"Lust For Life" Vs. "Exile On Main St."

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Lust For Life, the greatest fucking album of the 70s.

Regular John (Regular John), Monday, 2 January 2006 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Lust for Life isn't even as good as New Values

Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Monday, 2 January 2006 10:45 (twenty years ago)

dear god, neither

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Monday, 2 January 2006 10:46 (twenty years ago)

Lust.

Stephen C (ihope), Monday, 2 January 2006 11:12 (twenty years ago)

These days I prefer The Idiot. And Exile is fuckin' great.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 2 January 2006 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Like it's even a competition...Lust for Life...EVERY. DAMN. TIME.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 January 2006 15:16 (twenty years ago)

how about a YSI of Lust For Life?

roberton, Monday, 2 January 2006 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Exile on Main Street, hands down.

Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Monday, 2 January 2006 17:13 (twenty years ago)

both fucking awesome albums - ive been listening to exile a lot lately, so ill say that one.

don't start a RYE-OTT! (plsmith), Monday, 2 January 2006 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Great albums both, certainly two of the best rock albums of the '70s. Not a lot to choose between them, but I think I'd go for Exile - the Stones are perhaps my favourite rock band ever.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 2 January 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Lust for Life isn't even as good as New Values

what?

geoff (gcannon), Monday, 2 January 2006 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Exile

sovietpanda (sovietpanda), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Lust for Life isn't even as good as New Values

what?

Well it isn't! Here's Lust For Life:
Lust for Life
Sixteen
Some Weird Sin
The Passenger
Tonight
Success
Turn Blue
Neighborhood Threat
Fall In Love With Me

and here's New Values:
Tell Me A Story
New Values
Girls
I'm Bored
Don't Look Down
The Endless Sea
Five Foot One
How Do Ya Fix A Broken Part
Angel
Curiosity
African Man
Billy Is A Runaway

Now, from Lust for Life we get the undeniably brilliant title track, the insanely great "Sixteen" which might as well be a Stooges song, "Success" which is a career highwater mark as far as I'm concerned though it feels very much like a Bowie envisioning of an Iggy song, the awesome "Turn Blue" - and from the rest, some great Iggy moments admidst what are to me just not as much fun as the more forward-looking, less garage-band fetishising stuff on New Values: "Billy Is a Runaway" is one of Iggy's alltime greatest, "Don't Look Down" is a Pop/Williamson number that's not trying to re-create the Stooges era = it's more interesting to me than "let's do that Stooges style!", the title track which is fucking awesome and has such a fucking great Iggy vocal it makes my hands shake just thinking about it, "Tell Me A Story" is a totally killer lyric AND vocal AND performance AND riff and especially melody, just terrific. Throw "Five Foot One" and the very weird and atmospheric "The Endless Sea" and "Angel" in and the whole groove is just more distinctive to me: Lust for Life is sure great, love it, and the "Jesus? this is Iggy" moment is just heartstoppingly great, but New Values has that let's-try-something-new feel to it that just works for me. I love Bowie but he's a pastiche artist, and it shows on Lust for Life; New Values has Scott Thurston doing all kinds of neat Tom Verlainey turns of phrase on the guitar, fuckin' Klaus Kruger on drums holding down the fort, and Iggy in lean & hungry form throughout. Yeah yeah, the Sales brothers, I know, that jubilant murderous garage stomp from the gates of paradise, but the New Values record just provides more thrills per minute for me and more gristle to chew overall.


Of course, it also has "African Man," a strong candidate for "worst song ever written, recorded or released by anyone," so that's a mark against it.

Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:26 (twenty years ago)

One of Iggy Pop's better moments compared to the most overrated Stones album ever.

I generally like Stones a lot better, but having to choose between those two, I think I'll go for Iggy this time around. "The Idiot" is even better though.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:31 (twenty years ago)

more like one of the most overrated things iggy has been associated with vs. probably the only stones album thats listenable all the way through.

white hole (white hole), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:50 (twenty years ago)

I'm with John. New Values kicks LFL's ass. Shit, I'll stick up for all the Arista discs. "Mr. Dynamite," "Bang Bang," "Knockin' Em Down In The City," "Dog Food"...great songs on those albums.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:51 (twenty years ago)

i'll absolutely take The Idiot over both every single time... but I'd take Lust for Life for the question asked... and I'll be diving deeper into New Values asap

Dave McDougall (davelus), Monday, 2 January 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)

I'm with John. New Values kicks LFL's ass. Shit, I'll stick up for all the Arista discs. "Mr. Dynamite," "Bang Bang," "Knockin' Em Down In The City," "Dog Food"...great songs on those albums.

I really love Party myself - it's pretty loaded with filler, but "Pumping for Jill"? Straight CLASSIC - Ivan Kral had one great ear...was Zombie Birdhouse still Arista? That had "Run Like a Villain," which was terrific, and I remember it as having a pretty distinct feeling - which is what I like about late-seventies/early eighties Iggy: he's sort of off in his own boat! more so than in the Bowie period to my ears.

Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Monday, 2 January 2006 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Oh, the OP wasn't joking? um, Exile.

ZR (teenagequiet), Monday, 2 January 2006 23:06 (twenty years ago)

It's been awhile since I've listened to New Values but I will have to correct that situation quickly.

Nice passionate review of New Values there!

As much as I dig Lust For Life, I could never go against Exile on Main Street. So Exile it is.

Jeff K (jeff k), Monday, 2 January 2006 23:20 (twenty years ago)

Easy, Exile every day.

TRG (TRG), Monday, 2 January 2006 23:45 (twenty years ago)

Absolutely not. The dog must have eaten your homework. Iggy Pop is not to be compared to the Stones, lest the Stones lose badly.

Tomato Voyeur (Bimble...), Monday, 2 January 2006 23:47 (twenty years ago)

Exile. I don't need to do homework anymore.

truck-patch pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Monday, 2 January 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm surprized this is so divisive.

Stephen C (ihope), Monday, 2 January 2006 23:53 (twenty years ago)

exile. duh.

JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:33 (twenty years ago)

Exile On Main Street, every fuckin' time.

Mama Roux, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 11:45 (twenty years ago)

Exile as it's the only stones album i still listen to every now and then (been watching cocksucker blues again last week end too !).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 12:01 (twenty years ago)

Lust For Life, the greatest fucking album of the 70s.

What?! It's not even Iggy's best album of the 1970s (that would be Funhouse).

I like both Life and Exile a lot, but, even though I listen to Life considerably more, I'm going to side with the Stones on this one.

Vic Funk, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 12:28 (twenty years ago)

Mr. Straight Toxic - brilliant stuff on New Values, one of my alltime favorite Pop-albums. Also, thanks for reminding me to finish my '79 - '82 Iggy CDR :-) (which contains "Run Like a Villain", naturellement. Zombie Birdhouse was originally released on producer Chris Stein's Animal Records)

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Sticky Fingers

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:38 (twenty years ago)

TS: "Real Wild One" vs "Harlem Shuffle"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:41 (twenty years ago)

"What?! It's not even Iggy's best album of the 1970s (that would be Funhouse)."

Take Funhouse against Exile on Main St. and you have your self a real fight. I love Exile, but I think I'd take Funhouse between those two.

earlnash, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)

TS: "Real Wild One" vs "Harlem Shuffle"

Candy.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:33 (twenty years ago)

Exile is crap. Lust is crap. apart from ~The Passender~ one of the best air guitar songs of all time. ~Sticky Fingers~ is the one. ....."here i lie, in my hearts diss-obey, tell me sister morphine, are you cummin round again.... ooo...and i don't think that i can wait that long... "Grow a Brain you lot"

peter. g. b., Saturday, 14 January 2006 10:15 (twenty years ago)

Lust for Life isn't even as good as New Values

Amen to that

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Saturday, 14 January 2006 11:58 (twenty years ago)

... and, of course, "Kill City" is better than both!

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Saturday, 14 January 2006 11:59 (twenty years ago)


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