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I know these have been discussed here before but I can't find the thread(s). Anyway I've got 10 of these cds now and there really is some great stuff amongst the lo-fi punk thrash majority. Most of the tracks I like are of the arty punk / new wave variety although there's plenty of harder rock US tracks that have caught my ear. I know mr hyped2death has spent years collating and 'remastering' them - so cheers to him - but I've made up a 2cd best of if anyone would like copies : just send me an email. (I actually haven't included the early Scritti tracks 'cause I've got those all on another cd).

― philT, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

revive

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 05:25 (twenty-two years ago)

you still willing to do this phil? i want i want i want.

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

I'm listening to Messthetics vol. 1 for the first time and there is some awesome stuff on it. It really gives a broad movement of British punk, moving from thrashier stuff to popier stuff to jerkier stuff to new wave-y stuff and all points in between. A lot of it has an almost indie-pop/sheen to it. This is damn good.

― xnelio, Friday, 27 June 2003 06:46 (twenty-two years ago)

ha! thnks phil...will report back.

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 27 June 2003 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...

does anyone have a tracklisting for phil's best-of (or his aussie post-punk cdr)? too embarassed to ask him; but I've been listening to the untracklisted cds for a while, & while fun, I'd like to put some names to the noise.

― etc, Monday, 1 December 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

phils a nice guy though! don't be embarrassed. or email me.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got a bunch of the Homework and Messthetics collections, and I like them a lot. How are the Bad Teeth and Teenline comps?

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

sent you an email, gaz.

btw, is anyone else as excited as I am about the 2cd slugfuckers compilation?

― Ess Kay (esskay), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

more info on the slugfuckers reissue please.

and my discs are at home so i'll do it tonight ess kay.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

apparently harbinger sound are issuing it - if you google, there's info on remastering, etc. phil will know more about it, I'm guessing.

― etc, Monday, 1 December 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

hang on, i have the tracklists here!

mess/hwork tracks

vol 1

1. 2 x 4s - Another 8 Hours of Boredom
2. 23 Skidoo - Ethics
3. A-Moms [The Algebra Mothers] - Strawberry Cheesecake
4. Alcholics - Pesticides
5. Avant Gardeners - Loose In The Sky
6. B-Lovers - Shakin
7. Beach Bullies - Windowshopping
8. Bearz - Shes My Girl
9. Beyond The Implode - This Atmosphere
10. Big In Japan - Big In Japan
11. Billy Sheers - Solo Flight
12. Bizarros - I Bizarro
13. Bizarros - Lady Dubonette
14. Bouncing Czechs - 1992
15. Brills - What Is Done
16. Carl Gustav and the 84s -
Through Birds Through Fire But Not Through Glass
17. Cherry Boys - Too Much Confusion
18. Chris Tolin - Free Charlie
19. Commercials - Simon
20. Current Obsessions - Fish
21. Honey Bane - Girl On The Run
22. Mock Turtles - Thank You For Sending Me An Eno
23. Phillipo Scrooge - Love is a Tractor
24. Realtors - Wheres My Bed
25. Record Players - 60-7
26. Reducers - We Are Normal
27. Reflections - 4 Countries
28. Rentals - New York
29. Reversible Chords - Malcontents
30. Scissor Fits - I Don't Want To Work For British Airways

vol ii

1. Screaming Urge - Homework
2. Simply Saucer - Change
3. Slits - Radio Interview
4. Snatch - Radio Ad
5. Snatch - Second Rater
6. Sneakers - Be My Ambulance
7. Sneakers - Ruby
8. Spherical Objects - Sweet Tooth
9. Stolen Power - Little White Lies
10. Stripsearch - Hey Kid
11. Stroke Band - Fiction Non Fiction
12. Styrenes - Inside of Here
13. Take It - How It Is
14. Tea Set - Sing Song
15. Telefones - Voices
16. Tikis - Junie
17. Tracers - Itchy Bugs
18. Tronics - Shark Fucks
19. TV Personalities - Three Wishes
20. Twelve Cubic Feet - Evercare
21. Velvet Monkeys - All The Same
22. Velvet Monkeys - Second Ave
23. Wilma - Alexander Haig
24. X-X - A
25. XMas Eve - My House
26. Y Pants - Beautiful Food
27. Y Pants - Obvious
28. Zoo Types - Welcome to the 80s
29. Zoomers - You'll See

Sydney Post-Punk #1 : Art Punks

Seems Twice - Non-Plussed EP 1980
01. Salient Feature (00:22);
02. Wish It Is (00:22);
03. Non-Plussed (00:27);
04. Side Effects (00:32);
05. Column One (00:16);
06. Warhol (00:25);
07. No Clear Ideas (Absorption Retention) (00:33);
08. Real Arafat (00:28);
09. Metropolitan Recluse (00:33);
10. Look At It (00:36);
11. Abrupt Alteration (00:24);
12. Anglican War (00:43)

Slugfuckers - LP rough mixes 1980
13. Artificial Slits (01:02);
14. Obligato Necroplasm (03:25);
15. Schizo Disco (04:53);
16. Tell Me Who You Are (03:06)

Thought Criminals - Single and LP tracks 1979-1980 *
17. Fuck The Neighbours (02:16);
18. Fun (02:59);
19. I Won't Pay (01:44);
20. Oceania (04:54)

Scapa Flow - Single tracks 1981
21. Endless Sleep (04:14);
22. The End (05:02);
23. Somewhere (02:41)

Tactics - 1st Single 1979 and LP track 1980 (25)
24. Buried Country (03:11);
25. National Health (03:18);
26. Standing By The Window (02:35);
27. Watch My Hands (02:11)

SPK - Single tracks 1979
28. Contact (04:15);
29. Germanic (05:58);
30. No More (02:01)

Voigt/465 - Single and LP tracks 1978-1979 *
31. State (02:09);
32. Imprint (03:10;
33. P (01:06);
34. Red Lock On Sea Steal (03:08);
35. Winchsoul (02:54)

(* are professional remasters all others are home remasters from cassette or
vinyl)

Sydney Post-Punk #2 : Skewed Melody

Pel Mel - Single and unreleased tracks 1981
01. Big Foot (02:44);
02. Ipanema Mon Amour (02:29);
03. No Word From China (03:32);
04. System and Automation (03:10)

Sekret Sekret - Single tracks 1981-1982
05. Charity (02:15);
06. Hope You Can (03:42);
07. New King Jack (03:30)

The Limp - Single and live tracks 1981
08. Home Movies (live) (03:01);
09. Marked Man (02:45)

Wild West - EP and unreleased tracks 1981 *
10. Calling The House (02:22);
11. Coast (04:02);
12. Dissappear (02:32);
13. Fierce Atoms ** (02:25);
14. Red Sea (02:54)

The Tame O'Mearas - Compilation and unreleased tracks 1981 *
15. Curl Curl (02:33);
16. Mosquito (01:38)

17. Via Veneto - unreleased 1981 - Empty ** (03:12)
18. You Peghead You - live 1981 - She Fall Off (01:41)
19. The Goat That Went Om - unreleased 1981 - The Pirate Song ** (01:50)
20. Hope Is A New Coat - unreleased 1982 - Y (03:17)

Maestros and Dipsos - unreleased 1983
21. Backslide (03:21);
22. Inertia (03:01)

23. Moral Fibro - unreleased 1983 - Take A Walk In The Sun (02:37)
24. Mr Knott - unreleased 1983 - Talking to a Sleeping Man (03:46)
25. No-V-Bleet - live 1982 - Sound Like Easy Listening (02:45)
26. Brrr Cold - unreleased 1983 - Mothers At War (03:53)
27. Famous - unreleased 1985 - Weetbix in the Beatbox (03:17)

(* are professional remasters, all others are home remasters from cassette
or vinyl)
(** were for a proposed 4 band EP that never eventuated - the other was the
tames track released on Cant Stop It)

Sydney Post-Punk #3 : M Squared
(and the whole sick crew)

Systematics - Single and unreleased tracks 1981-1982
01. Die For My House (02:18);
02. Suicide Beach (01:56);
03. Bovine (02:19);
04. Fat Cows Go Down An Eastern Beach (01:50)

05. EST - comp LP track 1982 - Yvonne Is Out Again (03:47)

Prod - single tracks 1982
06. A Brick Short (03:28);
07. Walker's Walk (02:05)

Scattered Order - Single and LP tracks 1982
08. Heat (03:57);
09. Bent Up (02:17);
10. I'm Not Whole (02:33)

11. Height-Dismay - unreleased 1982 - AS1125 (04:56)
12. Patrick Gibson - unreleased 1982 - Holy Trinity (04:01)
13. Pleasant Peasants - comp LP track 1982 - Pussman Polka (02:38)

The Makers of the Dead Travel Fast - single and LP tracks 1981-1982 *
14. Tael Of A Saeghors (04:42);
15. Row Boat (02:06);
16. The Barbers, The Barbers (04:46)

Ya Ya Choral - Single and EP tracks 1982-1983
17. Waiting Time (03:19);
18. God's Buzzsaw (02:55);
19. My Friend The Chocolate Cake (02:29);
20. Gee Lately (03:02);
21. Cowboys Are Pt 2 (03:24);
22. You Ruined My Fun (02:18)

No Night Sweats - unreleased tracks 1983
23. The One I Know (03:18);
24. Nights In A Glass (02:47);
25. The Goodbye Song (01:34)

(* are professional remasters, all others are home remasters from cassette
or vinyl)

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

philT is a legend

― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks, gaz - I've got the two homework/messthetics comps, with what I think is a slightly different tracklisting (re : alphabetising, hyphens are ignored on mine, meaning X-X & Xmas Eve switch positions, & the B-Lovers track is the 13th track, pushing everything before that up one place).

I've just got one aussie post-punk comp, 37 tracks long - looked at track times & all I've been able to discover so far is that it's got the entire Seems Twice EP near the start - duration of the first track is 3:10, second 1:06, suggesting Voigt/465, but then it veers off toward stuff which might be SPK & Thought Criminals. Will have to do more research (haha or actually listen to it & hope the track titles turn up in the lyrics).

― etc, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

philT is a legend

Let me second that, and those comps are just wonderful.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:48 (twenty-two years ago)

four months pass...

I'm listening to Messthetics #2 right now and am wondering how I missed this terrific series

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 18 April 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

All I have is Teenline #1 and Homework #9 and I desperately need more, but I'm waiting for the Homosexuals thing to come out.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Sunday, 18 April 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been downloading/listening to the Messthetics comps religiously lately, and I have one Homework #8 queued but can't find any more.

Animals and Men's Terraplane Fixation (Messthetics 201) is also well worth seeking out.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 April 2004 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm totally going to load up on some of the other Hyped2Death CDs once Astral Glamour comes out, espcially the Chemicals Made From Dirt one, if only because I'm so taken with the idea of Long Island artwave circa my childhood.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 18 April 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I love H2D

― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Sunday, 18 April 2004 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

me2

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 April 2004 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

the Zoomers CD is great...really twisted acid-damaged rock, reminds me of the Twinkeyz.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 18 April 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I hate to butt in here, I mean certainly Phil is a very nice person to share these things, but...being in a position of owning all the Messthetics CD's myself and having made my very own best-of's from these I'd hate to think anyone would deprive themselves of owning as many of these as they can so they can make their OWN best-of's. That said, Phil chose some of my most favorite tracks, particularly Stolen Power.

Haven't ventured into Homework yet as I have a life long UK bent on things, but will probably do so in the future. I tried one of the Bad Teeth's and didn't like it much. But the point of my posting here is, to each his own!!

― bimble (bimble), Sunday, 18 April 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

aus p-p news:

the slugfuckers re-release is imminent - just waiting on the covers, etc to arrive apparently.

and... guy blackman is thinking of doing a 2nd installment of his fab "Can't Stop It" comp sometime this year or early next year.

― phil turnbull (philT), Sunday, 18 April 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the Steve Treatment (Swell Maps crony guy) double CD, but it's all loaded up with everything the guy ever recorded.

― Tim Ellison, Sunday, 18 April 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow - I've been looking for those Steve Treatment 45s for years and years. I didn't know there was a double CD.

― jazz odysseus, Sunday, 18 April 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

guy blackman is thinking of doing a 2nd installment of his fab "Can't Stop It" comp sometime this year or early next year.

WOO HOO

― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 18 April 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

more news, straight from the mouths of the thought criminals -

"Yes the 2 CD release and also the double clear vinyl edition are mearing completion in time for the 101st anniversary of george orwells birth"

― phil turnbull (philT), Monday, 16 May 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

The Instant Record Collections are such a good deal! Can't decide whether to go for the Messthetics or Homework though...

― Paizuri (riddim) (davidcorp), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

are you american or british?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Does it matter? Get both!

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Canadian. And British. Think I'll get Homework. It's more exotic.

― paizuri-san (davidcorp), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

I was just kidding, get both, of course! Though I think I prefer Homework, which some might thing is suprising coming from me.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

The new legit Messthetics will be missing the Desperate Bicycles, I expect.

The Animals & Men compilation in the Messthetics series is great.

Also I got a well-done reissue of the Rapist in the Park 7" by Anorexia recently. Not on Hyped 2 Death, and probably a bootleg, but 2 of the songs are on one of the Messthetics comps.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I saw what I thought was a legit Anorexia 7" in that cool record store off Portabello that has loads of old psych stuff. They've also got an original Afrika Korps. Slathered over both....

― paizuri-san (davidcorp), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

Love this shit. Did they release the Messthetics collections on vinyl?

― Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

i didn't post about it here, but CW came by my store recently and told me he is working on regional power pop comps with numero group. on vinyl. don't think any of his own label stuff is on vinyl. i could be wrong.

― scott seward, Monday, 2 April 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

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