehall reggae circa "Under Me Sleng Teng" when the US press seemed to completely ignore the stuff.) So that's why I don't buy Dead Kenny's claim that complaints here suggest that "Maybe NME isn't alone in not being as eclectic and open-minded in its tastes as it used to be." *Nothing* on this thread suggests anybody complaining has become more closed-minded than they used to be. But with NME, there is no doubt at all.

― xhuxk, Friday, 2 December 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

hey chuck, you should check out the brakes - they were in the consumer guide. They're kinda like the Traveling Wilburys to British Sea Power's George Harrison or something. I love 'em.

― 'Twan (miccio), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, sounds like I'd HATE them, given my non-love of the Wilburys and British Sea Power both! But yeah, I'll try to check them out too.

xp:
Still, what's kind of fascinating, still (if not nearly as much as it used to be since the lists themselves seem so confining -- assuming NME is typical, anyway, which it may not be) is how British critics' take on the year as so *different* than US critics. I'm always like "Wow, where the hell did all THESE bands come from?" That's cool!

― xhuxk, Friday, 2 December 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

The Guardian picks up the NME Poll rigging story after NME's lawyers clamp down on the Londonist website.

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

*rubs hands with unbridled glee*

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

So that's why I don't buy Dead Kenny's claim that complaints here suggest that "Maybe NME isn't alone in not being as eclectic and open-minded in its tastes as it used to be." *Nothing* on this thread suggests anybody complaining has become more closed-minded than they used to be. But with NME, there is no doubt at all.

Well, in my defence, I suggested *maybe*. I was just trying to reference the fact that towards the top of this thread there seemed to be a lack of knowledge of some of these bands (maybe some of this was ironic?) from several contributors which was perhaps leading to assumptions towards their (lack of) quality.

Like I said, I'm no NME apologist, the list is predominantly one-dimensional mainstream indie, but then it's been a predominantly one-dimensional mainstream indie mag since at least 2001, so where's everyone been?

As for allegations about the list being manipulated, I'm shocked. They should really investigate wrestling next.

― Dead Kenny (Dead Kenny), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

re: so where's everyone been? - mocking them on the worst ever NME front cover thread !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

Re: They should really investigate wrestling next.

Someone should charge Bob Mould for match fixing.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

No McCartney?
No Depeche Mode?

Both made their best albums in years.

Kate Bush and Madonna should have been higher in the list as well (as should Coldplay, but I don't expect anything more from the wannabe-hipsters in NME)

The NME writers are clearly too young. The best albums of 2005 were made by well established acts, but we all know what NME think of established acts.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 3 December 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/culturevulture/archives/2005/12/02/out_of_order.html

Ian is an ilxor?

SURELY!?

― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Saturday, 3 December 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad Field Music made it, considering they will likely be ignored in most U.S. lists.

― darin (darin), Saturday, 3 December 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

Hari, do you mean Iain?

Why do so many people compare the shabby NME who covers dreadful, evil ROCK music, music thats been DEAD for over 20 years to the brilliant Smash Hits? Smash Hits is a great magazine and everything about it is superior to NME and other rock mags.
All the whingers here are just damn boring rockists.
Get with it, ROCK IS DEAD.
Posted by Iain on December 2, 2005 05:46 PM.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 3 December 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

Dunno if he is an ILXOR or not, but what is certain is that he is wrong. I mean, just take a look at what kind of music the kids like these days, at least here in Europe.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 3 December 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Scoop! I managed to get hold of the original NME writers' list and have published it on my blog!

(Unfortunately, the editor of my blog has tampered quite significantly with the list, and what's more the NME's lawyers have been in touch to say that any attempt to reveal the actual music tastes of NME's writers will result in a lawsuit from the NME.)

― Momus (Momus), Saturday, 3 December 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

So we learned, Don't fuck with NME. :rolleyes:

― BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 3 December 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

surely people realise that a poll like this is a marketing exercise for the NME and not a democratic process? otherwise you'd expect, given the nature of music critics, the tail of the list to be full of very subjective entries.

eitherway it's a woefully narrow selection.

― martin (martin), Saturday, 3 December 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

i'm fairly sure there hasn't been a single end-of-year chart in a single music magazine in history which hasn't been manipulated in some way. i just kinda took it as read that if loads of the choices didn't fit with the magazine's overall aesthetic, they'd be bumped down the chart before the final cut. sad but true, i guess, but not necessarily worth sweating over.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Sunday, 4 December 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

interesting quote from former nme staffer mate of mine:

"As regards the NME writers' poll, yep, it was always jigged when I was there. If it was a readers' poll I could understand the fuss, but when it's compiled by the writers, really, what's the problem? It certainly isn't anything to do with advertising or owt (or certainly wasn't when I was there). It's more to do with things like some people just forgetting certain albums came out sometimes and forgetting to vote for them, simple as that.

"It really is a lot of fuss about nowt. Where's the fuss about the Q albums of the year writers' poll? They gave it to Coldplay. That's funny, 'cos I'm sure they gave the writers' album award to Oasis at their awards a couple of months ago didn't they?"

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Sunday, 4 December 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

WHAT DO FANS OF HOPE OF THE STATES THINK ABOUT ALL OF THIS?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

Q singles list:

100 Push The Button Sugababes

This really is just adding insult to injury.

2001 ws when the worm turned, no Avalanches (despite being an album of the month) and 11-20 was better then the top 10

...no. Great albums in the top ten: 3,4,7. Great albums in the next 10: 17.

Pual Whitehouse was at the Circulus gig last month! Okay, he was only there because Terry Edwards was in the support band.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 5 December 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

RE; ...no. Great albums in the top ten: 3,4,7. Great albums in the next 10: 17.

and 5,9 and 10 are useless where as 11,12,13,16 and 18 are better then 7 and 8.

― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Monday, 5 December 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

re. 'galvanize', great track obv, but i think the nme's review of the lp was based on the notion 'dance is dead'. no-one's saying the chemical bros are on the cutting edge, but oasis made their poll, so...

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 5 December 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

and 5,9 and 10 are useless where as 11,12,13,16 and 18 are better then 7 and 8.

Haha sorry, I meant 3,4,9. Andrew WK is useless?

I have no problem with your second sentence (apart form FUCK NO, ELBOW?? but you're probably used to that by now), but they all fall into the considerable gap between the Mercury Rev album and the lower reaches of Great.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 5 December 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

When are the NME Awards? Won't they have to give out the albums of year award to Bloc Party there?
I bet Arcade Fire don't turn up.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Art Brut outheart you all.

― conditionals, Friday, 9 December 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

re. 'galvanize', great track obv, but i think the nme's review of the lp was based on the notion 'dance is dead'.

I wonder if the record being crap may also have had any influence

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 9 December 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

a logical conundrum, cos a) the track is not crap and b) the nme *likes* crap.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 9 December 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

they only like crap rock not crap dance

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 9 December 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Autolux!! The only pleasant surprise in this entire thread.

― billstevejim (billstevejim), Friday, 9 December 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

microdisney were irish and a great band. they spawned the awesome cathal coughlan. he started fatima mansions when m/d split. go back and re-listen to their stuff. i implore you.

― chris shaw, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

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