Where is the Love For All These Bands from my "UV" CD Shelves Who Don't Get Mentioned Nearly Enough on ILM

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uberzone
ugly casanova*
u.k. subs
ulan bator
ultrababyfat
umbra et imago
umphrey's mcgee
dave unger
unida
unpersons
urinals*
u-roy*
utah saints*
uzi
uz jsme doma
vampire beach babes
vanderhoof
van zant
phil vassar
jaci velasquez
velvet hollow
vengaboys*
vertical slit* (see also v3 below)
victoria
kasper villaume trio
virgin black
von lmo*
patricia vonne*
v3 (see also vertical slit above)
cuong vu
the vulgar boatmen

* - do not get mentioned enough EXCEPT WHEN THEY DO, that is

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Anyone who hates on Utah Saints, the Urinals, Vom Lmo, Vertical Slit or V3 gets my contempt. GRRRR.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Charlie Harper from the UK Subs can often be seen out and about in north London, young Japanese g/f in tow. He must be about 65 by now.
Ulan Bator are French post rock, no?
Umphry's McGee are an untenable jam band, no?
Uz Jsme Doma were talked about on a Czech music thread I think. They make an appearance in a Czech film (The Buttoners?) and have some amazing packaging ideas.
Von Lmo rules.

― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Ulan Bator are a weird art-rock band from France (not sure what would make them "post"); also probably the only band I've ever liked much to be released on M Gira's label in the States (unless there's somebody I'm fogetting.)

Umphrey's McGee are a proggy jam band, tenable in the sense that they sound like Yes at least as much as they sound like the Grateful Dead. Don Allred has done a fine job defending them in the past (and the much weirder and proggier Uz Jsme Doma as well)

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Van Zant received so much love from Sony BMG, a copy protection virus was put on their hit CD. With affection like that, no one ever need love them again. The Van Zants ought to beat them up. That's what Ronnie would have done.

Unida -- nondescript stoner band. Much like Nebula only not quite as distinctive. I have a CD but can't tell you a single song on it.

Vanderhoof -- Isn't this one of the original guitarists from Metal Church? If not, I don't know. If it is, he was also the original guitarist for the SF punk band, the Lewd, who made a pretty cool album with a single called "Mobile Home" on it, later covered by Turbonegro. Metal Church were cool for awhile because Vanderhoof was very bald and didn't hide it.

UK Subs -- made a lot of albums, many of them really mediocre hard rock going under the punk banner. But the first one is totally crushing start to finish.

― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

For my money, Ugly Casanova's album is more interesting beginning-to-end than anything Modest Mouse has released (save for perhaps "Good News...")

But then again, I don't have much money to begin with.

― Brock! (Brock!), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

I think the last time the Vulgar Boatmen came up was on some Velvet Underground sound-alike thread. I found that VB comp at the Strand for a dollar or something- best dollar I ever spent. I had read about their unusual recording methods years ago in Trouser Press but never got around to actually hearing them, having to make do with the related-but-lesser Silos.

― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Uzi - features Thalia Zedek (her band after Dangerous Birds but before Come); released an EP in 1986, which I remember being pretty good. Wasn't a member of Cul-de-Sac in this band?

― Tony Bleach (blackshoeswhitesocks), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

>Vanderhoof -- Isn't this one of the original guitarists from Metal Church?<

Yep, playing proggy but very very poppy (as in, say, the first two Boston albums) metal in the late '90s. Better than anything I ever heard Metal Church do, and better than anything I ever heard Metal Church's proggy poppy fellow Seattlites Queensryche do, for that matter. (I did hear a Metal Church album I briefly liked once in the mid '80s, but I've barely listened to them since. Maybe I should.)

Never heard of Cul-de-Sac, but Uzi is my favorite Thalia Zedek band ever except for the Dangerous Birds (who maybe only made one single).

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

YSI some of that dave ungar business to me, xhuxk.

― D.i.y. U.n.k.l.e. (dave225.3), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Vulgar Boatmen thread:

Could somebody recommend me some vintage 80s jangle-rock (besides REM)?

Love 'em.

Uz Jsme Doma have a CD released with a pop-up book that is one of the most amazing things I own.

― sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

xpost - yeah, YSI some Ungar. Gotta hear that stuff!!!!

― TRG (TRG), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Why not just listen here?:

http://cdbaby.com/cd/daveunger

But sorry, I've never YSI'd, wouldn't know how to if I wanted to, and ain't gonna start now. (And besides, the CD-R I have by Unger, "Rock On Baby Through the American Night,"* is at home not here.)

* - at least I think that's it's title. Something like that anyway.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Thanks - that link is good enough. Those CDs go for $100! And they look like 2-3 song CDs.

― TRG (TRG), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Love x infinity for Uzi, and anything else TZ related.

― Ben Dot (1977), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

wait, "I" gets its own thread, "Q" gets its own thread, but neither "U" nor "V" do?

utah saints' "something good" has been my feel-good song of the year, THIS year, for some reason.

i don't think i've ever heard a vulgar boatmen album, but a double bill of the vulgar boatmen and silos at brownies, in the early early days of brownies, is one of the best shows i've ever seen. many many great, strummy songs in a row.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Ohhh, the Urinals. All of those early singles are stone cold brilliant ("I'm a Bug," "Ack Ack Ack," "Sex," "U," etc.)--and for a band that put out records in EXTREMELY limited editions, they sure do seem to get covered a lot...

― Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Thanks - that link is good enough. Those CDs go for $100! And they look like 2-3 song CDs.

He's the new Marissa Marchant.

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Vertical Slit/V3 - From Columbus, OH - nice to know that all the mid '70s Buckeye-punks weren't confined to Cleveland and Akron. Under The Blood Red Lava Lamp didn't receive enough of my attention because it wouldn't play in my old computer; strangely, it plays fine in my current one. And why, oh why, did I ever sell that ...and beyond comp? One of only 500 copies! Idiot. That one V3 album, the only one I know of, I play maybe once a year and always wonder why I don't play it more every time.

Von LMO - Can't say enough. Future Language is irresistable idiocy on par with the Dictators or B-52s or Sun Ra's Arkestra and sounds like all three playing at the same time. Red Resistor goes even further. (15 years further, to be exact.) LONG LIVE HEAVY METAL!!

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Utah Saints' debut is still among my favourite LPs, 12 years after I first got it. I mean, as far as sampladelic dance/synth-pop goes that shit bonkers - every track speeds into a different direction. Few artists would probably get away by sampling Kate Bush, Eurythmics, and Slayer on the same record.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Victoria the '60s brit pastoral psych band? I have their self-titled, and half the time I like 'em, the other half of the time they're just too precious for my tastes.

And are Utah Saints really that good? I remember a roommate of mine having one of their albums (or maybe ep singles) and not hearing anything all that special about it. Dancey electronica, but nothing that stood out.

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Chuck has ultraviolet CD shelves! Yay!

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Frank in making obvious joke shockah!

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Uberzone's early stuff and the album hasn't dated that well, but last year he and Simply Jeff released an amazing 12"... and the guy has done a pretty decent collaboration with Afrika Bambataa. Probably one of the very few who'll still do "nu-skool breakz" that still sounds fun today and not tired.

― dali madison's nut (donut), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

Yah uberzone mit Bambaataa ist gut, I reviewed that in Voice many years ago. (And yah better than the dated album of his own, I guess, but somehow I can't bring myself to trade it.) xxpost thanxx xxhuxx but I didn't exactly mean to "defend" Umphrey's, just to sort out the good stuff ("brainy heady plucked and picked notes") from teh "Anchor Drops of white out":Anchor Drops being a well-chosen title for an album featuring bleached, bleak words among bubblin' notes, which I guess are kinda like Yes (hence your ref?) Also said it was too much Art Appreciation, til they got to the one that goes, "Something about me stinks." And this coming out allows them to use up their Anchor Drops for about thirty minutes of enjoyableness (not exactly fun or joy, but pleasure). Uz Jsme Douma: ska x prog= *two* things I always have to be forced to like, but damn if UJD don't take me up the wall and make me give it up. Van Zant is pretty good for the most part, at least on the two albums I've heard, Brother To Brother (billed as a rock album, but pretty close, basically to uhh the current album, blanking on the title, but of course it's the kind of mainstream Late Hat-to-New-Earthy country which is really re-tweaked Southern Rock (Brother To Brother being the tweak).Mind you, you can tell they're the *little* brothers, scurrying around under shades o' Ronnie, but they handle it pretty well, when they drop the platitudes.Victoria might be the ones from Joisy, with good-to-great (one great) female vocals and some dumbo proto-prog horn arrangements, but at the end we get demos with the good fe vocals but minus the horns, and also there are other finished tracks with okay-to-good instrumental bits (but really it's about them girls) This is on Shadoks, I think (see http://www.forcedexposure.com, anyway)Damn I gotta get some Von Lmo and Urinals, based on Myonga's and Douglas's descriptions. And Frank's Voice review of Ugly Casonova, come to think of it. xxhuxx, Cul De Sac were and maybe are an okayish avant noise band, from New England, I think, but showed up several years before we were informed of this New Weird America bit, and they made an album with John Fahey which even xgau allowed was at least better than F.'s City Of Refuge, but the main thing I like about 'em is that their Glenn Jones wrote a really vivid, complex description of Fahey's last years, included with Red Cross, which is apparently the last album Fahey finished, and one of the best I've heard.

― don, Thursday, 15 December 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah and Patricia Vonne's Guitars And Castanets, despite the title, is mostly singer-songwriter defined as boom-boom, and more rock than country, I guess, though it might make my Nash Scene Country Top Ten (It did make my trans-genred Charlotte.CreativeLoafing Top Ten, anyway)

― don, Thursday, 15 December 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

>Uberzone's early stuff and the album hasn't dated that well<

Why? They sound exactly the same (i.e.: good) as when they came out!

>For my money, Ugly Casanova's album is more interesting beginning-to-end than anything Modest Mouse has released<

I totally agree with this, by the way.

― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

(But yeah, Uberzone's Bam collab is still their pinnacle.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Only I Roy is better than U Roy IMHO

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

But U Roy is more musical, he's basically a jazz singer

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Is there anything noteworthy about Ultrababyfat other than the Luna connection and a few decent Veruca Salt-ish tracks? The songs I've heard didn't really inspire me to run out and find more.

― dlp9001, Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

That one V3 album, the only one I know of, I play maybe once a year and always wonder why I don't play it more every time.

There are a couple of V3 records, then a bunch under various names. Of the V3 records, the easiest to get was the Onion release, c/o Kugelberg. It's called Photograph Burns and I think it's the best rock record of the 90s. Prior to that were 2 rare CDs on Roperburn, the label that put out the Vertical Slit comp. One, Psychic Dancehall, is hit-or-miss, but features 1 or 2 essential songs. The other, Negotiate Nothing, is AMAZINGLY fantastic, features 2 of the same songs as Photograph Burns but in better versions, a few more killer tunes, and a bunch of studio wankery fun. Personally, some of my fave Jim Shephard/V3 tracks only appeared on a double 7".

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Don: if you're getting Urinals stuff, go for Negative Capability... Check It Out!, a CD that includes I believe everything they recorded in their first incarnation.

― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

A neighbor of mine claims to have a double gatefold LP of a Jim Shepard record - that I have yet to see... Is that "Picking through the wreckage..." or is this guy thinking of someone else?

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

after the Urinals...then move onto 100 Flowers!

Picking Through the Wreckage has a cool spray-painted cover, but it's not double gatefold. The only LP of his I don't have that may be that is the Ego Summit record, which was him with a bunch of other Ohio heavyweights I think... Maybe that's it?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Ultrababyfat: Go for *Eight Balls in Reverse*, the one with the dolphin on the cover, which I would easily take over any Breeders or Veruca Salt album I ever heard. ("Gunshy" and "Shake n Bake" are my favorites, I think,) Their other (earlier?) one, *Silver Tones Smile*, was OK, but not near as memorable; my copy's gone now. Shonali Bhowmik's new band Tigers and Monkeys put out a demo EP I liked a year or two ago, though, and when I saw them live they were a lot of fun.

― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

(I'd take that Ultrababyfat album over any Luna album I ever heard, too; in fact, to be honest, I'd forgotten there was a connection.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

And oh yeah, I've got that Ego Summit LP, and it's good, but not a double gatefold, I'm pretty sure. Unless I just never noticed. (On the other hand, there *is* a plastic protector sleeve around my copy for some reason, I think. So it can't just be a regular cover, either. I'll dig it out of my E vinyl shelves when I'm home tonight.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Photograph Burns, that's the one. With "American Face" and "Bristol Girl" and all that. On some major label, found it for a dollar. Good album.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Tons of copies of Photograph Burns were cut-out, same with the other Onion signings...Thomas Jefferson Slave Apts and Stiff, Inc, I think. Great fucking record, seriously, start to finish. Seek out Negotiate Nothing for more of the same, and some even better.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'm also pretty sure the Ego Summit isn't double gatefold. Great record though.

― TRG (TRG), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

Early U. Roy is my favorite reggae or dancehall ever, had a toasting voice that bounced, hopped, danced, and rolled; but he did use the same mannerisms on every track, making quality overall dependent on the quality of the beats and voice snippets he had to interact with. So his albums could be hard for me to pay attention to all through (though I've never been good at hearing music that requires a lot of attention).

Search: "Honey Come Back," "Drive Her Home," "What Is Catty?" "Runaway Girl," "I Can't Love Another."

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

What an educational thread! Back to tha crates this weekend!

― don, Friday, 16 December 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)

Are Vampire Beach Babes a Toronto group? I think I saw them a couple years ago playing a weird gig at Reverb with burlesque dancers between bands. I didn't think they were that good but it probably wasn't really my thing anyway. A lot of this stuff sounds good though.

― Sundar (sundar), Friday, 16 December 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

Yep, Toronto sounds right - A Crampsy/B-52sy EP (maybe 20 minutes or so and seven songs or so) from around 2000 that was more rocking and funnier than anything I've heard by the Cramps or B-52s in forever. Lots of "Surfin Bird" references. An EP was plenty enough, though.

Checked my Ego Summit LP last night - nope, no gatefold. In fact, no sleeve at all, really; my copy is protected inside a plastic wrapper because the "cover" is really just two disconnected, undersized pieces of cardboard with stuff about and pictures of the band on them.

― xhuxk, Friday, 16 December 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Further U Roy recommendations:

Festival Wise
Flashing My Whip
The Hudson Affair
Stick Together

... too many to think of at the moment

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 December 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

... and "Double Six"! And "Real Cool"!

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 December 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

revive

― skogsturken, Thursday, 25 March 2010 02:55 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxADCsPV8s

― revive, Thursday, 25 March 2010 05:01 (sixteen years ago)

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