The Origins of Electronic Music (question/favor)

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I'm writing a paper on the origins of electronic music and would appreciate it if anyone could direct me to related articles / information of note which could be useful for reference.

Thanks, in advance.

Turangalila (Salvador), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

thom holmes 'electronic and experimental music' paperback edition

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0415936446/104-6461741-8675115?v=glance&n=283155

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

The newly reissued "Ohm" boxed set is a great source of info and important names. Steve Toop's "Ocean Of Sound" book has some solid info too.

Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for the heads up, guys.

Yeah, I already have that newish OHM boxed set. It's sweet.

Turangalila (Salvador), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a fun timeline:

http://eamusic.dartmouth.edu/~wowem/electronmedia/music/eamhistory.html

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

on a related note, my favorite Max Matthews interview to date just came out in the latest issue of YLEM Journal, clearly going over the climate at Bell Labs and the birth of Computer Music in the late 50's. also a very clear interview with John Chowning. It's not online yet, but it will be: http://www.ylem.org/Journal/

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

The Theremin and Moog documentaries are stellar.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

is there a non-wack (meaning no DJ Spooky) doc about Moog that i missed?

Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

Get some music by Raymond Scott. Actually, that whole beginning of electronic music comp that Dominique reviewed in Pitchfork would be important for you to get. I wish I could remember the name of that.

It felt like this tire blew out but it was both of them, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

...seconded! Have a look at http://www.raymondscott.com/

Jez (Jez), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

This might be useful too:

120 Years of Electronic Music

Battle Raper II (noodle vague), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

great link. jenny's ondioline! (i am ignorant)

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

the "electronic sound" book by joel chadabe is the best overview i've read. what specifically is your paper about?

lindsay bell kay labs (bell_labs), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0133032310/102-4262264-2872912?v=glance&n=283155

this book.

lindsay bell kay labs (bell_labs), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I just ordered that yesterday, having never seen a copy for under $70 before. Reviews suggest his book goes deep into the evolution & development of the technology, but goes comparatively light on coverage of the music. But no one would know more about this than Chadabe.

Holmes' book certainly doesn't skimp on the technology (best description of the Teleharmonium I've read yet) but also has some great listening lists, and covers people outside slightly outside of the academic net (like Raymond Scott). There's an invaluable chart that lists the major tape/electronic pieces by the studios in which they were produced, and not by the composer, which really helps you get a grip on where the various sounds/aesthetics came from.

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

holy god that moog documentary was boring. did I miss something (highly possible, my attention was constantly on the verge of waning), or did he have to start interviewing people about himself?

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

i would try getting to people at princeton, nyu, ucla, etc that had big centers of electronics. you should be able to do email interviews with people that were there towards the begingings or worked with for those people

there was an old magazine that came from a center in trumansburg (outside of ithaca, ny where moog was for a while)that covered a lot of new electronic music. i cant think of what it was called, but i'd bet the cornell library has copies in its library and perhaps digitally.

these are more primary research ideas, of course

bb (bbrz), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, everyone. I ordered Holmes' book today, Milton. Should be here soon.

Turangalila (Salvador), Thursday, 19 January 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

That Chadabe book is great. I can't believe it's $70! I bought at my college bookstore like 4 years ago!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 January 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

Not exactly what you're looking for but here's a web (flash) primer on electronic music that's not too shabby, with glossary & examples :
http://img.uoregon.edu/emi/emi.php

More like what you're looking for ...but in French,
http://sonhors.free.fr

I have "Electronic and Computer Music" by Joel Manning on Oxford U Press, good not but esp. heavy on beginnings specifically.

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 19 January 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

You may also want to try Analog Days : The Invention and Impact of the Moog Synthesizer, though it covers a time when electronic music was in its post-origin days.

Also (SHAMELESS SELF-PROMOTION AHOY!) take a look at this, y'all.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

nice work, any list that starts off with emil richards' is ok with me

"analog days" is pretty great. as you said, its less about the origin than it is about the race to develop synthesizers for the commercial arena. this falls down to buchla vs. moog in the 60's, and then increasingly moog vs. his competitors in the 70's. neat tidbits about how the ARP reverse-engineered the moog & had to be sued to stop, great descriptions of tonto's work on the stevie wonder records. the book is written with an entrepreneur's mind, it goes into the reasons for moog's commercial success a bit too fawningly for my tastes -- I think it's a bit unfair to buchla simply because he was unable to build a business. buchla was always the visionary who most people still haven't caught up with, so of course he had trouble selling his stuff -- it hurt me to see them paint it like a contest where the person who made the most money won, when buchla's the real genius

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 19 January 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Again, thanks everyone for their collaboration. It's much appreciated!

Turangalila (Salvador), Friday, 20 January 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Did any of Buchla's synthesizers ever show up on any commercial recordings of any renown whatsoever, Milton?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Unless you count something non-pop like Silver Apples of the Moon, the only thing I know of that *might* qualify would be Suzanne Ciani's work for commercials.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 20 January 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

good not but esp. heavy on beginnings specifically
Not only is this complete gibberish but what I'm really saying is, the narrative begins after WW2.

blunt (blunt), Friday, 20 January 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

I can't think of many examples of non-academic or buchla use because the synth lends itself specifically towards experimental music. the things aren't that easy to learn, and they're insanely expensive

the only non-academic example I can think of offhand is the early Chrome records, and they're not exactly commercial

Ciani does qualify in that produced bizarre sound design & effects for commercials, but that's a world away from pop music

just found these:

ciani talking about the buchla
http://www.sevwave.com/ciani/interviews/wright/c_wright.html

http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.asp?storycode=11616
Approximate Number Manufactured: Between 100 and 200.
Original System Retail Prices : $2,000 to $30,000.

http://www.vintagesynth.com/index2.html

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Aha, I've been meaning to check out some Subotnick. And I'll have to give my Chrome records another listen. Thanks folks!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 20 January 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

bump for mp3s of instruments at http://www.obsolete.com/120_years/

I searched to hear a few of them like Univox, pianorad and Intonarumori for the past couple of minutes but got nothing so far

Sébastien, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

I would like a Sonorous Cross.

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 25 June 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

Did any of Buchla's synthesizers ever show up on any commercial recordings of any renown whatsoever, Milton?

The United States of America perhaps? And other stuff Joseph Byrd worked on - like that Phil Ochs album (forget the name). Byrd was a n associate of Buchla I believe.

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:22 (eighteen years ago)

yes that earlier answer of mine has to be wrong, the Buchla definitely made the rounds, I just can't think of any offhand. I still don't have that USA album though actually, I'm kind of saving it for later

as for recent answers, Don's son Ezra has a new band called Gowns which is very interesting, not the kind of music I'm usually into but for them somehow it really just works:
http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2006/06/ezra-buchla-king-of-all-geeks.html
http://music.calarts.edu/~ebuchla/gowns/index.html

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

If you can get access to a copy, Sutherland's 'New Perspectives in Music' has a few excellent (concise and not too technical) chapters devoted to early electroacoustic music. It was published in Britain; the only place I've seen is the UW-Madison library, but I haven't looked much. I just photo-copied the entire book.

To go back to the earliest of early electronic music, so early that it's still mechanical, some of the Futurist manifestos, including those on music, are available at http://www.unknown.nu/futurism.

J Kaw, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 04:33 (eighteen years ago)

Listen to Schaffer and Henry's Variations on A Door and A Sigh from the 1950s...isn't that the first tape piece?

iago g., Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

Here's an article from the Guardian about the '70's proggy electronic scene covering artists such as Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze and JM Jarre. It's not exactly the origins of electronic music, but definitely a good read: http://music.guardian.co.uk/electronic/story/0,,2060093,00.html

"Some had beards. Many were German. But they all had synthesisers..."

saudade, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

that Reynolds article for the Guardian is great. he's not exactly writing about what I would call the best of the 70's electronic, but it's worth saying that people seem to have forgotten just how _huge_ those TD / Jarre / Schulze records were in the 70's, they weren't obscure at the time, when you go back to those TD bootlegs of live shows you get a 40 minute sludge psyche drone that's maybe a little self-indulgent but pretty out there & avant, and then at the end you hear several thousand people start to cheer and it occurs to you that this 'obscure' boot was recorded at the Royal Albert Hall

Henry's Variations on a Door & a Sigh is frequently checked as the concréte 'masterpiece', it's from the mid-60's. Pierre Schaeffer's Études aux chemins de fer is often called the first tape piece (even though it was cut to acetate), but every time someone tries to nail down one piece as the first, someone turns up some earlier forgotten experiment: Paul Boisselet "Symphonie Rouge • Symphonie Jaune" 1947, Halim El-Dabh "Wire Recorder Piece" 1944, Walter Ruttman "Weekend" for optical film 1930, & there are some interesting Hindemith pieces from the late 20's where an instrumentalist plays along with a varispeed acetate of himself on a turntable.

there was a hilariously overblown Rob Young piece in the Wire about the Halim El-Dabh piece tracing the legendary 'birth of electronica' to the Middle East since it was the First Piece, now we're hearing about Austrailian Jack Ellitt's Journey #1, something earlier always turns up

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)


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