Has anyone ever pointed out how much ____________ is blatantly influenced by ____________

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I ask because I genuinely don't know, but these seem pretty clear to me. Who else?

1. Pink Floyd's "Wish You Wre Here," Van Morrisson's "Almost Independence Day"

2. Big Star, The James Gang

― Fashion Age, Monday, 5 December 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

Madonna's "Frozen", Björk "Jóga"

If maybe not that exact song (don't have 'Frozen' on disc to compare right now) it plainly cops massively, and shamelessly from Homogenic's sound pallete which has always pissed me off HUGELY, yet nobody ever points it out? Considering the favour she did for her on her earlier record (i.e. Bedtime Stories)... way to show gratitude.

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 5 December 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

Bis Star/James Gang is interesting.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 5 December 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

Totally, in the vocals, the harmonies...Rides Again is, in places, practically the blueprint for Radio City. Has Chilton ever acknowledged Joe Walsh? (Does ANYONE? i mean, the man is seriously underrated. Neil Hagerty fans would be wise to dive into Joe's back catalog pronto!)

― Fashion Age, Monday, 5 December 2005 02:53 (twenty years ago)

Bis Star = surprisingly appealing mash-up concept.

― Guayaquil (eephus), Monday, 5 December 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

rapture "house of jealous lovers" by pil "memories"

― lf, Monday, 5 December 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and: Refrigerator's "Lonesome Surprise", "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'" by Velvet Underground.

― Guayaquil (eephus), Monday, 5 December 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

Suede's "Filmstar, T.Rex's "Children of the Revolution".

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 5 December 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)

o fu

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Monday, 5 December 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

Pink Floyd's "Wish You Wre Here," Van Morrisson's "Almost Independence Day"

how so? i'm curious

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 5 December 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

a lot of crappy underground rappers sound like eachother. the same thing with screamo bands. they figured out the 'sound' of today and feel comfortable only when emulating that sound

― Robin Samples (Robin Samples), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)

Pink Floyd's "Wish You Wre Here," Van Morrisson's "Almost Independence Day"

how so? i'm curious

The opening guitar bit of Almost Independence Day is very similar to that of Wish You Were Here. You can sing the lyrics to the first song over the intro to the second. Van's song kicks the ass of the Pink Floyd one, though.

― clotpoll, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)

i dunno, the particular phrase you're referring to doesn't seem unique enough for there to be an obvious line of influence.

i like both songs. i like the moog (?) sounds on van morrison's tune a lot.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

...but if you want to do a medley i think that'd be cool.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

The theme music to "The Office" (British version) is the _exact_ same as the intro to "Theme For An Imaginary Western" by Jack Bruce. I would have just assumed they used TFAIW as the theme song, but then after a few seconds the Office theme starts to sound different. Maybe the Office theme song samples TFAIW, but idk. Anyway, this is my pet theory. I will YSI them both later so everyone can judge for themselves.

Also, I would suggest Underneath Your Clothes by Shakira rips off Eternal Flame by the Bangles, but I'm sure it's been pointed out.

Oh, and another one: "I'm Dizzy" by Tommy Roe (sp?) v. "I'm Free" by The Who. I'm no music theorist so I can't explain in detail how they are both alike, but the way the notes jump back and forth after he sings "Making me dizzy" versus how they go after Daltrey goes "I'm free" are really similar. Anyway, I'm checking right now and both songs came out in 1969, so who knows who influenced who.

― musically (musically), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

"Final Solution" by Pere Ubu, "Summertime Blues" (more likely the Blue Cheer or Who version than Eddie Cochran's, but you never know)

― james, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

dude - ilxor ZR just pointed that one out to me the other day, james!

― petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

The Office theme tune is called Handbags & Gladrags and was first released by Chris Farlowe in 1967, 2 years before the Jack Bruce song you mentioned. I've no idea whether that fact has any bearing on anything because I haven't heard either of those versions and they might have nicked the intro later on for all I know.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Interesting, Colonel Poo! I need to check out that song. I would suggest that Bruce lifted the beginning arrangement from Farlowe but a quick AMG search says Bruce is the only person credited with writing TFAIW. Oh, the mystery...

― musically (musically), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

I think the Office uses the Rod Stewart version which came out in 1969, same year as Jack Bruce song, so could be either way really. Or a complete coincidence.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Pavement, "Silence Kit" and Buddy Holly "Everyday"

― James, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

I think I've posted this before, but...

VU's "There She Goes Again" by Dylan's "One of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later)" (vocal delivery only) (alt: "Most Likely You'll Go Your Way and I'll Go Mine")

― A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Bruce Springsteen's State Trooper and Suicide's Frankie Teardrop

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Sugar "Granny Cool" and the Move "Doo Ya"

― James, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

"Final Solution" by Pere Ubu, "Summertime Blues" (more likely the Blue Cheer or Who version than Eddie Cochran's, but you never know)

-- james

That's more of a blatant homage/answer than a an unacknowledged influence, isn't it? (Kinda like "My Dark Ages" and "I Get Around".) But the coda was probably influenced by Hawkwind's "Space Is Deep." And still on the Ubu tip (since you're obviously a fan), "Heart Of Darkness" possibly got it's bassline from "Yoo Doo Right" (Can).

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

Franz Ferdinand, Hanoi Rocks

― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Without Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here", Phil Collins would never have written "I Wish It Would Rain Down".

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

Bruce Springsteen's State Trooper and Suicide's Frankie Teardrop

I don't think anyone who has heard both versions of these songs HASN'T noticed this. Springsteen himself acknowledged the influence, etc.

― Clay (cws), Thursday, 8 December 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

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