T/S : Bill Wyman vs Al Jardine

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lame 5th wheels just along for the ride in quintets (classic line-ups anyway) full of seriously talented people or underutilized secret weapons?

anna graham, Sunday, 8 January 2006 03:47 (twenty years ago)

al jardine has a really great voice. "help me rhonda."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 8 January 2006 04:40 (twenty years ago)

i love that story about bill wyman falling off the stage and the stones not noticing until the next song. I have no idea if its true, but I hope it is.

Zwan (miccio), Sunday, 8 January 2006 04:49 (twenty years ago)

Al. "Beaks of Eagles" destroys "In Another Land."

John Hunter, Sunday, 8 January 2006 08:21 (twenty years ago)

Bill Wyman has a more interesting family tree:

1993

Patsy Smith, 46, mother of Wyman's ex-wife Mandy, marries Wyman's son Stephen, 30. It is observed that this union will make Bill not only the father-in-law of his former mother-in-law, but also the step-grandfather of his former wife.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 8 January 2006 11:08 (twenty years ago)

bill did "come back suzanne ".brilliant grove.
did alan do solo songs ?

retrokid, Sunday, 8 January 2006 11:31 (twenty years ago)

bill did "come back suzanne ".brilliant grove.
did alan do solo songs ?

that tree is funny strage and funny humourous.if bill has sex with anyone is it incest ?

retrokid, Sunday, 8 January 2006 11:33 (twenty years ago)

Why no love for Al's tour de force: How She Boogaloo'd It?

S-O-C-K I-T To Me!

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Sunday, 8 January 2006 17:57 (twenty years ago)

The entire Bill Wyman album is a New Wave-meets-Goon Show near-masterpiece. Massively underrated solo artist.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002R9L/qid=1136769166/sr=1-13/ref=sr_1_13/102-3186009-2972105?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

And how about that "Miss You" bassline? Disco heaven.

Jody, Monday, 9 January 2006 01:14 (twenty years ago)

The bass on Miss You was played by Richards.

bahto habito, Monday, 9 January 2006 03:52 (twenty years ago)

No, it wasn't -- not according to album credits. The Stones were pretty forthright about album credits (Ronnie's credited on Emotional Rescue's "Dance, Pt 1" and the title song, fer instance); and I read an interview a couple of years ago in which Wyman described how he came up with the "Miss You" bassline.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 9 January 2006 04:03 (twenty years ago)

both are underrated...

talcum kid, Monday, 9 January 2006 07:31 (twenty years ago)

"Miss You"'s bassline is fab indeed, but howbout "Sympathy For The Devil"? "We Love You"? "Undercover Of The Night"?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 9 January 2006 09:26 (twenty years ago)

and wyman had the original idea of jumpin jackflash so it's a no brainer...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 9 January 2006 10:46 (twenty years ago)

the bassline on sympathy was keith's (see "one+one" by godard).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 9 January 2006 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Jumping Jack Flash was Keith and Mick (inspiration based on Keith's gardener) - not Bill.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Monday, 9 January 2006 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Jumping Jack Flash was Keith and Mick (inspiration based on Keith's gardener) - not Bill.


no, no, the original idea was a bass riff bill was playing during a rehearsal and keith liked it and asked him to keep playing it until he found the "main riff" (i was there. i was also there when pilate whashed his hands and sealed someone's fate...).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 9 January 2006 14:51 (twenty years ago)

That story is correct, except I'm pretty sure Bill was dicking around on the organ instead of bass.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 9 January 2006 14:55 (twenty years ago)

That story is correct, except I'm pretty sure Bill was dicking around on the organ instead of bass.

hum... now that you mention it, i think you're right. must have been the organ. but i suppose he was playing the notes of the bass line on the organ, yes ?

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 9 January 2006 15:19 (twenty years ago)

five years pass...

Al Jardine is a guy who is basically not covered at all in the stuff I have read about the Beach Boys. I get the feeling he was kinda conservative, just a guy who keeps to himself? Or is this the image I have made up for him due to lack of information? Also, the guy appears to be about Prince-height, eg petit.

Winter Crab (Abbbottt), Thursday, 7 April 2011 00:21 (fifteen years ago)

"California Saga" was funnier before I realized that it was Al Jardine, not Mike Love, who recited the spoken word bits in "Beaks of Eagles". I just really liked the idea of the guy who had once gotten in a huff over the line "over and over the crow cries uncover the cornfield" discovering harder drugs, loosening up a little, and deciding a few years later that it would be a good idea to have a Beach Boys song about wagonloads of bodies and meteors plowing the wilderness. in a way I respect Al for masterminding one of the BB's weirdest but most satisfying post-Smile moments, but in another way I resent him for somehow spoiling a good lol.

administratieve blunder (unregistered), Thursday, 7 April 2011 03:43 (fifteen years ago)

Are there any good Beach Boys books that could give me a Jardine fact infusion? The one I read, while totally entertaining & ridiculous, was p much only about Dennis & Brian, with a moderate amount of Mike lols punctuating the exploits of the two Wilsons.

Winter Crab (Abbbottt), Thursday, 7 April 2011 03:59 (fifteen years ago)

Brian Wilson's autobiography is all I've ever read, so I can't really help you there. Brian, Mike, and Dennis are such baffling, fucked up human beings, it's kinda inevitable that they overshadow straight-shooters like Al and Bruce Johnston in virtually all Beach Boys discourse/mythology.

administratieve blunder (unregistered), Thursday, 7 April 2011 04:24 (fifteen years ago)

Al was all training to be a dentist before the Beach Boys, which fits somehow. Al >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill W.

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2011 08:57 (fifteen years ago)


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