Rolling Stones - Beggar's Banquet

"no expectations" is my favorite as well...

no. god no.

Okay. "Gimme Shelter".

Like... you mean.... that album is new? :)

"Beggar's Banquet" to me is the last great Stones album. They still preserved some of the psychedelic pop greatness of their previous three albums, and the rock'n'roll sparks doesn't damage much. From "Let It Bleed" onwards they were a bit too Tennessee/Louisiana for my taste.

christmas present.. i'll put some of the extended family Borders gift cards, etc. towards Let It Bleed

With Mick Taylor in the lineup, they were the greatest rock band of all time.

the dude's abode

(B.B. is my Rolling Stones album for the ages, too.)

-- kornrulez6969 (TCBein...), December 27th, 2005.

Re-posting this statement to draw attention to how utterly untouchable it is....

(Except I want to put in a plug for Metamorphosis as the only great post-Beggars Stones alb.* My favorite Stones albums are probably Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass), Got Live If You Want It (American alb), and The Rolling Stones Now!, though I like everything up to Beggars. I just like 'em far more as a song band than as a groove band. And I don't like how "Sympathy" and "Shelter" and "Can't Always Get What You Want" reduce "Heart of Stone" and "Cloud" etc. to platitudes. (Which doesn't mean that "Sympathy" and "Shelter" aren't good songs.)

(*Actually, Emotional Rescue is pretty damn good as a lame-ass-motherfuckin' groove alb, and Dirty Work is good as a kind of Emotional Rescue Gets the Jitters; and a couple of tracks on the new one - "Rough Justice" and "It Won't Take Long" - aren't bad pieces of jitter groove, though Lindsay Lohan would sing them better than Mick does.)

that said, i love this album but it's probably my least favorite classic stones album, even taking into account the heartbreaking "no expectations," which is the best stones ballad e-z.

i regualarly yearn for another record like BB. the damn thing is a pillar.

im glad someone else supported "dear doctor"..."while she plied me with bourbon so Sour" sung with sour notes and all...

and the song about the 12 yr old groupie is fucking tearing. of there are lyrics to have problems with, its those...(and i dont meen the pedophilia, just the general uselessness of a song about groupies).

Shame on everyone for neglecting "Stray Cat Blues." Filthiest "oh yeah" ever. The Ya-Yas version is maybe even filthier, if such a thing is possible. Just nasty.

It's no hangin' matt-aaaaaah... It's no capital crahm... oh YEAH

xpost!

- Mick Jagger, 1977

I have to wonder: Why are people taking seriously the lyrics to "Sympathy"? Mick surely didn't. Did he? And to let that ruin the song for you is insanity. Only a eunuch could hate "Sympathy."

what part of And I don't like how "Sympathy" and "Shelter" and "Can't Always Get What You Want" reduce "Heart of Stone" and "Cloud" etc. to platitudes. am i missing?

because of the way they hold together.

That is not what Frank is saying.
-- Stormy Davis (electrifyingmoj...), December 27th, 2005. (diamond)

Yes it is.

13 on Ya-Yas.

This seems odd to me. You really think, oh, say, Nineteenth Nervous Breakdown, Paint It Black and Get Off Of My Cloud are any more "songs" than the post-Beggars stuff? Can't see it myself. The difference between the early and later '60s work (or rather, when they were working with Andrew Loog Oldham and when they weren't) is the sound, more than anything. First they were going for that metallic wall of sound thing, which was indeed great, and then they went rootsy.

I still wish there was a good compilation of their pre-Beggars singles tho. It's really fucking annoying. There are like ten different greatest hits CDs and you have to buy at least two of them to get all the stuff you need.

there's this : Singles Collection: the London Years although it's in mono.

I'd take issue with this too. I think what happened more precisely is that they became aware of an identity which they had half-consciously created for themselves, and which had half been created for them by the media, and they started writing more directly out of that awareness. And as a result they pushed the internal contradictions of that identity to its limits, until it blew up in their faces.

phenomenal record, and the kind you stick with because it's a bit challenging and unpredictable. opens with one of the greatest songs ever and then takes you off on a whole bunch of tangents that you're not quite comfortable with initially. but get the songs into your system and this reveals itself as a total gem.

For me, Let It Bleed is the most towering achievement, but I have lots of time for this one and have even thought a couple of times that I prefer it just as a listen.

"From "Let It Bleed" onwards they were a bit too Tennessee/Louisiana for my taste."

is this a familiar position? i really dislike the stones when they try and do american rootsy stuff. i think i actually hate it. prefer stuff like sympathy, jumping jack flash, bitch, cant you hear me knocking etc.

i really dislike the stones when they try and do american rootsy stuff
You must hate them most of the time, then.

i love this album, the drum sound on 'parachute woman' and 'street fighting man' is insane, was thinking of getting one of the vinyl reissues that came out in 03

i really dislike the stones when they try and do american rootsy stuff.

that's usually their funniest stuff, tho (e.g. "Dear Doctor," "Far Away Eyes," even their cover of "Down Home Girl.").

it can definitely be funny and imo pretty well done (cf. prodigal son, factory girl, country honk, you gotta move, lots of exile, etc), for a group of middle-class english dudes.

there might have been boatloads of british doing the pre-war american folk thing around this time, but the stones managed to pull it off without coming across like a reproduction of a museum piece or a social studies project

its funny sometimes but also a bit excruciating. even if the songs good like love in vain, it takes me a while to get past the vocals and the weirdness of the affected accents.

can't really think of many stones songs with mick's proper accent off the top of my head. some from between the buttons maybe, or the hilarious spoken bit in 'too muc blood'

"Just Another Night."

i think its just more exposed on the slower songs so you notice it more.

best American rock band ever

nah, man, that would have to be the Black Crowes.

mick doing a girl voice to read the letter in 'dear doctor' is some pips-making-train-noises-in-'midnight-train'-level performance genius

Omg i *finally* figured this out.
It's 'Rumplestiltskin'! His name is Rumplestiltskin, right??

lol good theory. This is the best Stones album.

Yes. The perfect combination of psychedelic haze and return-to-roots dirt.

it's Kltpzyxm

this is when they became really boring

regardless of my feelings about this style - what was it about this album that apparently convinced elements of the 68 generation that the stones were *literal* revolutionaries, at least for a short period? i know everything was weird then and people were desperate then but come on. street fighting man is barely more radical than lennon’s effort, and mostly by being vaguer. factory girl? salt of the earth? might as well be frank turner (or primal scream...)