Are we apathetic?

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So, new research reckons downloading makes us apathetic.

Read the BBC article here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4599340.stm

Leaving aside the questionable assumption that a thirst for live music is somehow responsible for the X Factor, what do you think?

I assumed that the fires of fandom dying down were a result of no longer being a teenager, likewise, the fact I know more about more random things could also be put down to being older, although I do concede the net has probably played a part in speeding things up.

Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 11:05 (twenty years ago)

You could argue that genres like hip-hop and acid house (or even punk rock) had already begun to undermine the value/appreciation of 'songs and performances', but then say the same about rock n' roll re classical music, and on and on. I've never really appreciated live music 'properly' anyway, long before downloading.

The increased level of access to music has made people realise how much they're missing as well as how much more they can gain. It's a fine balance but I've become almost intimidated by some genres as they've developed in tandem with my own age. I put it down to that rather than 'things being easier makes people take it for granted' although there may still be some element of truth in that.

But because of the sheer volume of what's out there and how readily it can be accessed, this actually works in preserving that sense of excitement when you do actually find something special. For example, I spent a good hour or so listening to stuff on bleep.com before Ryan Teague's 'Prelude 1' stopped me in my tracks (and to hear that performed live would be brilliant). I would never have heard this track any other way. This also applies to the growth of music TV channels - better interactivity has helped in enabling people to find stuff for themselves rather than just chance upon something as dictated by another's (or a computer's) scheduling. Interactive/on-demand TV is now one of the main ways I hear/see new music I like e.g. Rhymefest's new single - but then I never listen to radio at the moment. I'm convinced these technologies have made things more good than bad re music appreciation.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Whatever.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Don't psychologists have anything better to do these days? What's he trying to prove? That music was life-changing and Special in the 19th century? It still is today. But it has also become a soundtrack to everyday life. Which may or may not be because of downloading, internet and mp3 players. (Why doesn't he mention radio and commercially available music? Those two are surely partly responsible for the de-Specialisation of music as well?)

My guess: Dr. North's research was sponsored by the recording industry ("downloading bad") but personally, he's a classical music elitist ("19th century good").

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 11:59 (twenty years ago)

(what's the classical version of rockist?)

I guess I'm saying that Dr. North is a classicist. :-)

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 12:03 (twenty years ago)

doctors say there's a cure for apathy but no-one cares.

retrogurl, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 12:34 (twenty years ago)

I think the most obvious flaw here is that the phenomenon the article describes has MUCH more to do with the proliferation of recorded music itself than with downloading. Before downloading you could burn CDs, before you could burn CDs you could make copies on tapes, before tapes there was still plenty of radio and relatively inexpensive vinyl.

I heard a historian the other day on NPR talking about how before recorded music, pieces of music were much more connected to their social functions -- you listened to dance music at a dance. You heard seasonal pieces performed during their season. You couldn't, as this guy put it, take a Bach Mass and listen to it in the bathtub on a Wednesday morning.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 13:14 (twenty years ago)

And the article, at least, does not make clear whether this researcher actually compared our generation to any previous ones.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 13:15 (twenty years ago)

(what's the classical version of rockist?)

Bachist?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Mozartist? (do you think Morrissey is a Mozartist?)

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)


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