i know "unfair advantage" is problematic - and it all kind of depends on what you think a critic's job is, so bear with me here...
i kind of tend to love this kind of stuff when I first hear it and then get bored kinda quick but i do like the very same timeliness that maybe ultimately makes it seem dated - i like the almost bumper-stickerish level of lyrics like "most people are DJ's" or "i heard your band sold their guitars and bought turntables/i heard your band sold their turntables and bought guitars" - or even more specific stuff like when jay-z talks about talib & common in "moment of clarity"
also who else fits this profile? and who did the songs about songs thing first? i can only think of "life is a rock but the radio rolled me" by reunion off the top of the dome which is like the "losing my edge" of AM gold
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)
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― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:27 (twenty years ago)
Does "The Roc ism in the building" count?
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)
Read this and throw up in your own mouth out of embarrassment:
"GlamorousIndie rock'n'roll is what I needIt's in my soul, it's what I needIndie rock'n'roll, it's time Two of usFlipping through a thrift store magazineShe plays the drums, I'm on tambourineBet your, your bottom dollar on me
It's Indie rock'n'roll for meIt's Indie rock'n'roll for meIt's all I needIt's Indie rock'n'roll for me
In a clutchI'm talking every word for all the boysElectric girls with worn down toysMake it up, break it up, what do you careOh what do you care?
I take my twist with a shoutA coffee shop with a cause, then I'll freak you outNo sex, no drugs, no life, no loveWhen it comes to today
Stay if you wanna love me, stayOh don't be shy, let's cause a sceneLike lovers do on silver screensLet's make it yeah, we'll cause a scene
In a clutchI'm talking every word for all the boysIt's Indie rock'n'roll for meIt's all I needMakin' up, breakin' up, what do you careWhat do you care?It's Indie rock'n'roll for me
Two of usFlipping through a thrift store magazineIt's Indie rock'n'roll for meIt's all I needMakin' up, breakin' up, what do you careWhat do you care?It's Indie rock'n'roll for me"
― Ron Mexico, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:00 (twenty years ago)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:07 (twenty years ago)
― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:10 (twenty years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:14 (twenty years ago)
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― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)
― Ron Mexico (Ron Mexico), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:24 (twenty years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)
sebadoh: gimme indie rock
― marc h. (marc h.), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:36 (twenty years ago)
― blunt (blunt), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:39 (twenty years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:41 (twenty years ago)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:21 (twenty years ago)
"Paul Johnson, DJ Funk, DJ Sneak, DJ Rush, Waxmaster, Hyperactive, Jammin Gerald, Brian Wilson, George Clinton, Lil' Louis, Ashley Beedle, Neil Landstrumm, Kenny Dope, DJ Hell, Louie Vega, K Alexi, Dr. Dre, Armando, Gemini, Jeff Mills, DJ Deeon, DJ Milton, DJ Slugo, Green Velvet, Joey Beltram, DJ ? (sounds like 'Ast'), Roy Davis, Boo Williams, DJ Tonka, DJ Skull, DJ Pierre, Mike ? (sounds like 'Damon'), Todd Edwards, Romanthony, CVO, Luke Slater, Derrick Carter, Robert Hood, Parris Mitchell, Dave Clarke, Van Helden, Armani, Surgeon".
Add assorted catchphrases "in the house" and "DJs on the low". I missed a couple but googling the pop-up ridden lyrics sites brought up insane results. Planet Earth, complete and use my list. That is all.
Oh and ! I have generally found this kind of practice involuntarily corny at best or cynically calculated at worst.
― blunt (blunt), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:38 (twenty years ago)
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― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:44 (twenty years ago)
American Pie Don McLean United Artists 5535 Released: October 1971 Chart Peak: #1 Weeks Charted: 48 Certified Gold: 1/3/72Don McLean's "American Pie" has ripped out of nowhere and taken the country by storm both in its album and truncated single versions. It took exactly two weeks to shoot to the top of the charts, everybody I know has been talking excitedly about it since first hearing, and, even more surprisingly, it has united listeners of musical persuasions as diverse as Black Sabbath and Phil Ochs in unbridled enthusiasm for both its message and its musical qualities.
All of which is not so surprising once you've heard it, because it is a brilliant song, a metaphor for the death and rebirth of rock that's at once complex and immediately accessible. For the last couple of years critics and audience alike have been talking abut the Death of Rock, or at least the fragmentation of all our 1967 dreams of anthemic unity. And, inevitably, somebody has written a song about it. About Dylan, Buddy Holly, the Beatles, Stones, Byrds, Janis and others. About where we've been, the rush of exhilaration we felt at the pinnacle, and the present sense of despair. Don McLean has taken all this and set it down in language that has unmistakable impact the first time you hear it, and leaves you rubbing your chin -- "Just what did that line mean?" -- with further listenings because you know it's all about something you've felt and lived through. A very 1967ish song, in fact, in the way it makes you dig for deeper meaning, but not the least bit mawkish.
It opens with a slow, mournful sequence abut reading the headlines about the deaths of Buddy Holly, Richie Valens and the Big Bopper while delivering papers as a child, then into the chorus: "Bye bye, Miss American Pie/Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry/Them good ole boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye/And sayin' this'll be the day that I die." Then all at once it rears up and charges through the years in a giddy rush: "I was a lonely teenage bronckin' buck/With a pink carnation and a pickup truck," the "Book of Love," sock hops in the gym and puppy jealousy, and then into the heart of the myth, where Dylan is a Jester "in a coat he borrowed from James Dean," laughing at the king "in a voice that came from you and me."
The halycon days of Sgt. Pepper are brilliantly caught: "The half-time air was sweet perfume/As Sergeants played a marching tune," but suddenly the Jester is on the sidelines in a cast, the stage is taken by Jack Flash ("Fire is the devil's only friend"), and Altamont, the Angels and the despairing resentment the Stones left many fans pass in a dark panorama. Finally coming down to the levee again, where the good old boys are draining the bottles and talking as if it's all over, as they did when the plane bearing "The Father, Son and the Holy Ghost" fell and as they will again and again through the years. It's just the old Calvinist sense of impending apocalypse and perdition, but they're good old boys anyway and we can't resent them because we too "believe in rock 'n' roll/And [that] music can save your mortal soul." Because they're us.
"American Pie" is a song of the year, and its music is just as strong as those lyrics, propelled with special resonance by the piano of Paul Griffin, who played with the Jester when his myth was at pinnacle. If you've ever cried because of a rock & roll band or album, or lain awake nights wondering or sat up talking through the dawn about Our Music and what it all means and where it's all going and why, if you've ever kicked off your shoes to dance or wished you had the chance, if you ever believed in Rock & Roll, you've got to have this album.
- Lester Bangs, Rolling Stone, 1-20-72.
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)
― Ron Mexico (Ron Mexico), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:08 (twenty years ago)
Destroyer big time
Pavement did some of this, too ... the Smashing Pumpkins / STP lyrics in "Range Life" (which definitely feel dated now) and that one b-side that was all about R.E.M. ....
― Renard, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)
if so, they've been beaten to it by more than a few people
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:46 (twenty years ago)
"Brucie dreams / Life's a highway / Too many roads bypass my way / Or they never begin [...] But look at us now / (stop drivin) / some things hurt more much more than cars and girls"
― Herr Fahrstuhl, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 23:21 (twenty years ago)
where do answer songs like kitty wells' "it wasn't got who made honky-tonk angels" fit into this? that's certainly a song about a song, though i'd argue she's not talking about "wild side of life" the way a critic would; she's talking about it the way an average woman would. for whatever that's worth.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 5 January 2006 06:52 (twenty years ago)
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― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:41 (twenty years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 5 January 2006 21:02 (twenty years ago)
The group cut the recordThe record hit the chartsSomeone in the newspaper said that it was artDisco Casanovas had it heavy on their breathThe local teenybopper band was playing it to death
They called it rock
xxxThe boys are getting hotThey're jetting off to Rio and some other sunny spotsSome senorita said "The singer sounds terrific"Their personal appearances are stopping the traffic
Hey long distance, it's a rock and roll romanceCBS are gonna pay a great big advanceHey Atlantic, come on and take a chanceArista say they love it but the kids can't dance to it
They cut another record It never was a hit'Cause someone in the newspaper said it was shitThe drummer is a bookieThe singer is a whoreThe bass player's selling clothes he never would've wore
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 5 January 2006 22:44 (twenty years ago)
Tired epileptic charadeGet on the plane and fly awayI knew you whenI knew you when You had something to sayThe Twentieth CenturyHas not been particularly kind to meSo when asked to defineYou feign the benignAnd you decline to answer properly
You feel threatened nowThere's other icons flying higher nowAs you grab for the pastYou know it won't lastThere's no need to describe it
I hope someone else is driving youI hope someone else intelligent is driving youNow the myth disintegratesNothing else is permanent
― Terrible Cold (Terrible Cold), Thursday, 5 January 2006 23:00 (twenty years ago)
My own selections.
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Image search results for Robert Smith(?)
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