CracKKKer rapper deathmatch : Sage Francis + fans VS. El P, Cage, Def Jux allstars and token Black guy

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VS.

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Who would win and why ?

― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

― Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Elli$. That's a "token black guy." He didn't actually choose to be there at all. After all, you and I, we really know what black people are like, don't we? We know that other black guy in the background, he's a token, too. If black people don't like what you & I like, they're hardly black at all, are they?

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.iprintfromhome.com/i/CamuPants/600/camujeans.jpg

― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

but there's an asian in the sage francis photo

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

also, there are multiple black doodz in the background of the weathermen pic

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

wait, that might be can ox

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

also, there are multiple black doodz in the background of the weathermen pic
-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), December 30th, 2005.

wait, that might be can ox
-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), December 30th, 2005.

are they like twice the size of normal humans or what?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

they are on uncle sam stilts

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

i Believe those blacks are Can Ox and the Camu Tao dood in the size 28 girls Wranglers posted above.

Mr Straight Toxic is obviously unaware that El P keeps severeal large, musty looking black men in his basement to be used for token-black-in-picture purposes when his "i don't care what anybody on the internet sez about Def Jux being a label for mutant crackers in trucker hats and skull t-shirts, Company Flow were thanked on a Gang Starr lp in 1998!!!!" rants start falling on deaf ears when Def Jux's relevance to rap is questioned.

I wonder if Sage and the Asian kid in the sweater tag-teamed that slore in the front row after he finished rapping about enchanted forrests for the evening. I bet the Asian dude straight ripped up that pussy.

― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

they opened up the wormhole and out popped evil-patrin

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, I'm the good one?

― disco violence (disco violence), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck you !!!!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/DertyFoot/Copy1.jpg

― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cinemacom.com/50s-sci-fi/when-worlds-collide.jpg

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

More like "when one world stumbles onto another world and mutters 'what the fuck, man, this is weird' and leaves"

― disco violence (disco violence), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Cage sez : Snaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrffffffffffffff, nigga.

http://www.ecrecs.com/CKFACE.JPG

― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.canyonart.com/Images/Jemez/p745.jpg

― John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

posting pictures of Cage's grill veers dangerously close to sub-Trifean

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.icecreamman.com/images/thumbs/tmb_050927cage23.jpg

http://www.icecreamman.com/images/thumbs/tmb_050927cage18.jpg

― ELLI$, Friday, 30 December 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

game recognize game eh Ellis? My man!

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Black people don't care about black people.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

copywrite is a seriously dope rapper
el-p is trash on the mic but hes cooked a few good beats and i respect his grind
cage could be brilliant before he went emo - smut peddlers got me thru h.s. and i still go back to the lyrical depth on cuts like 'weather people' but hes a long haired nerd rap fag now
camu tau was the wackest mc in mhz but his sparse thuggish style on the nighthawks collab led to some classic verses
cann ox are wack, sloppy, derivative rappers w/ occasional decent punches that got endlessly dissected by new-jack internet herbs
sage francis is 100% garbage, shit aint even rap music

in conclusion quit tryna be me 4 yrs ago

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 07:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/gypsyfrocksbedlam/eminem-052.jpg

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 08:08 (nineteen years ago)

Ayo, Ethan, as R.P can attest you've been bitin'/plagarizing us original '98 -'01 rap board trolls here on indie rock/euro-techno.com for the past 4 years and are using terms i created by accident 6 years ago like "nerd-rap" in this very thread.

We Don King-ed the original Def Jux/white rapper backlash and orchestrated Cage getting herbed on air, El P justifying his relevance to rap before taking his message board down in a fit of rage and Vordul getting knocked out at his own show over 5 years ago..

..you are some hick who writes for indie rock websites, who "got through hs by listening to Smut Peddlers" and who got his head gassed up from the lames on this site by having slightly better taste in rap than utterly clueless bitchmade jewish rap fans from Minnesota like Nate Patrin

Play yer position here, lil' man

― ELLI$, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

are you fucking kidding

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

how old are you anyway?

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

i mean arent you like 30

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

See, this is what happens when you let hardcore punk fans "discover" rap

― disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Karp ruled.

Worst Case Scenario were probably the last great hardcore band of the 90s before the whole scene turned lame. The 7" on Lookout is probably their best release. I was also at that show in R.I. Very underrated group.

Young Ginns were, at best, decent.

Unwound wise, i'm a "new plastic ideas" and all the 7" s around that time (teh one on Gravity, "m.k ultra"/"totality" and the one on Troubleman) kinda guy.

I never checked the Replikants.

-- ELLI$ (ayo88...), November 10th, 2005.

YOU'RE THE LAST REAL NIGGA ALIVE

― disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

(also you probably wouldn't be listening to rap if it weren't for Rick Rubin, shove your anti-semitism up your ughh.com ass)

― disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

..but hes a long haired nerd rap fag now

sage francis is 100% garbage, shit aint even rap music

lol on both counts

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

for real, maybe hating on def jux was funny in the cann ox/fan dam era but nobody even rolls with em now

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Karp ruled.
Worst Case Scenario were probably the last great hardcore band of the 90s before the whole scene turned lame. The 7" on Lookout is probably their best release. I was also at that show in R.I. Very underrated group.
Young Ginns were, at best, decent.
Unwound wise, i'm a "new plastic ideas" and all the 7" s around that time (teh one on Gravity, "m.k ultra"/"totality" and the one on Troubleman) kinda guy.
I never checked the Replikants.
-- ELLI$ (ayo88...), November 10th, 2005.
YOU'RE THE LAST REAL NIGGA ALIVE

-- disco violence (discoviolenc...), January 3rd, 2006. (disco violence)

hahhaha ooouch!

altho....ELLI$ is right about Karp and earlier Unwoud- sweet stuff!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

using terms i created by accident 6 years ago like "nerd-rap" in this very thread.

― 'Twan (miccio), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

ok yall was i this embarrassing back in the day??

― $#@!!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

as long as you never told anyone on a message board to "play your position", then no.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i hear that, a grown man e-thuggin bout who dissed sage francis on the internet first is some pathetic shit

― $#@!!!, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

ethan I hold you somewhat responsible for poseurs like ellis here

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

i said the same thing to eddie vedder once

― 'Twan (miccio), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

and now look at him

― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.rexfordgbrown.com/its_your_fault.jpg

― yuengling participle (rotten03), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

lately i only fuck with that gza/muggs album anywayz

― $#@!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

in conclusion quit tryna be me 4 yrs ago

I'm in TEARS right now

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - is that good then? i'm liking the ghostface/trife da god cd

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

real real lyrical

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

seriously is that grandmasters record any good or were you being sarcastic? i can never tell. i like the idea of it but i thought it was for corny old dudes (like me) and i wouldn't wanna join a club that would have me for a member etc.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

nah dude i played that like 6000 times since it dropped - 'patriotic huslters that killed for presidents / concealed the truth but cant hide the evidence / under the watchful eye of federal agents / collecting cans while they were disguised as vagrants'

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

does muggs still "have it" ?

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

fake rza beats???? yes

― $#@!!!!, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

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Mission of Burma is gully as hell. I'm rocking their new iTunes live EP. Church.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

MISSION OF BURMA = DUD

GANG GREEN = CLASSIC

ME = ICON

MATT HELGESON = GAY

― ELLI$ HE1GESON, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

there are better ways to wind people up, ELLI$

― $#@#!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, claiming Gang Green is a good band is a cry for help.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

aight that last post was not me - 'wind people up'??

― $#@#@!!!, Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

EP, I always told you that eventually one of your Stans would try to gun you down

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

through the looking glass here, folks

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

ETHAN =

http://www.faceparty.com/public/18/images/juddnelson_618583.jpg

― ELLI$ PADGETT, Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

and also that constantly using nonsense pseudonyms makes it MUCH easier for them to impersonate you (xp)

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Live Through This is gully as hell

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

2.7 for everyone today.

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.vassarclements.com/pics/g4b.jpg

"The Bluefield Boys", 1940's - Gerald Clements, Vassar,
Bobby Green, Carroll Clements, Ellis Padgett

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

lmao @ "netceeing" beef outsonning a wite kid

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

lol @ esoteric outselling cena

-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 5th, 2006.

lmao @ esoteric calling himself 'esoterrorist'

-- $#@$!!! ($...), January 5th, 2006.

who does he think he is, hakim bey?

-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 5th, 2006.

― ,,,,,,,,,, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

haha wtf

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

2.7 for everyone today.

-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 5th, 2006.

― ,,,,,,,,, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

kudos

― sanskrit, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

hoo boy

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:51 (eighteen years ago)

RIP.

― jim, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

I say this way too much as it is, but... hahahaha oh maaaaaaan

― bernard snowy, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

Ellis was a flame that burned too soon.

-- Dom Passantino, Thursday, March 1, 2007 9:38 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Link

― deej, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

who does he think he is, hakim bey?

-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 5th, 2006.

that shit is classic

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

ILM SINCE 2000
HARVELL = SHOOK

-- ELLI$ PADGETT, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:55 (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

qft

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 6 July 2007 07:23 (eighteen years ago)

this thread could have saved the world

― J0hn D., Sunday, 8 July 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

I like Sage Francis.

― Jeff, Sunday, 8 July 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

no necro in this thread?

― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 8 July 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

ELLI$, you are making me ashamed to be an Unwound fan.

-- M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:49 (1 year ago) Link

― and what, Saturday, 22 September 2007 13:30 (seventeen years ago)

hahaha love m@tt no homo

― deej, Saturday, 22 September 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago)

eric bey & hakim

― am0n, Saturday, 22 September 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

that was the best part

― s1ocki, Saturday, 22 September 2007 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

White Doodz rap about Philip K Dick and Natalie Portman, amirite?

― mulla atari, Sunday, 23 September 2007 03:25 (seventeen years ago)

IML ILIKE ELP THE BEATS ARE GOOD THE RAPOING ISNYT AS UP TO SNUFF UNDIEINDIE RAPPERS ARENT M,Y BAG BUT I LIKE THE BEATS

― latebloomer, Sunday, 23 September 2007 03:31 (seventeen years ago)

i'm a bit durnk rite now but this thred is like the best thing ever.

― gff, Sunday, 23 September 2007 03:57 (seventeen years ago)

Who uses the phrase "Don't taze me, bro" in a song first?

a) Aesop Rock
b) MC Paul Barman
c) Sage Francis
d) Camron comes up with it on his own

― mulla atari, Sunday, 23 September 2007 04:23 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.definitivejux.net/news/895

― Ron Polarik, PhD (and what), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago)

I'm not buying it from Wayne, he's way more just plain "dumb" then he is "avante guard" or "strange". We all have known that guy who is as dumb as a pile of bricks, who would get stoned and say crazy off the wall shit. That guy isn't a genius, he's slow and his brain can't handle deep thoughts so it spits out random nuggets of nonsense that HAPPEN to be funny. Wayne is the rap equivalent to that guy.

There's no argument here that he has vastly improved since he first came out with the Cash Money Millionaires but even with that improvement, he's still just Lil Wayne.

haha wow

― some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ esoteric outselling cena
-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 5th, 2006.

HOES ALL OVER THE WORLD
I GOT MORE STYLE THAN A RIC FLAIR ROBE

― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago)

y'know who else is terrible? that soulja boy character!

― mensrightsguy (internet person), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.prefixmag.com/site_media/uploads/images/in_text/features/b/blockhead/259Blockhead-2.jpg

― you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

posted in the cut and i'm lookin for a blockhead

― you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

i won't lie, i still really like some of the beats on labor days

― some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

I stopped reading definitive jux dot net a few years ago

― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:07 (sixteen years ago)

they jumped out, and hit his ass with the taser
fifty thousand volts turned him into joe frazier

― Dr. Yakubius (and what), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

lol @ bix biderbecke outselling louis armstrong

haw

― velko, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 03:55 (fifteen years ago)

Not in a -'You have a vagina so I think you're stupid' kinda way but more in a - 'I rarely meet a girl who I think is cool' - kinda way. To be fair, I rarely meet a cool guy either but I can bond with dumb men about shit like sports and tits so it lessens the issue. As much as I feel like a total misogynist sometimes when I think about it, I'm nowhere near as bad as certain guys, and those certain guys are?

Normal guys.

― SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 09:09 (fifteen years ago)

was checkin out the phi1afl@va board where rollie pemberton used to post, shit is all "fag" jokes & ppl trying to come up w/ the most estalker-y ways of talking shit & getting each others' skin, basically the kind of environment elli$ was spawned in. real depressing to read tbh

― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

there are some good people at pf that know their shit but yeah reading it for more than five minutes makes me despair.

― david cam'ron (tpp), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago)

pretty sure i know who this elli$ guy is too haha

― david cam'ron (tpp), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

gang green is better than i give them credit for on this thread tbh

― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

yeah its a good spot to keep an eye out for record leaks & shit you may have missed but the level of discourse about actual music is awful

― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:29 (fifteen years ago)

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