Hiphop DJ records S&D

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Inspired by records I've been looking at lately, from mixtape-style like Dan the Automator's new one to scratch DJ stuff like the X-ecutioners. Can hiphop live by DJ alone?

Jordan, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

wikka wikka swoosh (new answers)

Jordan, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

maybe you can put it down to a tiny attention span (can't stand 2 seconds of silence between tracks?) but i prefer hip hop (much like techno) in a dj context. albums like madlib's quasimoto and lootpack play on the dj concept and have tracks flow on from one another, creating interesting tempo/mood changes, or having complete idea overthrows within the space of a single track.

search: i'm searching too! :)

minna, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Search: Q-Bert's Demolition Pumpkin Squeeze Musik--the template for all hip-hop DJ mixtapes that came after it, a classic.

M Matos, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: Qbert
I lost my (second gen tape) copy a few months back and have been desperately searching for a replacement. Where the fuck is it available from? Anyone got any ideas?

While we're at it - the DJ Yoda and Greenpeace tapes (Jews Paid) are classics of the genre too. Available online from various sources...

jacob, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Try Peanut Butter Wolf

Poops McGee, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Demolition Pumpin Squeeze (aka "Pre-skool Breaks") is excellent. I know it was issued on CD a couple of years ago, I believe by a Japanese label. If I remember right (haven't heard the tape in a while), it has the original "Tom Sawyer" routine that Mixmaster Mike later incorporated in the Beastie Boys set.

Speaking of Mike, his Neckthrust One mixtape is also sweet.

I don't have the Kid Koala full length, but both the 10-inch Ninja Tune EPs are great. He has a loose, fun approach to the turntable that's closer to pop than a lot of these guys like to go.

Mark, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I really don't know a lot about DJ music or whatever, by Carpal Tunnel Syndrome was the first time I was introduced to Kid Koala. I don't understand how this guy moves vinyl the way he does. He'll go from throwing down a breakbeat to sampling a drunken escapade. The record as a whole is just plain fun.

Brock K., Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

X-ecutioner Rob Swift's "The Ablist" is decent too.

Hunter, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Absolutely: turntablism is the hiphop I love best. Qbert (Pumpkin... is indeed still the best), Rob Swift, DJ Shadow, Peanut Butter Wolf, Invisibl Skratch Picklz, the Allies. The series Return Of The DJ is almost consistently magnificent. Even a lot of my favourite hiphop with rapping is for the sounds the DJ makes rather than the rapper. The rappers kind of stole the genre from the DJs, and I think the balance is being readjusted these days. I don't mind Will Smith being a big star, but his silly records have rather obscured the greatness of Jazzy Jeff (I guess being a crap sometime guest in a sitcom doesn't help your rep either).

Martin Skidmore, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

all of these records are terrible!

ethan, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Because they don't focus on the DJ or they don't have the sounds you like?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Now *there* was a typo. "Focus on the MC," duh.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well partly (and no offense michaelangelo) but saying q-bert set 'the template for all hip-hop DJ mixtapes that came after it', what the fuck is that? yeah i really hear some skratch pikklz (the dj version of 'hawd gangstuh' etc?) in that last clue mix, whatever. i think i said this like a year ago in like my first thread here but i'll say it again, turntablism can sometimes make for some okay 'electronic' music but it's fucking awful hiphop, the end.

ethan, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have nEVER been to a party or actual dance night (as opposed to "dj competition" thingies) where I was in the mood to hear someone wiggida wiggida wack for more than like a second or two - it's good for giving their mixes some traction or something to hold onto but as the centerpiece it seems showoffy. The "scratch" is just kind of a limited noise for me, no matter how fast you can crab-flutter-flare it out. It's amazing and everything but it's amazing to me that knitters can knit that fast too; it doesn't mean I'm enthralled. And at least when you knit you have something to show for it later.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Does anyone listen to party breaks records like those of the AV8 Records cottage industry and Frankie Cutlass' 'Puerto Rico' and Crooklyn Clan and Stik-E & The Hoods and tons of stuff I dont know the name of? Some of them are amazing. I thought this thread was gonna be about them.

joel, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The first Funkmaster Flex mixtape is GRATE and he doesn't talk all over the top of it (astonishingly),

and I like DJ Jelly from Atlanta.

"can hiphop love by DJ alone"? Well it's DJs upon DJs ain't it? Like Russian dolls?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Have you seen the Wave Twisters (Q-Bert) movie?? Highly recommended.

Ron Hudson, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A few other classics:

Mr Dibbs Turntable Scientifics--Maybe the best in terms of complexity, building totally new tracks out of classic samples from all styles of music Babu Comprehension the A side is great, out there funk attack, but the B side is just fantastic, the ultimate blunted mix Roc Raida One Too Many feels like standing on a New York street corner in 1987, wall to wall classics from the age of hard beats and no samples Z Trip/Radar Live at Future Primitive Vol. 2 still my favorite in terms of cutting up random 70s/80s rock with hip hip classics, great party mix

Great music. Great hiphop. Period. Hip hop sounds better mixed, just like all dance music. There are periods when mix tapes are all I want to listen to.

Good place to order them online: Turntable Lab

Ben Williams, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ethan is dead right here, again.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 2 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i think i said this like a year ago in like my first thread here but i'll say it again, turntablism can sometimes make for some okay 'electronic' music but it's fucking awful hiphop, the end.

Ethan, I'd love to see you elaborate on this. It seems like you'd have to define what makes music hip-hop first, and I want to see you take a crack at that. Whattaya say?

Mark, Saturday, 2 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

BEATS AND RHYMES

ethan, Saturday, 2 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

and LIFE, you can't forget LIFE

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 2 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Aside from a few excursions into extreme abstraction--which, though they're never going to replace Jay-Z, are pretty cool embellishments on the edges of hip-hop--most so-called turntablist records do, in fact, feature rhymes. And life. That's because turntablists play--shock--hip-hop records and/or the source material for said records.

It's kind of silly that turntablism has been made into a little genre in recent years--although I can understand why: because hip-hop DJs got forgotten after the solo MC became the primary unit (because you always make more money when you don't have to split it five ways)--because it isn't really anything separate from hip-hop in general. If you buy into that, you just ain't listening. (And can someone explain to me why hip-hop isn't electronic music, please?)

The division isn't about music. It's about audience, and perceptions of it.

Ben Williams, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Search: the Beat Junkies. both Soundbombing comps on Rawkus Records, the "World Famous Beat Junkies" volumes on Blackberry Records, etc.

Dare, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
all that scratching is making me bitch

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 26 April 2003 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i never really see mixtapes at all over here (in ireland)other than the kind of turntablism stuff
whats the story with them?
like i've seen a reference here to the new fifty cent mixtape-is that just 50 cent mixing?
if so,why?
i mean,he's an mc?


robin (robin), Saturday, 26 April 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i think a 50c mixtape = lots of 50c tracks + freestyles. he's hosting that 'get familiar' one i put the picture for up, which i assume means he talks over the tracks a bit.

the kanye west mix cd is really good!

minna (minna), Sunday, 27 April 2003 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)

re : mixtapes - I get ones from local DJs/MCs/etc - P-Money was snaking his way through the crowd @ 4:20 last month pimping a set he did in Harlem last year - really good party styles, etc. & I grabbed Scribe & Ali's "The Boil Up" because, well, I can't wait until their album is released to hear more stuff by them. + pretty reasonable track selection - everybody in Auckland loves "React" which is fine by me, & the constant selection of Gang Starr tracks is v.sweet if perplexing.

(vaguely related : has anyone asked a question about dancing to hip-hop in clubs or whatever? hip-hop is club music etc etc (heh I've probably been to more hip-hop nights than house/d&b/etc combined - the complete lack of a 2step scene round here might contribute to this, tho) => desire to listen to a good party mix @ home to dance around the living-room too. v.v.token scratching, if at all)

Ess Kay (esskay), Monday, 28 April 2003 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
man, I've fallen off w/keeping up w/local hip-hop/r&b/&c (due to falling in/flatting with fun-hating rock/indie-kids, not having walked past beat merchants in forever, not getting to watch music videos on c4 because my flatmates are couch potatoes (who hate fun), &c - better get the breakin wreckwordz thing before it sells out.

anyway, what's good at mixtapekings.com? after reading jess' renegades of funk piece, I'm after southern smoke vol x & we run the south.

etc, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.