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Bar Kokhba Sextet, 50th Birthday Celebration, Vol. 11
Dave Douglas, Keystone
Marty Ehrlich, News on the Rail
Vijay Iyer, Reimagining
Keith Jarrett, Radiance
Wynton Marsalis, Live at the House of Tribes
Brad Mehldau, Day Is Done
Jason Moran & Bandwagon, Same Mother
Sonny Rollins, Without a Song: The 9/11 Concert
Jenny Scheinman, 12 Songs

shower singers unlimited, Friday, 23 December 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

Charlie Haden Liberation Music Orchestra "Not in Our Name"

TRG (TRG), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)

we've been talking mess
about jazz all year my friend:
check it out right here

if you're fred kaplan,
hello and welcome, hang out
and talk jazz with us

on the other hand,
this list is kind of boring,
in my opinion

but big points to you
for not pimping monk/coltrane
like ALL OTHER LISTS

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 23 December 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

Mandarin Movie- s/t (Aesthetics)

brettino's bounce (Da ve Segal), Friday, 23 December 2005 04:41 (twenty years ago)

xpost Come on, what's the point of getting annoyed about the Coltrane/Monk album? Do you really not think it's one of the 10 best jazz releases of the year or do you just have a knee-jerk reaction against anything unanimous?

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 23 December 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

I am not annoyed
by that album, just I guess
numbed by THE AWE

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 23 December 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

and to clarify:
for slate's readership that is
a good list, i guess

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 23 December 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

Well, it's a really good album, and it's also a kind of holy grail, since for so long there's been no decent live recording of Monk and Coltrane (and everyone always talks about how if only there was a good source tape of their Five Spot gig.)

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 23 December 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

was that the list slate actually published? shit, I didn't hear nearly enough jazz this year. Too freakin' busy this year. I didn't hear much new pop or rock either. That's ok though, I like being busy. Music can wait. I doubt I heard more than 10 or so new full-lengths, but since nobody ever posts about jazz, i'll give my shout-outs; my list is like:

Jeffrey Parker - The Relatives
Tord Gustavsen Trio - The Ground
Nicole Mitchell - Hope, Future and Destiny
Fred Anderson / Hamid Drake / William Parker - Blue Winter
Dianne Reeves - Good Night, And Good Luck
Albert Ayler - Live on the Riviera**

** this is the super-duper "lost" record that nobody is talking about! yeah sure, Coltrane, Monk, Bird/Diz ... but some *more* fuckin PRIMO Ayler got released! that Riviera set smokes the Foundation Maight dates, to these ears...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 23 December 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)

Been investigatin' much else this year so I've haven't had much time for jazz but "Alan Shorter Tes Estat" off those Free America reish things sounded awesome from the one track I heard in a rec shop - shame it ws 15 quid but I'm bound to come across - just seemed like everyone ws checking themselves and choosing their moments to have a gd blast - that sorta skilled listening that got my attn to the music in the first place.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 23 December 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Right now I'm all about Cuong Vu's It's Mostly Relative; he's a young trumpeter from Seattle (who also sings on Pat Metheny's The Way Up this year) and he has the awesome Stomu Takeishi -- part of Threadgill's "Make a Move" band -- on bass and Bill Frisell playing some heavy metal guitar. It's about half post-rock, unfortunately, but its heights are pretty damned high. I still think the year's best is the live album from Kahil El'Zabar, mostly because Billy Bang plays the year's best guitar solos on violin and because El'Zabar is as funky as yr granddad's drawers and as soulful as a hatful of ghosts.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 23 December 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

And yes, the Bird/Diz live thing is astonishing, the Monk/Coltrane thing is astonishing and the Half Note Coltrane is astonishing. There that's out of the way.

Julio's correct, the America reissues are fantastic (what I've heard - Shorter, Shepp, Rudd, Wright).

Lately, the Cline/Corsano/Shoup record on Strange Attractors has been searing holes in my clothes. One listen to "Minus Mint" will have you for life. Sure there's some straight-up stomping and barn burning, but also some nice quiet moments, communication of the highest caliber. I have a tendency to write off Nels "Wilco" Cline, but it's not fair. Corsano just brings so much energy to the older dudes, the guy plays like an octopus. He pilots the Cold Bleak Heat disc on Family Vineyard in a similar manner, where Flaherty takes Shoup's place, and Greg Kelley (underrated!) and No Neck/TEST's Matt Heyner bubble along convincingly. A lot of these guys have been playing for years and years, but I get the sense that something's happening.

Two AUM Fidelity releases: Triptych Myth The Beautiful (Cooper-Moore, Tom Abbs, Chad Taylor) is probably my favorite jazz record of the year. Cooper-Moore just has this old-soul thing like 100 years of jazz is contained in his little finger. The other one is William Parker Quartet, can do no wrong.

I didn't hear the Jenny Scheinman, though I'm definitely interested. Most of the 2005 stuff I heard this year are reissues - love love love the Ted Curson album Urge on Fontana with Booker Ervin. There was a Don Cherry reissue of Organic Music that was pretty good. The Ike Quebec Blue Note reissue was worth a listen, as I'm sure there are others. Hooray 2005.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

My favorite jazz record of the year is Mihaly Dresch Quartet's Egyenes Zene (though it actually came out last year). Runner-up would probably be the Scheinman. I haven't heard much else, to tell the truth.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

see that is the thing:
I'm sure those discs are GREAT
but come on what's up*

*with all those lazy ass columns that say "oh the three best jazz records of the year are all 40 years old, wow, isn't it great that these people from the past are still better than anyone else playing now, everything was better in the past, blah blah blah, I've read about six of these things, I swear, critics who all write the same thing all the time are even worse for jazz than "smooth jazz" radio stations

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I know exactly what you mean. In all honesty, I tried to ignore all three of those (for fear of disappointment, I suppose) BUT all jazz press was taken up writing about those three moreso than any other albums! and I am a sucker who believes what he reads.

I mean, what a TV drama, lost tapes believed to have not existed found in dusty attic/on side of road/in a cave contain Coltrane's best work ever. How do you resist.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

>that Riviera set smokes the Foundation Maight dates, to these ears...

Absolute agreement on this. I like the music Ayler made in the last year of his life, the most overtly gospelized stuff, better than anything else he did. ESP-Disk just put out a great 2CD set of the Slugs' Saloon recordings, too, with one track I'd never heard before.

As far as new stuff I've really liked this year, Steve Lehman's Demian As Posthuman, on Pi, is really good, as is the Jason Moran disc cited in the thread-opening post.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I just received the
Bill Frisell 2-disc East/West,
sounds so good so far

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 23 December 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Stormy -- I really liked The Relatives as well.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 23 December 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

FME-"Cuts"...Vandermark/McBride/Nilssen-Love outstanding, sopme Vandermark's best ever playing

The Thing-"Live At Bla"...the Gustafsson's "garage rock/free jazz" group, scorching, incredible live, more great playing from Paal Nilssen-Love on drums

anyway these two I listened to a lot this yr

chris besinger (chris besinger), Friday, 23 December 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

julio i can burn you a copy of that alan shorter alb, i'll bring it along if i go to hstencil's booze up on the 27th (in exchange, is there any way you can put the bill orcutt solo alb on a disc for me? ty)

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 23 December 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

momentum by joshua redman is pretty exceptional.

jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Friday, 23 December 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

i didn't dig that,
too much groovy gravy and
not enough red meat

but it was better
than the limpid s.f. jazz
collective's dull throb

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 23 December 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

man, i would love a YSI of excerpts from the year's best jazz records... i heard zilch new (or newly discovered) jazz this year except some of the glasgow jazz-folk kids and the brad mehldau; was too busy listening to old art blakey records.

anyway, like i say, it would be so awesome to get a sampler.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Friday, 23 December 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

There's a bunch more jazz top ten lists here:

http://www.jazzhouse.org/top/

I was especially intrigued by the lists of Stuart Broomer and David R. Adler.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 23 December 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

(ward you have mail.)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 23 December 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

ok wait, I have another entry into my list, it's just sneaking under the wire (released this Wednesday), and it's not a new album but another darn reissue .. but this is a great one: Don Fagerquist!! ok, ok, so I am a Dick Buckley disciple, and yes, Dick does always talk up DQ, but I just picked this new reish up tonight and damn it smokes. DQ's tone and control is really pretty; ok, so he is not Brownie but this is really enjoyable stuff. Mostly straight-ahead 50s-style bop, but if ya like trumpet, pick this one up for sure -- he's just got that perfect bright, crisp sound that can be so rare on the instrument. pretty fly for a white guy.

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/f/fagerq_don~_portraito_101b.jpg

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 24 December 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

I don't know much about jazz, but I fucking loved the Polar Bear and Acoustic Ladyland records.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Saturday, 24 December 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

That Jeff Parker record is good. "Toy Boat" is my favorite track.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 24 December 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Jamie Saft Trio : Astaroth - Book of Angels 1
Okkyung Lee : Nihm

sorry to sound like a fanboy but both are on Tzadik :)

mersenne twister (mersenne_twister), Saturday, 24 December 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

oh and hurray to
moacir santos' choros
& alegria

great brazilian jazz
old and new and in between
don't sleep on this dudes

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 24 December 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Mark O'Leary, a guitarist from Cork, Ireland, issued a string of releases on Leo, and his trios with Mat Maneri and Matthew Shipp (aptly named Chamber Trio) and especially his trio with Thomasz Stanko and Billy Hart (Luminary) were really good.

save the robot (save the robot), Saturday, 24 December 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

And agreed on Triptych Myth, that's fantastic.

Frisell's East/West live set is really good, and the download-only Further East/Further West is definitely worth getting (available from his website, www.billfrisell.com, and also at iTunes, Rhapsody et al.). My only complaint about East is that the "acoustic" set is stuck on at the end (instead of integrated into the middle, like in their real sets), and it doesn't sound very serious - and I can't tell if that last track, with the heavy electric guitar coming in, is just some after-the-fact studio joke.

save the robot (save the robot), Saturday, 24 December 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Did anybody hear the Cooper-Moore Assif Tsahar colaboration from this year? America was one of my favorite albums from 03 or 04 or whenever it came out, but I couldn't get into this recent one.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 24 December 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Sweet. I haven't had time to really read this thread, but I will come back to it.

Jazz albums that I still really want to hear from this year:

Jeff Parker
the Marsalis live dingus
the Mehldau thing
Jamie Saft Trio
Monk w/Coltrane

Jazz albums I liked:

Shannon Powell, Powell's Place (w/Jason Marsalis on vibes, it's a great mix of straight-ahead, r&b, and New Orleans shit)

Uh, that's all I can think of, most of the stuff I listened to this year was older (but not that old).

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 24 December 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Great thread! Top 05, just in the order they come to me 1)Jason Moran,Same Mother: got into this, with inspiration and collaborative composition courtesy Andrew Hill, at the same time I finally started listening to Hill himself, and no, it's not too AH, it's distinctive as hell, with the AH and classical and hip-hopish now seen and raised by (for instance)"I'll Play The Blues For You";2)(late 2004) Benny Lackner Trio, Not The Same:another piano trio-as-equals; BLT and Jason have spoiled Bad Plus for me, but that's okay; 3)James Carter (& co.),Gold Sounds: splatter that winter skylight;4)Dee Dee Bridgewater, Jai Deux Amours:Premiere chantoozie, with a guitarist who knows his Ribot and an accordionist ditto;5)Greg Osby Trio, Channel Three: clipped,lyrical, buoyant.

don, Sunday, 25 December 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)

really enjoyed guitarist Mark O'Learys releases on Leo records.
The release with Tomasz Stanko and Billy Hart,took my breath away.
He has the delicacy of Frissel,Fluency of Metheny,angularity of McLaughlin and a little Holdsworth.The music is a mix of pastoral
ecm-esque lyricism to no holds barred free playing.Both Stanko and Hart really set things alight also.Looking forward to his latest Leo release
Closure with Mark/Uri Caine /Ben Perowsky

james colthurst, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

I started listening to jazz for real, kind of, this year--at least as much as anything else, genrewise. I'm probably just demonstrating my lack of knowledge here (though I think my ears for the stuff are pretty good), but it seems like 2005 was a REALLY good year for jazz albums. Ones I enjoyed, in no order:

Triptych Myth
E.S.T.
Robert Glasper (saw him in Seattle and he was incredible, a couple of songs were A+ perfect)
David S. Ware live
William Parker Quartet
Gold Sounds (I've always liked James Carter, though the undisputed highlight was the solo-piano "Trigger Cut")
David Murray 4tet & Strings (outlandish and totally amazing strings on this one, luvvit)
The Bad Plus
Dave Douglas, Keystone
Vijay Iyer

I seem to prefer small groups and piano trios/quartets. And I'm already hearing really good records that are coming out in 2006--Matthew Shipp's solo-piano One on Thirsty Ear and Petrella Gianluca's Indigo 4 on Blue Note.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 29 December 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

The cd of the year has to Chamber trio with Mark O'Leary Matthew Shipp and Matt Maneri on Leo records.
Contemporary chamber imrov at its best,
I also dug Levitation with O'Leary Stanko Hart.
Billy Hart just rips it up there,Stanko is superb.
O'Leary just melts.....

rod reddenovsky, Thursday, 29 December 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Something awfully similar about Rod's and James' posts ... does Mark O'Leary have a street team?

save the robot (save the robot), Thursday, 29 December 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

i've gone off brad mehldau since he had some dumbo things to say abt free jazz in jazzwise mag

acoustic ladyland are the sham 69 of nu jazz.

i like the sound of the oleary recs, have loved the last two stanko albs on ecm. i heard, in a similar vein, enrico rava's latest on ecm w/ paul motian - typical ecm, but absolutely lush nonetheless.

aside from the alan shorter (others in that series also look mouth-watering but so fucken expensive, and with no bonus shit bah), i enjoyed some (midprice!) blue note reissues: Andrew!!! by Andrew Hill, Symphony for Improvisers and Where is Brooklyn by Don Cherry

no fucken way is the Monk/Coltrane live rec the best EVER Coltrane

don't ever pass up the opportunity to see David Murray live

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 29 December 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)

What did Mehldau say? And have you ever read his liner notes? He writes all kinds of wank theoretical shit.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

I think Mehldau is amazing btw, but, um, he sure plays lots of notes. Some of the trio stuff is a little too ridiculous for me to follow...I think Largo will always be my fave.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

mehldau was all like 'these european free improv cats get all kinds of govt grants and none of them can even play their instruments', evan parker properly spanked his butt in the following ish's letter col

i like some of mehldau's trio recs, they're pretty and clever, but: he has dubious taste in cover versions - the beatles, nick drake, radiohead, paul simon HOW FUCKEN BRAVE - his expressed disdain for sampling/electronics is feebleheaded wyntonism (see also: Jarrett on fusion) - and his solo piano stuff is REALLY boring - he's just really tame when lined up alongside shipp, taborn, moran, uri caine etc

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 29 December 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

I don't think you're wrong, but he used electronics on Largo (or at least a fuckload of Jon Brion effects and post-production), and I like his Radiohead covers. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

don't ever pass up the opportunity to see David Murray live

I saw World Saxophone Quartet Experience during Earshot Jazz Fest in Seattle--basically WSQ w/a rhythm section (a showy one, not always to my taste) and Craig Harris on trombone, doing Hendrix material. Pretty fun, and Murray was the definite standout among the soloists to my ear.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 29 December 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

Mehldau is fuckin' elevator music. Dull, dull, dull.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 29 December 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

Whatevs, Phil. They might not bash, but the shit they do to All the Things You Are on vol. 4 is anything but dull or safe.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 29 December 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

I got Keystone recently. It's the only CD I have with me now so I've been listening a lot. It's really good. I especially like all the bending of Wurlitzer pitches. I'm surprised, though, that no one mentions Mountain Passages as well. Maybe because it has more of a compositional sensibility and less groove? I really like the instrumentation on that one (clarinet + cello = GRATE and the tuba works really well as a bass instrument). The narrative is handled with finesse, I think, and the sounds and textures are lovely. Likewise, I liked Frisell's Richter 858 a whole lot but maybe it seems less jazz.

Another disc I've been playing a lot this year has been Pat Metheny Group's The Way Up. It's really clean and glossy and fusoid and all about heroic solos but I think it's great in its way. Reich-ish backdrops lead into sprawling epic tracks, densely layered with electronics and instrumental sounds moving through different moods.

In a more straight vein, I love the Dave Brubeck album. Everyone just seems to play so well on such solid tunes.

I haven't heard nearly enough this year though and I'd like to catch up, esp with Shipp and Tim Berne's projects. What's Vijay Iyer all about?

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 30 December 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

That Gold Sounds record got very little press, didn't it? Don't remember reading anything about it, though maybe it was covered in the jazz mags. Figured there would be some indie crossover.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 30 December 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

I think The Way Up
is a truly beautiful
grand composition

that and the cuong vu
are quite similar in their
post-post-rock-ed-ness

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 December 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

Yay. I was worried I'd have to fight for that one alone. Some of it reminds me of an instrumental Yes (obv a good thing). I'll check out Cuong Vu for sure. Tell me more about what Frisell does on it. I scanned East/West in a store. It didn't seem bad but I wasn't convinced yet to pay for live recordings of tracks that are mostly already on albums I own. Does it offer anything very different from the dreamy, layered, ringing harmonics-y sound of the last few albums?

Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 31 December 2005 03:53 (twenty years ago)

Did anyone hear the Claudia Quintet record from this year?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

east/west: I don't know,
not familiar with bill
frisell's huge oeuvre

cuong vu: frisell SHREDS
and vu's trumpet also SHREDS
(sometimes, both are hushed)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Tonight I will be raiding the downtown Exclusive Co., gift certificate in hand, looking for:

Jeff Parker
Bill Frisell, Unspeakable
Claudia Quintet, Semi-Formal
Jamie Saft Trio
maybe David Murray 4tet w/stringz
maybe Gold Soundz

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:41 (twenty years ago)

yay i love that place
but their jazz selection has
fallen off somewhat

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

"Gold Sounds" got some nice press--I heard Tom Moon, I think, talk about it on NPR recently. I wrote a review of it for the Nashville Scene, which ran alongside my piece on Silver Jews, and I believe there was a really good piece on it in Minneapolis City Pages that lumped it, Silver Jews and Malkmus together. I agree with Matos, Chestnut's solo piano take on "Trigger Cut" might well have been the best track, but I sure like what they do on "Blue Hawaiian" and "Platform Blues."

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:46 (twenty years ago)

yay i love that place
but their jazz selection has
fallen off somewhat

You mean since the old guy died? That's too bad. I always got the sense that even though he was a classical-not-jazz guy, they kept the jazz basement well-stocked out of respect for his territory.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:48 (twenty years ago)

when did the dude die?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Oops, he's not dead, he's just ill and not working there anymore: http://www.thedailypage.com/going-out/music/news/managedit.php?intmusicnewsid=344

He has a great story about telling Jim Morrison to fuck off in the 60s.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah a real great guy
but the jazz section, while big,
is not all that hot

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Bill Frisell, Unspeakable

I was kind of underwhelmed by this. It sounds like too much of this is spent playing along to canned loops. It seems to have wrung all the rhythmic juice out of the playing. Kenny Wollesen should not ever be in the same sentence with the word "stiff" but at times this record tempts me to use that term. I think his hands were tied. Also Jenny Scheinman is on this, but you'd have a hard time guessing that, if you didn't know it. Seems like the individual voices of the musicians were not allowed to come through. Even Frisell himself seems to be shown in better light on something like Dave Douglas's Strange Liberation.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:48 (twenty years ago)

Interesting!

I think Sundar is a big fan of this one...?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:58 (twenty years ago)

Unspeakable was actually 2004. I prefer the new live albums - Unspeakable has some good tracks but I never go back to it. Like you say, it is stiff - it doesn't sound like much fun to me.

save the robot (save the robot), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Huh, well, listen before you buy. I loved Unspeakable (don't have it on me now to play as I normally would in a case like this). It's still mostly in the same (layered, studio-heavy) vein as his other 00s albums but with more noise, some more extended tracks, and plundering soul and funk rather than country, bossa, or Malinke music. It definitely doesn't groove like James Brown or anything. It's more about using those timbres as a source but there are some great horn lines, I thought. I guess I can see how parts of it might kind of just sound like a regular jam band. What did you guys think of The Intercontinentals? I thought it was great and liked this as a follow-up, a similar textural approach and feel with a bit more of a beat, soul elements, and more extended noisy excursions.

FWIW Strange Liberation is the one I never come back to. It's not bad (there is a lot there, and I played it at the time) but that strikes me as kind of blah and unfun, esp compared to Freak In or Keystone.

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:09 (twenty years ago)

I should revisit Unspeakable. He takes some great solos (like on "White Fang") and I liked several of the songs. It's a really scattered album to my ears though - maybe I just need more time to get into it. He's definitely going in an r & b direction now, I'd love to hear the new quintet with Greg Tardy and Ron Miles, and holy crap, the Sam Yahel/Brian Blade organ trio hot when they hit Boston a couple years ago.

Intercontinentals is really good, yet I don't come back to that one often either. My favorite track is "Yala," where it sounds like Christos Govetas on oud is teaching Frisell the track on the spot, and Frisell's going, "Yeah, I get this! This stuff is a blast!"

Overall, I enjoy practically all of Frisell's '00s records but - and this is a tired assessment by now - I miss the spontaneity of his ECM bands, or the two albums Wayne Horvitz produced, Nashville and Have a Little Faith. Those two sound and feel so great that the Lee Townsend productions really suffer, to my ears, by comparison.

save the robot (save the robot), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:25 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, now I felt a little bad. Maybe I'll put on SL when I get back to Buffalo to hear that Rhodes.

See, someone else liked Unspeakable. "Who Was That Girl?" is the one with the classic horn line and "Old Sugar Bear" is the one with the great guitar noise IIRC.

xpost Right, see, I only really got into BF with The Intercontinentals, which I fell in love with right away. This sound sounds gorgeous to my ears. The older stuff actually sounds slightly dated to me (in terms of production) in comparison. Still good though - have always loved "Live to Tell"!

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:30 (twenty years ago)

(Not that I knew the early stuff before and didn't like it or anything BTW. Just meant that the first whole album of his I ever heard was The Intercontinentals and it won me over right away.)

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:31 (twenty years ago)

FWIW Strange Liberation is the one I never come back to

I'm surprised, I thought that was your shit! I feel similarly, though.

As far as Dave Douglas, I liked the Infinite but haven't listened to it in years. I loved Leap of Faith and Soul on Soul, and while I haven't listened to those in as long, now I want to. Didn't hear Freak In, but I'm interested in Keystone.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 00:09 (twenty years ago)

best Frisell remains "Where in the World?," if you ask me. I wasn't bowled over by "Intercontinentals" myself.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 00:51 (twenty years ago)

JazzTimes' Top 50 Albums of 2005:

1. Thelonious Monk Quartet with John Coltrane, At Carnegie Hall (Blue Note)
2. Dizzy Gillespie/Charlie Parker, Town Hall, New York City, June 22, 1945 (Uptown)
3. John Coltrane, One Down, One Up: Live at the Half Note (Impulse!)
4. Sonny Rollins, Without a Song (The 9/11 Concert) (Milestone)
5. Wayne Shorter Quartet, Beyond the Sound Barrier (Verve)
6. Terence Blanchard, Flow (Blue Note)
6. Vijay Iyer, Reimagining (Savoy)
8. Paul Motian/Bill Frisell/Joe Lovano, I Have the Room Above Her (ECM)
9. Tord Gustavsen, The Ground (ECM)
10. Brad Mehldau Trio, Day Is Done (Nonesuch)
11. Bill Frisell, East/West (Nonesuch)
12. Charles Lloyd, Jumping the Creek (ECM)
12. Tierney Sutton, I'm with the Band (Telarc)
14. Greg Osby, Channel Three (Blue Note)
14. Bebo Valdes, Bebo de Cuba (Calle 54)
14. Cuong Vu, It's Mostly Residual (ArtistShare)
17. Charlie Haden/Liberation Music Orchestra, Not in Our Name (Verve)
18. Bobo Stenson, Goodbye (ECM)
18. Marcin Wasilewski/Slawomir Kurkiewicz/Michal Miskiewicz, Trio (ECM)
20. Billy Bang, Vietnam: Reflections (Justin Time)
20. Bill Charlap Plays George Gershwin: The American Soul (Blue Note)
20. Dave Douglas, Keystone (Greenleaf)
20. The Bill Holman Band, Live (Jazzed Media)
20. In the Country, This Was the Pace of My Heartbeat (Rune Grammofon
20. Joe Lovano, Joyous Encounter (Blue Note)
20. Eddie Palmieri, Listen Here! (Concord Picante)
20. Marc Ribot, Spiritual Unity (Pi)
28. Dave Holland Big Band, Overtime (Dare2)
28. Pat Metheny Group, The Way Up (Nonesuch)
28. Solveig Slettahjell Slow Motion Quintet, Pixiedust (Curling Legs)
31. The Bad Plus, Suspicious Activity? (Columbia)
31. Bill Charlap/Sandy Stewart, Love Is Here to Stay (Blue Note)
33. Keith Jarrett, Radiance (ECM)
33. Mandarin Movie (Aesthetics)
33. Wynton Marsalis, Live at the House of Tribes (Blue Note)
36. Lorraine Feather, Dooji Wooji (Sanctuary)
36. Kurt Rosenwinkel, Deep Song (Verve)
36. Luciana Souza, Duos II (Sunnyside)
39. Cold Black Heat, It's Magnificent, But It Isn't War (Family Vineyard)
39. Brian Culbertson, It's on Tonight (GRP)
39. Marty Ehrlich, News on the Rail (Palmetto)
39. Either/Orchestra, Live in Addis: Ethiopiques Vol. 20 (Buda Musique)
39. Manu Katche, Neighbourhood (ECM)
39. The Don Menza Big Band, Menza Lines (Jazzed Media)
39. Mark Murphy, Once to Every Heart (Verve)
39. Jim Self, InnerPlay (Basset Hound)
39. Dylan van der Schyff, The Definition of a Toy (Songlines)
48. Jamie Cullum, Catching Tales (Verve Forecast)
48. Mat Maneri, Pentagon (Thirsty Ear)
48. Shining, In the Kingdom of Kitsch You Will Be a Monster (Rune Grammofon)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:17 (twenty years ago)

discuss amongst yourselves

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:19 (twenty years ago)

I was about to say that that was a really boring ass list too but then I realized that five of my picks were on the list.

AllAboutJazz.com's list is more esoteric at least:

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=20317

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:26 (twenty years ago)

cool--though I do think it's useful to keep in mind that the AllAboutJazz one is one writer's while the JazzTimes list is a poll result.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)

Wow, traffic jam at 20.

Re: 28 - "Curling Legs" is a kinda sexy name for a label.

And while they're ranking oldies, why no Miles Davis Cellar Door? Were they not sure it would come out by the end of the year?

save the robot (save the robot), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:50 (twenty years ago)

And while they're ranking oldies, why no Miles Davis Cellar Door? Were they not sure it would come out by the end of the year?

It placed third in the Reissues list, which I'll type up in a sec. They did actually talk about how they weren't sure what the hell was going on with it in terms of release, in the comments before the lists proper.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:53 (twenty years ago)

JazzTimes Reissues of the Year:

1. Pat Metheny/Ornette Coleman, Song X (Nonesuch)
2. Jelly Roll Morton, The Complete Library of Congress Recordings by Alan Lomax (Rounder)
3. Miles Davis, The Complete Cellar Door Sessions 1970 (Columbia/Legacy)
4. Bill Evans, The Complete Village Vanguard Recordings, 1961 (Riverside)
5. Andrew Hill, Andrew!!! (Blue Note)
6. Sonny Sharrock, Black Woman (Water)
7. Woody Shaw, Stepping Stones: Live at the Village Vanguard (Columbia)
7. Julian Priester, Love, Love (ECM)
9. Progressions: 100 Years of Jazz Guitar (Columbia/Legacy)
10. Don Cherry, Symphony for Improvisers (Blue Note)
10. Complete Clef/Verve Count Basie Fifties Studio Recordings (Mosaic)
10. Bobby Hutcherson, Oblique (Blue Note)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:56 (twenty years ago)

I got the Jelly Roll Morton box from my parents for Christmas, it's really amazing but I haven't really digested it all. It comes with Alan Lomax's biography of Jelly Roll as well. I've read lots of negative critiques of the sound on the box, but I think it's pretty good considering it was recorded on acetate discs. I want to listen to more of it before I say more.

mcd (mcd), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:16 (twenty years ago)

cool--though I do think it's useful to keep in mind that the AllAboutJazz one is one writer's while the JazzTimes list is a poll result.

whoops! yeah I meant this page of lists:

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=20301

our overall top ten compilation isn't out yet, soon though

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 7 January 2006 02:24 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I did good tonight. From my gift certificate (and you were right Matt, Exclusive seems to have culled their jazz section down to the basics):

Thelionus Monk w/John Coltrane, At Carnegie Hall
Uri Caine, Toys - apparently a Herbie Hancock tribute from this year that I never even heard about. It's got Dave Douglas, Dave Holland, Joshua Roseman, Don Byron, and Ralph Peterson. Hope it's hot.

From down the street at my beloved B-Sides:

Claudia Quintet, Semi-Formal
Electric Masada

I'm very excited about all my new jazz.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 7 January 2006 04:13 (twenty years ago)

Claudia Quintet is great. It's like Tortoise if they came from a jazz starting point instead of a rock one.

Dude put his marriage proposal underneath the cd tray!

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 7 January 2006 23:35 (twenty years ago)

awwwwwwwww that is so sweet
I'm awaiting Coltrane/Monk
even as we speak

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 7 January 2006 23:43 (twenty years ago)

Coltrane/Monk is so
Worth your time, guys; one of my
Fave Monks--says a lot

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 8 January 2006 01:49 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that would so have been on my P&J, if my slowass Amazon Merchant hadn't sent it Media Mail. Watch out for those guys, no matter how good their precious Feedback is. It did make my ILM Top Twenty. Do believe the hype. And I've never been that big on 50s Trane, nor was he that highly regarded then, from what I've read: just one of those good ol' journeymen who suddenly made the leap. Kind of unnerving. You think you know somebody...

don, Sunday, 8 January 2006 05:20 (twenty years ago)

Amazon merchants
can be so dumb! For CDs,
First Class is cheaper!

truck-patch pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 8 January 2006 05:26 (twenty years ago)

cold bleak heat- "it's magnificent but it isn't war"

rickly, Monday, 9 January 2006 06:30 (twenty years ago)

What about it?

mcd (mcd), Monday, 9 January 2006 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Did anyone hear the Claudia Quintet record from this year?

yes, good record, in the spirit of chris speed solo stuff, pachora, alasnoaxis, et al.

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm all about it right now.

Monk/Coltrane is really living up to the hype as well.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

http://www.keyboardmuseum.org/pic/s/snar/3.jpg

xcr (Brad Laner), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 04:43 (twenty years ago)

okay here are our allaboutjazz.com consensus picks: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=20349

nothing too wild here, nothing too too boring either

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 12 January 2006 20:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm listening to Unspeakable like mad since coming back and y'all tripping. It's great. I mean, in a way it might be closer to a post-rock or trip-hop/acid jazz/ambient sort of aesthetic than a jazz one but there's just something about it that engrosses me totally, even when I can see how someone might possibly hear some of the guitar licks as banal or obvious. I don't even know quite what it is; it might be in the production and arrangements, just the depths of layers and range of guitar sounds perhaps? And it does groove, just in a more understated way.

Just picked up Monk/Coltrane, which sounds really nice too.

Sundar (sundar), Sunday, 22 January 2006 16:59 (twenty years ago)


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