Ghostface set to release new album "Fish Scale" in December (the title supposedly refers to the purest form of cocaine)

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And I have nothing to say about this album that is not contained in the thread title!

Lukas (lukas), Sunday, 4 December 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://machtalchemy.com/supah_funny_trasho_magic_halloween2005/jason_hangingout_with_ghostface_killah.JPG

jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 4 December 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

who got dat jaxon laden weed?

amon (eman), Sunday, 4 December 2005 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck... the.. frail shit
Uh, cuz when my coke come in
They gotta use the scales that they weigh the whales with

A fish scale is what one uses to weigh coke with.

I never thought i'd say this but i'm a tad bored with the whole coke/mafioso rap thing. I'd rather Ghostface continue the righteous thug persona of "pretty toney" but perhaps add some of the of "supreme clientele" styled lyrical craziness than revert back to '95 "only built for cuban linx" coked out steez. If you've heard those weak new Raekwon tracks with the same ol' tired Scarface samples for "only bulit for cuban linx 2" then you'll know what i mean. I like to hear Ghost threatening and talking shit about other rappers on tracks and sex, drugs, money and guns are the 4 elementz of this rap shit, yo, but what i really wanna hear is more tracks like "childs play", "the sun", "holla", "love" and "my guitar"..tracks that only someone like Ghostface can do without them coming off trite. Certainly more interesting in '05 than another Gotti/Montana fantasy which he did to perfection years ago and has been played out by every shitbird N.Y rapper fronting like they sold coke for Alpo or Supreme on mixtapes since then.

I was feelin' his verse on A.Z's "new york" with Raekwon but the other new tracks of his i've heard haven't really hit me like Ghostface tracks usually do. Not sure if it's him or me, though.

ELLI$, Sunday, 4 December 2005 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

Busy month for him, this comes out this week:

GHOSTFACE KILLAH-Put It On The Line 2LP/CD+DVD (Full Clip/FCM6001)
“Ghostface is back killing ‘em in the ‘05! Teamed up with the furious stylings of Trife Da God, Wu-Tang’s Wally Champ is taking heads with a 2LP/CD+DVD aptly titled Put It On The Line. The 2LP/CD features murderous material strapped with the grimy beats and ruthless deliveries that earned them the legion of fans that this disc was designed for. Although Ghost and Trife are all the listener needs, Kool G Rap swings through for a quick clinic on how to annihilate the marks and the narcs. Other guests include Raekwon, Slick Rick, and The RZA. On the DVD [with the CD only], you can witness over 40 plus minutes of live footage featuring Ghostface performing in NYC at BB King’s in early October 2005 (that’s right, October of this year) with the GZA, Cappadona, Masta Killah, Trife Da God, and many more Wu-Henchmen! Tony Starks is here!�

Vic Funk, Sunday, 4 December 2005 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

Doom is on a track.

Leeroy, Sunday, 4 December 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

Ellis pretty much otm

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 5 December 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

ain't comin' out in December, hell I'll be surprised if it drops first quarter 06

Al (sitcom), Monday, 5 December 2005 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

There's been like no promo and (not surprisingly) the (sorta okay) single prod. by Pete Rock is underperforming. Compared to "Tush." Which also underperformed. It's all relative.

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 5 December 2005 07:27 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone know what the sample is for Tush? after i walked away from him not really saying more than "hey, what are you doing in town? cool, well just wanted to say i'm a fan", i shoulda asked him that question

jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 5 December 2005 07:43 (nineteen years ago)

elli$ - OTM

okok, Monday, 5 December 2005 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
4CAST Limited presents 1,000 Limited Edition
hand-numbered Ghostface Killah 9" Vinyl Figures.

Each Ghostface Killah doll includes:

- Real 14 karat gold chain
- Real GFK Robe
- Gold Chalice with Swarovski crystals
- Each doll will include a Ghostface Killah Doll mixtape dy a world-famous DJ tba
- Real 14 karat gold avenging eagle accessory (extra)
- Each collector will have a 1 in 500 chance to spend a day with Ghostface Killah himself
- Each Doll will come in a limited edition gold sealed box
- Ghostface Killah is fully involved in all aspects of the project from manufacturing to promotion
- Each Doll speaks original recordings of Ghostface Killah catch-phrases

http://www.theghostfacedoll.com/main.html

DR. O. RLY? (eman), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.theghostfacedoll.com/images/gallery/images/doll.jpghttp://www.theghostfacedoll.com/images/gallery/images/doll3.jpg

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

DR. O. RLY? (eman), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

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DR. O. RLY? (eman), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://home.comcast.net/~muscletoys/pinkpack.jpg

DR. O. RLY? (eman), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Def Jam says the album's coming out at the end of February now.

I thought Jay-Z promised him a bunch of promo and no revolving release dates and so on?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

i always thought that fishscale cocaine referred to the best coke because the best coke has that scaly, glistening quality to it. otherwise, i agree with ellis.

...and we'll be lucky to see the album in february.

s>c>, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

four weeks pass...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/kris_stivers/ghostface.jpg

Ohhhhhh, THAT'S the kind of fishscale he meant.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 03:22 (nineteen years ago)

NICE!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

Great cover.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

So he's officially re-added the Killah, then?

telephone thing, Friday, 27 January 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

thats some cheesy ass def jam-type shit alrite

|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l| (ema, Friday, 27 January 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

i was gonna say, it's kinda 1990-looking.

stockholm cindy (winter version) (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 27 January 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000E97HB2.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

...is what's on Amazon (US). I have to admit I like the one with the fish a hell of a lot more.

telephone thing, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

The first one has a much better hat on. He looks more like a cokehead than a cokedealer in the second.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

the typography of fishScale is kinda mesmerizing

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

He needs THE GIANT FURRY HAT from the "Run" video!

I like the first cover better even if its a bit grainy.

R. J. Greene, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

dood the first cover is SO MUCH BETTER gimmeabreak

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

take the typography of the first and slap it on the second

|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l| (eman), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

I disagree - the gaff and knife are great.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
i want to hear this so bad
http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/2006/02/preview_ghostfa_1.php

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 20 February 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

just got the Theodore Unit album yesterday - thx for the rec guys, good shit.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 February 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

have you heard "put it on the line" shakey?

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 20 February 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

even if gutting fish was the cover, it would still run a distant third to shopping for clown-colored loafers and Chef flipping an omelette in a silk robe the morning after.

Beta (abeta), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

haha

SnakeShit ;] (eman), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

I met Ghostface Killah about two weeks ago. For a man who goes by the name "Ghostface Killah," he was most cordial.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

God, I am so stoked for this album!! I hope it delivers.

Harpal (harpal), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

How much money would I pay for the dvd of Ghost talking about his songs? (Not much, but I'd think it would be a hoot.)

Englebert Humperdinck Fan Club President (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

one of my fave moments was when i was backstage at the Jay-Z farewell show at MSG, watching Mary J. sing. realized i was also smack dab between Pharrell on one side and Ghost on the other. he had on a hubcap-sized Jesus medallion and a purp robe with Theo Dini scripted across it.

Beta (abeta), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

see, all these names they come up with. they're perfect. i wish i was called Theo Dini for chrissakes

i'd pay for ghost babbling about his songs

rizzx (Rizz), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

good VV article. made me hungry for jerk chicken + booze + ghostface.

Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

That is a deadly combo Lukas. Alex I am jealous xxxxxxxxpost.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Alittle disappointed on this one.
There are a few good songs (kilos, be easy, a few others) but the rest seems pretty weak and unfinished.
I was hoping it would kill after all the hype.
Not feeling the MF DOOM beats. I hope he didn't pay much for the samples because they are pretty boring loops and chops.
I think it's spotty like all ghostface albums.
One day he'll make a great greatest hits album.

Also, give me the first cover.

hit ihd n, Monday, 27 February 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

I strongly disagree with you, I think it's his best album since "Ironman", and thats from listening to 14 of the (supposed) 19.

"The Champ", "Can Can", "Shakey Dot", "9 Mill Bros", "Kilos", all classic. I like every song (except the chorus to "Back Like That", but it's growing on me) and would definitely say that it's my personal favourite Ghostface album so far.

But each to their own.

Erock LAzron, Monday, 27 February 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

And yeah, the first cover is better

Erock LAzron, Monday, 27 February 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ "best since Ironman"

This will be really really overhyped but I do like the song about how he used to get a belt to the backside, that shit is good. I don't like how he fell into indie producer doldrums, it was better when he was doing his own thing.

I ran a mile to Daytona 500 today. SC is still his best.

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 27 February 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

I do like the song about how he used to get a belt to the backside, that shit is good.

this is on Jay Dee's Donuts as "One For Ghost". i loved it then, but didnt' pay attention to the song title. makes sense now

team jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 27 February 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

I said "Best since Ironman" because "Supreme Clientele" doesn't really do it for me as an album. It's decent, but not the Ghost album I'd put on first if I had to pick one.

Erock LAzron, Monday, 27 February 2006 04:45 (nineteen years ago)

b-b-but Pretty Toney!

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 27 February 2006 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

this is on Jay Dee's Donuts as "One For Ghost". i loved it then, but didnt' pay attention to the song title. makes sense now

Although the beat is good, its definitely Ghost that makes this one for me; this is like his All That I Got Is You-childhood details moments that sound so incredibly powerful, clearly his unique voice in the narrative, but its got a narrative.

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 27 February 2006 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

I think its because she didn't want a guy who was a thug, and seeing the gun fall out of his waistband destroyed the good impression she had of him.

Rodney's motives are beyond the comprehension of men (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 6 April 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was him robbing her. It reminded me of the opening scene in Sin City.

s>c>, Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

nah, he's not in that mindframe during this song. imo

rizzx (Rizz), Thursday, 6 April 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

I think he's totally in that mindframe BUT he sorta falls for her as he approaches BUT then he robs her anyway

Renard (Renard), Thursday, 6 April 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

the lyrics don't give any hints in that direction though. i think it really is just him falling for a girl at the busstop

"I never rush one, here take my number miss
I live alone, her face fell when I dropped the chrome
Damn, can I have YOUR number? {*bus pulls away*}
"

rizzx (Rizz), Thursday, 6 April 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

maybe you should consult rza's wu tang manual

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 6 April 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

ts: dropping the chrome vs oops i dropped my chrome

Renard (Renard), Thursday, 6 April 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

when you drop chrome, do you pick it up with a bend... and snap?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 7 April 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

i saw ghost on the cover of FADER. that mag looks like garbage. the title is appropriate for ghost's direction into homogeny

mono tony, Friday, 7 April 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

Nice. Good answers. My problem was having no clue chrome = gun. I was thinking watch or something. Duh. I'm gonna have to agree with Rodney & Rizz. Plus, I hated Sin City, so that's not helping matters any.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 7 April 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't he dropping his (chrome) change in the machine for bus fare?

dan. (dan.), Friday, 7 April 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I have to say I love the line "Her voice was a slow jam". Totally evocative. That line jumps out at me every time I hear this song.

Rodney's motives are beyond the comprehension of men (R. J. Greene), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

The rest, the string of commerical cliches, is pretty tired though. It's like "I saw this girl at the bus stop, everything she's wearing screams upper reaches of affordable and she smokes like she's in the movies, I think I'm in love!"

dan. (dan.), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

ain't comin' out in December, hell I'll be surprised if it drops first quarter 06
-- Al (hoteloper...), December 4th, 2005 11:06 PM.

haha well, I was wrong, but only by 3 days.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

x-post to Dan
Whatever dude, this is one of the best songs on the album. And "commercial" is one of the stupidest phrases you can apply to music.

Rodney's motives are beyond the comprehension of men (R. J. Greene), Friday, 7 April 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

commercial as in ripped right from the ad

dan. (dan.), Friday, 7 April 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

maybe he name-dropped chrome and she didnt know who they were

dhjask, Friday, 7 April 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

Dan your complaints would make sense if he wasn't completely fucking detailed in his descriptions of this woman. Plus, with the repeated "uh" I think some speechlessness is part of the point.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 7 April 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Just because he's completely detailed doesn't mean the details are any good.

dan. (dan.), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

OMG! MALE RAPPERS SHOUDLN'T RAP ABOUT WOMEN OR THEY'RE SELLOUTS!!!!

Rodney's motives are beyond the comprehension of men (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

Don’t be a dick. Where on this thread did anyone say anything resembling that?

dan. (dan.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Don’t be a dick. Where on this thread did anyone say anything resembling that? Is the word commercial that loaded?

dan. (dan.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

Just because he's completely detailed doesn't mean the details are any good.

mono tony, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Never called him a sellout. Just don't like the ONE song cause because the lines are wrote.

dan. (dan.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

rote

dan. (dan.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Time is revealing the flaws -- too many damn skits and like someone said way upthread not enough confusing slang to make the lyrics as fun as, say, Supreme Clientele, which beats this record by a LOT.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 13 April 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

Whenever I hear "The Champ" all I can think of is John Cena's entrance music.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

wow, the price point on this one is ridiculously low. $8 on amazon.com. what's up with that?

amateurist0, Tuesday, 25 April 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

I think "Be Easy" is comin thru as my favorite track. But that may be just cuz it makes me nostalgic for early 90s NYC beats

yeah i like it cuz it's so stripped down but with a jackrabbit beat. definitely my favorite chorus on the album, at least.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

Xgau weighs in:

GHOSTFACE KILLAH
Fishscale
(Def Jam)
With the crack trade making its hip-hop comeback, Ghost fashions a trend record that ranks with any Biggie or Wu CD. Morally, it's a retrospective—there's no attempt to convince us that he's still in the game or wants to return. But neither will he countenance doubt that he knows whereof he speaks. The stories are as vivid, brutal, and thought-out as any noir, with details that both encompass and surpass the wisdom of "pyrex scholars." This is a guy with a bald spot who likes cranberry Snapple, Larry King Live, and women who work for JetBlue. When he asks his boo to turn the flame down a little, he says thank you. His high wail renders extreme anxiety beautiful. And before the music settles into a powerfully souled and sampled Clan-type groove, its screeching intensity has a Nation of Millions feel. A PLUS

J. Sot (dogbrute...), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 06:23 (nineteen years ago)

i bought this. i like big girl and back like that. the rest is boring as fuck.

333333333333 (33333), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Xgau at the Ghostface show Saturday night. He looked befuddled, walked down the wrong hallway before making it into the actual performance space. We spoke briefly about nothing much.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and the show was kinda disappointing. Bad sound, too many hypemen onstage, etc., etc. Typical hip-hop show failures.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

Be Easy ... definitely my favorite chorus on the album

the eBay line kinda spoils it for me, too corny

Renard (Renard), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

i think it's funny! sounds like kid 'n' play or something.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
Fucking awful interview in the Onion

http://www.avclub.com/content/node/48535

this part's kinda funny:

AVC: You were one of the first Wu-Tang Clan members to work with a producer other than RZA. How did that come about?

GK: Nothing, man. You gotta do what you gotta do. RZA don't gotta be making my beats all day. You gotta fuck around, spread your wings. RZA got fuckin' too many artists to put out on his own. I ain't gotta use him every time I make an album and shit. Yo, any good beats will do. There are mad people out there with good beats. That's like saying that you gotta fuck the same bitch all day. There's mad bitches outside, mad pussy out there, that's better than the pussy that you got. C'mon!

Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

AVC: Who are your favorite rappers?

GK: A lot of old-school rappers. Rakim, Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane, Biz Markie, Slick Rick, Doug E. Fresh, Public Enemy, even NWA when they came out with their first album. Brand Nubian, A Tribe Called Quest, Gang Starr. All the Nice & Smooth. The whole list. It just goes on. The world was really, back then, rockin' the Fat Boys, Run DMC, Special Ed. Back then, everything was cool. Steady B from Philly. It was all good. All the old school. The whole Juice Crew. Roxanne Shante, EPMD, MC Lyte.

anybody on ilm who talked like Ghost is talkin' here would get called on the carpet for questionable taste in rap before he even hit "submit"

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

what?!? pfft all that shit is great.

terrible interview though.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

Pete Rockism Shockah! ....and yeah, bad interview.

Dr. Rodney's Original Savannah Band (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

gfk has gotta be taking the piss in that interview, but the interviewer didn't follow up on the more interesting responses either.

a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 18 May 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

AVC: Who are some of your favorite soul artists?

GK: [No answer.]

translation: Rabin, you suck

Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Thursday, 18 May 2006 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
good album for a sluggish late summer - hot, humid, drunk

Lukas (lukas), Saturday, 12 August 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
OMG OMG OMG

Ghostface in London!

g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 4 September 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

In Amsterdam!

JoB (JoB), Monday, 4 September 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
this might be the best review ive read of this album, and im more inclined to believe it since its not from the usual trad-rap contingent:
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0618,tate,73066,22.html

tom breihan thinks this is the 4th best ghostface album but i think its a toss up between this and pretty toney for his 5th best.

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 12:46 (eighteen years ago)

"more fish" is getting released soon isn't it? guessing from the title its leftovers from fishscale

am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

out in a few weeks
good cover from what i saw on the village voice blog - i hope they keep it and dont change it to a boring one like they did with fishscale

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/U86Qm75DoYsY_11202006_160435.jpg

RODNEY HAVE TOO MANY EMOTHINS!!! (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

Urgh. That came out smaller than it went in. (haha that sounds funny)

RODNEY HAVE TOO MANY EMOTHINS!!! (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago)

Guests on the new Amy Winehouse single.

danny boy (danny boy), Thursday, 23 November 2006 06:50 (eighteen years ago)


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