Is there an official PAZZ & JOPP 2005 THREAD or should we just use old, vaguely related threads to talk about it?

(Already voted but I need to think up something vaguely interesting for the comments.)

1. Depeche Mode, Playing the Angel
2. New Order, Waiting For The Sirens' Call

Singles:

1. Depeche Mode, "Precious"
2. New Order, "Krafty"

3. Bloc Party, "Banquet"

I think trying to overexplain all your specific votes as some sort of general comment on the State of the World is a mug's game. In this case I'm only planning to talk about compilations and how this year seemed to almost drown in them (a good thing).

Alfred's prediction on the albums is accurate but the singles votes are off -- they are 2 and 3 instead. ;-) xpost -- Jaymc's almost got it! "Banquet" was my number one single, but I didn't vote for Silent Alarm as an album if only because I didn't play it as much as the "Banquet" EP straight up.

I must be more jealous than you, because whenever I read the comments, I invariably think that I could do better than 90% of what's out there if I was passing a basketball-sized kidney stone. And, um, if I actually bothered to sit down & write something (& put my words where my ego went).

1) you loved music instead of hated it
2) you loved fun instead of hated it
3) you felt this would be a fine way to counteract the dispiriting effects of 9/11

I found this line of argument uncompelling.

oh wait, that was last year.

no wait, sorry, the year before.

my bad, it was the year before that.

ad infinitum

1. M.I.A. - Arular - XL (23)
2. The Hold Steady - Separation Sunday - Frenchkiss (22)
3. The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (20)
4. Kanye West - Late Registration - Roc-a-Fella (5)
5. A Frames - Black Forest - Sub Pop (5)
6. DJ Koze - Kosi Comes Around - Kompakt (5)
7. The Go-Betweens - Oceans Apart - Yep Roc (5)
8. Crazy Frog - Crazy Frog Presents Crazy Hits - Next Plateau/Universal (5)
9. Kiki & Herb - Kiki & Herb Will Die for You - Evolver (5)
10. DangerDoom - The Mouse and the Mask - Epitaph (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Three 6 Mafia ft. Young Buck, Eightball & MJG - Stay Fly - Hypnotize Minds/Columbia
2. Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings - How Long Do I Have to Wait for You? - Daptone
3. The Legendary K.O. - George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People - MP3
4. Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley - Welcome to Jamrock - Universal/Tuff Gong
5. Brad Paisley - Alcohol - Arista Nashville
6. The Field - Love vs. Distance - Kompakt
7. Paul Wall ft. Big Pokey - Sittin' Sideways - Atlantic
8. Capone - U So Craaazzzy - Fastlife
9. Kanye West - Hey Mama - Roc-a-Fella
10. Of Montreal - Wraith Pinned to the Mist and Other Games - Polyvinyl

(but boo: you people and your "Stay Fly" love)

Yay! I'm glad I'm not the only one who voted for this. I hope lots of people do. And you know, I never saw them perform, so if anyone's wondering if it works just as an album, oh yeah. In its way I think it's the most -- and best -- punk record of the year. And even though I don't listen to the monologuey bits every time through, they're great too.

xpost: Tim, that is shocking

1. Paul McCartney, Chaos & Creation in the Backyard

Absolutely nobody will guess my number ten selection for albums or singles.

Albums
10. Scott Stapp - The Great Divide - Sony

Singles
10. Ying Yang Twins - Wait (The Whisper Song) (Chopped & Screwed by Michael "5000" Watts for the Swisha House) - TVT

I am a total horse.

"With apologies to Mike Doskocil for unauthorized use of one of his more memorable lines, the following are CSTB’s in-house picks for the year’s finest popular recordings:

Sun Kil Moon - Tiny Cities Made Of Ashes (Calo Verde)
The Dirtbombs - If You Don’t Already, Have A Look (In The Red)
Spoon - “I Summon You” (Merge)
Bob Mould - “Paralyzed” (Yep Roc)
Sensational - Speaks For Itself (Quartermass)
Howard Hello - “More Of The Same” (Temporary Residence)
Boards Of Canada - “Dayvan Cowboy” (Warp)
Jason Forrest- Shamelessly Exciting (Sonig)
The Futureheads - “Man Ray” (Sire)
John Parish - ‘Once Upon A Little Time’ (Thrill Jockey)
Pissed Jeans - Shallow (Parts Unknown)
Tom Sharpling & Jon Wurster - Hippy Justice (Stereolaffs)
The Rebel - Kit (Hook Or Crook)

Please note that titles associated with any of CSTB’s business interests (with one exception) were ineligible. If you’d like to submit your own list via our comments section, please, feel free to do so. Unless you were planning on including the Hold Steady, in which case you can fuck off."

In a more intelligent universe we wouldn't have junkies and hoodrats and lots of mixed-up kids making mixed-up decisions so the Hold Steady would have to write all their songs about, I don't know, how tasty hamburgers are or something.

SINGLES:
1. Robyn -- "Be Mine!" (but only if it gets released somewhere where they speak English in 2006)
2. Young Jeezy -- "Trap Star"
3. Marion Raven -- "Break You" (the alb is being released in Denmark this month, so I can count this as 2006, since I didn't vote for it yet)
4. Marion Raven -- "The End of Me" (ditto)
5. Beyoncé -- "Check On It"
6. Amy Diamond -- "What's In It for Me?"
7. Veronicas -- "4Ever"
8. Morningwood -- "Nth Degree"

ALBUMS:
Electric Six -- Señor Smoke
Marion Raven -- Here I Am (this vote being contingent on my actually hearing the entire album and liking it)

everyone in mpls that saw them "back then" said they were like a force of nature live.

i only saw them after grave dancers and they were lame live.

i believe pazz n jop's street date is feb 1 (next week)...

Thank you for your submission - your votes have been recorded.

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Jesu - Jesu - Hydra Head (18)
2. Manegarm - Vredens Tid - Displeased (14)
3. Pantheist - Amartia - Firedoom (12)
4. M.I.A - Arular - XL (11)
5. Louis XIV - The Best Little Secrets Are Kept - Atlantic (10)
6. DangerDoom - The Mouse And The Mask - Epitaph (9)
7. Early Man - Closing In - Matador (8)
8. Blueprint - 1988 - Rhymesayers (7)
9. Midnattsol - Where Twilight Dwells - Napalm (6)
10. Witchcraft - Firewood - Candlelight (5)

Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

You didn't submit any singles

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I changed my votes for a later deadline. I forgot The Epoxies so that was on the list, bumping the Witchcraft disc.

(Geeta, did you get my email?)

i only saw them after grave dancers and they were lame live.

the first time I ever went to Minneapolis I was having lunch at 7th St and we started talking about Soul Asylum and I opined that they sucked mega-ballz, and the waitress heard me and (I later learned) was very pissed off because she was dating the singer

yes i did! about to respond!

email xhuxk and let him know how you roll

2 Boyz N Da Hood Boyz N Da Hood
Bad Boy ********* incredible lyrical album

3 Various Artists Big Boi Presents . . . Got Purp? Vol. 2
Virgin ******** still nice but dont jam too much lately

4 DJ Drama & P$C The Indictment
mixtapekings.com ******* shoulda been #1

5 C-Murder The Truest $#!@ I Ever Said
Tru/Koch ******** i never listen to this

6 Young Jeezy DJ Drama Presents Young Jeezy: Trap Or Die
Mixtape ****** hate it or love it a hood classic

7 DJ Judgemental & 334 Mobb Here In Da Gutta Vol. 1
Blackdrop Entertainment ********* i still play this

8 Dayton Family Family Feud
Fastlife ******** this not so much

9 Webbie Savage Life
Trill/Asylum ******* didnt fuck with this for like 6 mos but pulled it out last month & its still hot

10 Various Artists Street Certified Vol. 1
Big Cat ******* got like 6 of the best songs from last year on it

1 Three 6 Mafia Featuring Young Buck & Eightball & MJG Stay Fly
Columbia ********* of course

2 Geto Boys G-Code
Rap-A-Lot 4 Life/Asylum ******** so underrated

3 Marley, Damian "Jr. Gong" Welcome to Jamrock
Tuff Gong/Universal ******* incredible song

4 T.I. ASAP
Grand Hustle/Atlantic ******* all day, shoulda put the remix on

5 Eightball & MJG Featuring Scarface Phacade
UNKNOWN ******** love this

6 Purple Ribbon All-Stars Kryptonite
Virgin ****** perfect

7 Common Featuring The Last Poets The Corner
Geffen ****** never ever play this now but loved it at the time

8 T.I. Featuring Pastor Troy & Lil' Weavah Atlanta
UNKNOWN ****** this is the shit

9 Fantasia Baby Mama
J **** great song but zzzz, was on the radio when i filled out my ballot

10 Born Wit It Fresh
UNKNOWN ****** classic track, wish it was a hit

2. The Hold Steady - Separation Sunday - Frenchkiss (22)
I play selected tracks but still love the whole

3. The Mountain Goats - The Sunset Tree - 4AD (20)
haven't played in a while but undiminished

4. Kanye West - Late Registration - Roc-a-Fella (5)
if I had voted in Jan-Feb I'd have made it no. 2 or 3

5. A Frames - Black Forest - Sub Pop (5)
haven't played in a while

6. DJ Koze - Kosi Comes Around - Kompakt (5)
should play this one a bit more often, definitely a headphones album for me

7. The Go-Betweens - Oceans Apart - Yep Roc (5)
I was saying even before McLennan died that this would be my no. 1 if I were voting again after the fact. just gets deeper and better w/time

8. Crazy Frog - Crazy Frog Presents Crazy Hits - Next Plateau/Universal (5)
I don't regret voting for this! I still think it's funnier than shit and, in its own way, conceptually perfect, but it's really a 19th or 20th album, not an 8th

9. Kiki & Herb - Kiki & Herb Will Die for You - Evolver (5)
Not a casual album by any means (it's two-and-a-half hours of live show w/o visuals) but still, I could enjoy it anytime

10. Run the Road - Vice (5)
Only voted for this because I didn't trust my jazz tastes enough to list William Parker's incredible Sound Unity. I stopped playing it by mid-'05 and wouldn't swear it's as good as I thought at the time, but I should give it a try sometime to see how I feel

SINGLES
1. Three 6 Mafia ft. Young Buck, Eightball & MJG - Stay Fly - Hypnotize Minds/Columbia
duh

2. Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings - How Long Do I Have to Wait for You? - Daptone
still rips

3. The Legendary K.O. - George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People - MP3
yeah, I still like this a lot

4. Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley - Welcome to Jamrock - Universal/Tuff Gong
no diminishment at all

5. Brad Paisley - Alcohol - Arista Nashville
a bit overlong but still great

6. The Field - Love vs. Distance - Kompakt
hard for any 11:45 record to stay as overwhelming as it was the first couple times but I still enjoy it

7. Paul Wall ft. Big Pokey - Sittin' Sideways - Atlantic
might've been better stuff out there of this type but it's not my main menu and this still sounds terrific

8. Capone - U So Craaazzzy - Fastlife
no one else seems to know about this so let me tell you: hottest drumline track ever. or conceivable, at least. it's also the only decent song on the album, but it's absolutely worth the download

9. Kanye West - Hey Mama - Roc-a-Fella
moved me a lot first time I heard it but it's maybe the 9th best song on the album, I really fucked up here

10. Of Montreal - Wraith Pinned to the Mist and Other Games - Polyvinyl
addictive like crack--so much so I burnt myself out on it

1 T.O.K. Unknown Language
2 Sigel, Beanie The B.Coming
3 OG Ron C F-Action 40
4 Three-6 Mafia Most Known Unknown
5 M.A.N.D.Y. Body Language
Get Physical
6 DJ Quik Trauma
7 Trina Glamorest Life
8 Young Jeezy Let's Get It: Thug Motivation 101
9 Lil' Wayne Tha Carter 2
10 Paul, Sean The Trinity

1 Three 6 Mafia Featuring Young Buck & Eightball & MJG Stay Fly
2 Daddy Yankee Rompe
3 Carey, Mariah We Belong Together
4 T.I. ASAP
5 Robyn Be Mine
6 Booka Shade Mandarine Girl
7 T.O.K. Footprints
8 Z-Ro featuring Paul Wall and Lil Flip From the South
9 Young Jeezy Featuring Akon Soul Survivor
10 Lil Rob Summer Nights

ALBUMS
1 Corgan, Billy - TheFutureEmbrace - Warner Bros. - 25
*I still defend this choice and will until I'm dead. A superb teenage daydream of new wave-slash-goth perfection.

2 Womack, Lee Ann - There's More Where That Came From - MCA Nashville - 19
*Gorgeous retro country, no problems here.

3 West, Kanye - Late Registration - Roc-A-Fella - 11
*Holds up awfully well, though I might not have it as high were I to re-do my ballot today.

4 Alan Braxe & Friends - The Upper Cuts - PIAS - 10
*This'd probably be my #3, if not a close #2. Genius filter-house which gets better and better.

5 Bare, Bobby - The Moon Was Blue - Dualtone - 8
*A lovely, dreamy record that I've not listened to in at least 5 months.

6 Los Super 7 - Heard It on the X - Telarc - 7
*A great big party of a record that I've not listened to in at least 5 months. No regrets about either choice, though; both albums hold up very well. (If forced to choose, I'd likely rate the LS7 higher today.)

7 Kraftwerk - Minimum-Maximum - Astralwerks - 5
*How a live electronic record should sound, and functions so nicely as a de facto best-of.

8 Yearwood, Trisha - Jasper County - MCA Nashville - 5
*That tacked-on Garth duet kinda blew, so I'm glad I bought the album when it was originally released. The best of her career.

9 Allan, Gary - Tough All Over - MCA Nashville - 5
*Should've been higher; he'd be a star if Nashville knew how to handle him (cf. Yoakam, Dwight).

10 McBride, Martina - Timeless - RCA - 5
*Another from the "good albums I never listen to" pile. I really should spin this one more, 'cause it's a career achievement as well.

I kinda wish I'd made room for the Monk/'Trane record, which I listen to all the time, and if I was doing this ballot today, Carrie Underwood's album - how is it so great?! - would probably bump McBride off (isn't it ironic, et cetera). Oh, and Mary J.'s album probably would've made it had I heard it in time. But apart from those relatively minor quibbles, this holds up nicely.

SINGLES
1 Three 6 Mafia Featuring Young Buck & Eightball & MJG - Stay Fly - Columbia
*It just keeps getting said: DUH.

2 Snoop Dogg - Let's Get Blown - Doggy Style/Geffen/Star Trak
*Ditto. How did this genius piece of production, icier than Jeezy'll ever be, miss?

3 Snoop Dogg - Signs - Doggy Style/Geffen/Star Trak
*Ditto. At least this was a hit in Europe.

4 Pussycat Dolls, The - Don't Cha (Ralphie's Hot Freak Mix) - A&M
*Perfect dance-pop. Should've been nommed for, and won, the Best Remixed Recording Grammy.

5 Womack, Lee Ann - 20 Years and Two Husbands Ago - MCA Nashville
*Ballad of the year - does MJB's "Be Without You" count, though? Just like her album, that's a really-late-breaker that coulda woulda shoulda made it on...

6 Omarion - Touch - Sony Urban/Epic
*I never bothered to check out his entire album, and wonder if I should have; not only is this single sublime, but "O" almost made it on my ballot as well.

7 Ying Yang Twins - Wait (The Whisper Song) - Collipark/TVT
*I mean, really, when I think of '05 in singles, I'll think of "Stay Fly," the next two singles, and this. Maybe I should've voted for the remix, though.

8 Stefani, Gwen - Hollaback Girl - Interscope
*Still B-A-N-A-N-A-S. Actually sounds better now that I'm not inundated with it every 5 minutes.

9 Clarkson, Kelly - Since U Been Gone - RCA
*Duh.

10 Rev Run - Mind on the Road - RSMG
*This barely beat out "Hung Up" for this slot, and I don't regret it. "Hung Up" is a great single (though "Sorry"'s even better), but this just hits me in my cerebral cortex. Or something. The cut-up sampling of Joan Jett is the epitome of brilliance - how come it took this long?

Great ones I didn't have rooms for: 2 by NIN, one by Gary Allan. Great one I should've made room for - and might make my top 5 today: Carrie's "Jesus Take the Wheel."

Lol

So how do they rank all these years ago?.

Art Brut is both “Meh” and “Jury’s Out”(?)