FLAMING LIPS NEW ALBUM

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so,any ideas on when the new record is going to leak?i know some single was just released...wand something or another...that usually means a full leak is soon.any predictions?

salmonspread, Friday, 13 January 2006 01:15 (twenty years ago)

A Full Leak is the album title? hmmm.

Dom iNut (donut), Friday, 13 January 2006 01:19 (twenty years ago)

w.a.n.d is a good song.

Stephen C (ihope), Friday, 13 January 2006 01:27 (twenty years ago)

i want to hear the wand song, or whatever it's called.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Friday, 13 January 2006 01:35 (twenty years ago)

wand wa-wand-wand-wand

let me see that waaaaaaand.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 13 January 2006 01:37 (twenty years ago)

The W.A.N.D. is a b-side, I'm told.

Here it is: http://s64.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0BUJH23UJPFSX3CGM11BVO79BZ

Quincy, Friday, 13 January 2006 01:50 (twenty years ago)

Talk about a teasing thread title. I've wanted to make a "NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM HAS LEAKED AND IVE GOT A SMALL ARMY OF YSI LINKS!" "trap" thread for awhile now.

Cunga (Cunga), Friday, 13 January 2006 01:56 (twenty years ago)

That sucks. Looks like they're pasat their prime.

Oh well, there's only so much Yes to steal from, Friday, 13 January 2006 01:57 (twenty years ago)

I don't like "The WAND" at all :( . But i still love "Mr. Ambulance Driver," so who knows...

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 13 January 2006 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Thanks!

you're all crazy, this song is wicked awesome.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Friday, 13 January 2006 02:14 (twenty years ago)

Dont joke about radiohead we will find you.......
Flaming Lips kick ass and im downloading that shit right know!!!

lewis (lewis), Friday, 13 January 2006 07:56 (twenty years ago)

Brainwasher OTM.

"The W.A.N.D." sounds like bland Beck.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:38 (twenty years ago)

WAND is not a B-side, it's going to be on the album along with Mr. Ambulance Driver (currently found on the VOID DVD and the Wedding Crasher's strck) and the Yeah Yeah Yeah Song (a live version can be found on soulseek). As much as I love the Lips, I'm afraid that this new one is going to let me down. The WAND has no hooks, nothing that makes it stand out. Just studio wankery that doesn't add up to anything. If the album is a let down, I hope it's not the start of a big downturn. It'd break my heart if the Lips pulled a Mercury Rev.

Joseph B. Cowart (flamingrev), Friday, 13 January 2006 17:09 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
anyone heard anything on the leak yet?

shushu, Saturday, 28 January 2006 09:29 (nineteen years ago)

SONG NOTES FROM THE SORCERER'S ORPHAN
Understanding At War With The Mystics

THE YEAH YEAH YEAH SONG (WITH ALL YOUR POWER)
Steven had been recording in a separate vocal booth on his computer and I walked by and heard the crazy grouped vocals doing the "yeah yeah yeah" part and I was immediately hooked. This is one of those songs that points the finger at the pettiness of those in power but also points the finger back at ourselves - what would YOU do? Power in the hands of the inexperienced (which is what we would be) is very dangerous...

FREE RADICALS (A HALLUCINATION OF THE CHRISTMAS SKELETON PLEADING WITH A SUICIDE BOMBER)
I had a dream in which Devendra Banhart (the weird singer/songwriter) is pleading with a suicide bomber (who is about to go blow up something or somebody) to change his mind. And once he changes the deranged zealot's point of view, he (Devendra) immediately sympathizes with the frustration (mostly aimed at George W. Bush) that could make someone long for such exaggerated revenge...(Keep in mind that this is just a funny dream - these suicide bombers are clearly brainwashed religious fanaticals that are insane with their own agenda...they are beyond any pleads of reason and are not worthy of any sympathy.)

THE SOUND OF FAILURE
We have some friends whose father was dying of cancer - I say "was" because it (the cancer and his death) dragged on agonizingly for over a year - and they (our friends) were becoming, understandably, weary of being forced to be upbeat...

And I remember hearing a comment once about how annoying it was, to them, to have to hear this gratingly jubilant fake enthusiasm (usually hokey hyped-up pop groups like Black Eyed Peas, Destiny's Child, Ashlee Simpson, Hillary Duff, etc.) blasting out of the "Muzak" systems virtually everywhere they went. To them this cheerleader-type assault was really only effective if you didn't actually have any real psychic stress...And they felt that it was, surprisingly, helpful to them to try to understand their fears and their sadness - as opposed to pretending that it's "all good." And, you see, this is true insight... finally we know it's okay to have a troubled mind, it's okay to fail...

And so this song (which was written in the car on the way up to New York from Oklahoma while I drove and Steven played battery powered keyboard and computer) is about a young girl whose best friend has died, and everywhere she goes (like the friends I mentioned earlier) she must endure the empty optimism of the inexperienced. She wants to know, since it has arrived, what is despair, what is hope, what is failure...And what is in
the darkness??

The line in the song, "so go tell Britney and go tell Gwen" is obviously a reference back to my friends and their Muzak incident...meaning, "Yeah, go tell Britney Spears and Gwen Stefani that their energy and their Prom Queen smiles only go to prove that they don't empathize with my sadness." I believe, in the song, that Britney and Gwen could be thought of as this grieving girl's less mature friends...and that she's not trying to go against them, she just doesn't want to pretend that she understands what she doesn't really understand - what death is...what despair is...what existential fear is... She doesn't know, but she's starting to find out...

IT'S DARK... IS IT ALWAYS THIS DARK?
A strange sort of afterword to the previous song. The voice and the strange blippy trail is actually my voice run through a computer plug-in effect called "Squirrel Parade"...Pretty cool... Anyway, it sounds like I'm saying "It's Dark", but I didn't say "It's Dark". I don't remember what it was exactly - just me talking before a song, but it gives the illusion of a young girl finding her way through a mystery...yes?

MY COSMIC AUTUMN REBELLION (THE INNER LIFE AS BLAZING SHIELD OF DEFIANCE AND OPTIMISM AS CELESTIAL SPEAR OF ACTION)
We had been using the musical elements of this song (it wasn't a song then) as an intro for our live shows, as I rolled around on top of the crowd in the now famous "Space Bubble." The power of the chord structure and arrangement kept inspiring me and I eventually pieced together this manifesto of defiance and optimism. It is my response to the naysaying know-it-alls who see life leading only to death and see nature as a cruel prankster designed to defeat the human spirit. And the truth (which I get to proclaim as if standing on the top of a holy mountain shooting lazer beams out of my hands - thanks to Steven's epic orchestration) is that no circumstance can ever defeat us unless we let it... Resilience in the face of failure is a manifestation of the mind...

VEIN OF STARS
I picked up a guitar that Steven had tuned to an odd open chord (F 6/9) and, without thinking, strummed it a couple of times and immediately sang (off the top of my head) the first line into the tape recorder, "Who knows, maybe there isn't a vein of stars calling out my name." My intention was to sing something cosmic about how humans have (as science reveals more and more about the nature of time and space) been abandoned by the stars...But I believe, once we finished it (the song and its production), it seemed to convey just the opposite...That almost despite science we are connected to the stars...Because we love to look at them, we hope maybe they love to look at us...

THE WIZARD TURNS ON...THE GIANT SILVER FLASHLIGHT AND PUTS ON HIS WEREWOLF MOCCASINS
A kind of space jam where the initial performance had Michael playing the CD player (in it was a CD with a recording of the drums), Steven playing the Rhodes and me playing electric bass. Mr. Fridmann ran the whole thing through a series of space echoes. flangers, filters and distortion boxes... The entire mix lays in the bed of a program called Metaphysical Function...Neat, huh?

IT OVERTAKES ME
I sometimes will do a silly songwriter's trick - I'll act like I'm writing a song for someone else and on this track I was imagining Gwen Stefani... I pictured her singing it and imagined what kind of production would happen. Initially I called the song, when it was intended for Ms. Stefani, "I Like To Masturbate and Think Of Outer Space"...and I still think that if she was doing the song it's a great title....But to think of me, a 45 year old man with a graying beard, umm, masturbating....is... well...(I'm uncomfortable even typing this)...unpleasant...so anyway...The song ends up being more about my occasional bouts of panic when accidentally contemplating the "Cosmic Reality", that is....that we (the Earth) are floating perilously adrift in a vast and endless sea of black infinity (outer space) and it is, when analyzed, a mindfuck...and yes I feel horribly insignificant....So anyway, what we ended up with, I believe, still sounds like a mashing of "Hollaback Girl" and "1969" by The Stooges...take some drugs and turn it up real loud...

THE STARS ARE SO BIG AND I AM SO SMALL...DO I STAND A CHANCE?
This section of the song captures, I think, the vulnerability and awe of this same scenario (the Cosmic Reality) within a cathedralesque womb-cloud of angelic voices... but instead of panic it is solemn and comforting...

MR. AMBULANCE DRIVER
The entire song, its key and chord structure, is built around the ambulance siren sample. When we first did it there was an eerie death coloring (probably due to the siren and the lyric about the girl being dead) that was very satisfying... But we found, with repeated listening, that the siren, somehow, subliminally disappeared and, to our surprise, it revealed a kind of Eddie Rabbitt (70's pop-country singer-songwriter) at the roller rink, easy listening teenager car crash ballad.

HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE
A friend of ours, Greg Kurstin (he played with us on the Beck tour and was nicknamed "Firefingers" by Steven due to his sublime playing of the keyboard) is an accomplished musician and has a great ear for pop sounds and structure...He's written songs with artists ranging from Enrique Iglesias to Karen O and he, upon my insistence, sent this unfinished track for us to build on. It was great fun and again (like the Gwen Stefani trick) it allowed us to create inside a different identity. The song is about a type of person that everybody knows and endures (we won't mention names). They blame everyone but themselves for all of their problems which they seem to have in endless supply. If they suffer, you suffer more... You know what I'm talking about.

THE W.A.N.D. (THE WILL ALWAYS NEGATES DEFEAT)
I was playing electric guitar, Michael was on fuzzwah bass and Steven was on the drumkit and we stumbled upon this druggy prog-rock riff and stuttery, funky beat. It was like Black Sabbath getting mashed up with Sly and the Family Stone or Stevie Wonder, and it sent us off in a wonderful new direction. The idea of a magic wand and magic powers occurred to me while watching a homeless guy in Oklahoma City. He was, I believe, Vietnamese, and had a cool looking wizardly beard and mustache and he carried a long stick, which he used as a kind of cane-weapon. And one day I saw him fighting an "imagined" enemy and the long stick became (as best I could tell) a kind of magic wand that made his invisible foe retreat. I mean... it seemed to give him a confidence that allowed him to defeat his hallucinations...and at first I thought "how sad...he believes this old stick is saving him"... but the more I thought about it, the more I envied him in a way...for the evil manifestations of his mind he invented a sparkling sorcerer's baton to lead his psychic revolution...yes!!...

And so we delved into a kind of radical protest rock mentality...We sing, "We got the power now, motherfuckers, that's where it belongs", but I believe it's cosmically empowering - not actually empowering. In the song, we rail against the greedy, corrupt evil beings who are in control and trying to enslave us... But our rebellion is simply to fight back - we have no solutions.

POMPEII AM GÖTTERDÄMMERUNG
A galloping Godhead melody (reminiscent of the German National Anthem) telling a vague story of a young couple planning their suicide. They live in a place where there are volcanoes erupting and they are going to take the train up the mountain and jump into the flowing lava as a symbolic sacrifice of their restricted love.The triumphant quality of the arrangement suggests that, just before they obliterate themselves, they realize that to make such a decision, to destroy yourself, is really just a point of internal motivation leading to outward action. And, if they could do something as extreme as annihilating themselves, why couldn't they just try to change the circumstances that have limited them?....Action is all we have....Worth mentioning is that this is Steven's first lead vocal on a Flaming Lips track...

GOIN' ON
The core of the chorus melody has a melancholy resolution evoking, abstractly, sections of Mahler's 9th Symphony...We are, subconsciously I guess, drawn to "the answer"... maybe that is why people have the urge to pray or sing or create...We long for this thing called "closure", but I believe that "closure" is, maybe, an illusion. This song takes a long stare at coping and the secret healing powers of slipping through time and space...How suffering, somehow, is relieved by simple...acceptance...

Wayne
2006

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)

THE YEAH YEAH YEAH SONG (WITH ALL YOUR POWER)

Stuff like this bugs me. Why didn't they just call it "With All Your Power"?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm looking forward to totally dreading the million-mile-long thread about what Coyne is saying re: "The Sound Of Failure."

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

The Lips' biggest fan, then, Matthew?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

i can't wait to hear this.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot until reading those track-by-track notes how evermore explicitly Existentialist-Message-Rock the Flaming Lips have become over the years. I admire their playful sincerity in dealing with Big Life Issues and how grounded they seem in the midst of what's built up around them fan-fervour-wise, but personally feel that they jumped the shark with "The Soft Bulletin", in that, production-value-change qualms aside, every freaking song of theirs seems to now go cosmic-terror-huge lyrically, which deadens their profundity for me; I have no idea how (un)popular that sentiment is, but nevertheless do find comfort in their status as Adult Alternative cool dads...

C.D., Sunday, 29 January 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

"The Soft Bulletin" is exactly where they became a great band rather than a talented band with some potential they never quite managed to fulfill.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

SONG NOTES FROM THE SORCERER'S ORPHAN = 33 1/3: At War With The Mystics (Cliff Notes Edition)

nancyboy (nancyboy), Sunday, 29 January 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'm only a moderate Lips fan. There's a bunch of songs I really like, and they are usually the upbeat ecstatic numbers. I'm kinda looking forward to this album cos it seems like it's going to be more like Clouds Taste Metallic than the last three.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 29 January 2006 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

I kinda sorta agree that Soft Bulletin is where they earned their "great band" status, but I think it's also very clear that Clouds Taste Metallic is their masterpiece.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 29 January 2006 07:08 (nineteen years ago)

I think this will leak very soon with promos out and all.....we shall see.....

shushu, Sunday, 29 January 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

I kinda sorta agree that Soft Bulletin is where they earned their "great band" status, but I think it's also very clear that Clouds Taste Metallic is their masterpiece.

No, that would be "Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots". :-)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 29 January 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not really a fan of the Lips-on-record, but i'm a big fan of Wayne Coyne, and i marvel slack-jawed at the gig i saw in Montreal. but anyway, all this to say that the above blurb is the first thing that has got interested in this upcoming record. i'd not even bothered downloading "WAND" or "Ambulance Driver"... now i would like it to leak, please, yes. or just send me a promo already.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Sunday, 29 January 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

so how long to leak after promos are sent usually?

shushu, Sunday, 29 January 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Geir, why do you bother?

Gawd, titles like The Will Always Negates Defeat make them sound like they just bought The Fountainhead and now have to write songs about it.
And man, since Yoshimi was a huge letdown, I can't imagine that this album will be at all worth it. Probably more Spongebob bullshit.
Is it because it's so hard to find LSD in America anymore?

js (honestengine), Sunday, 29 January 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

LEAK DAMN YOU

lips, Monday, 30 January 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Is it because it's so hard to find LSD in America anymore?

I have to say that if you haven't seen the Fearless Freaks documentary that you might want to.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it will leak if everyone agrees to stop hoping that it will leak. It's like how a watched pot never boils...

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

true....but when you need water to boil quick you can't turn away....

shushu, Monday, 30 January 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Don't worry. It's really bad. And I generally like these guys.

I couldn't get past track 6. It's like Ween's Shinola record, with a bunch of goofy arena rock riffs and nutty pitch-contolled vocals.

Maybe I should read Coyne's notes. But what do you expect? The last album had like 4 good songs on it.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

And the Yeah Yeah Yeah song makes me feel bad for ever badmouthing Apples In Stereo. Holy barf. "If you could make everybody poor just so you can be rich, would you do it?"

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

AND THE FUCKING TALKBOX!

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

send me a ysi and I can decide for myself.
ducksoup35@hotmail.com (please and thanks) If not I'm still jealous that you've already got to hear it.

BTW I am a HUGE ween fan and all shinola was were their old bsides from'90-'00....I really liked every track.(good fun!)

shushu, Monday, 30 January 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a little worried now cos it seems like Chris and I at least agree enough that we have the same number of songs we like on Yoshimi. (My picks: "Are You A Hypnotist?," "Do You Realize?," "Fight Test," "Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots" track 3 version)

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I liked Shinola too, but I don't want to here big famous major label robot-kitchsy-brian wilson-in-space-band do Shinola.

Also, "Free Radicals" on this new Lips albums sounds JUST like some ween song, but i can't put my finger on it (note: it's not "I Can't Put My Finger On It")

Dude, this thing is watermarked, I'm not gonna YSI anything!

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Even though I disagree with a lot of your blog music taste, Matt, those ARE the best songs on Yoshimi, and everything else is pretty blah. Only a Geir would disagree.

js (honestengine), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't remember the other two songs on Yoshimi I liked, Matt (after "Realize" and "Yoshimi" of course). But let's say they are your picks for the sake of you worrying.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

yeah I figured it was watermarked......no way around it ;)
I wonder when it WILL leak.......thoughts?

shushu, Monday, 30 January 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

If you want, I'll describe all the songs very vividly for you, and then hum a few bars over the phone.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

ha, nice one.
so basically it being "watermarked" when you rip it they know which person leaked it? (right now this is THE most anticipated leak of the year) (for some)

shushu, Monday, 30 January 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Beats me. The disc has my name on it, though, which is some scary big brother shit that i ain't fucking with.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

if it's not worth losing your job over then your not worth the cause. (haha)

thanks for your opinions though! cannot freeking wait!

shushu, Monday, 30 January 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, they aren't as lenient here as they are at ass.gov.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 30 January 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

You just need to re-rip it through a soundcard. It strips the dross. Of course, that's not really worth it just to share with a bunch of jagoffs on the internet...

js (honestengine), Monday, 30 January 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

actually ass.gov is my CIA email......just between you and me........

oh and ditto to the last guy......I did not know you could do that.

shushu, Monday, 30 January 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

No, that would be "Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots". :-)

Terrible album.

enjoy bell woods, Monday, 30 January 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

hey whiney how long is the album?
thanks mang

shushu, Monday, 30 January 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

About 5".

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, it's 55 minutes and two seconds

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

nice! was hoping for at least that.....43-45 minutes would have been a shame!

well enjoy it you lucky @#$%.....we will all be able to very soon. So I guess the first track will be the single?

shushu, Monday, 30 January 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

I like the Spongebob song.

T/S: Pinks/Oki Dog/Scoobys/Tail o' the Pup (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

almost 1000 requests on OiNK already........damn!

shushu, Monday, 30 January 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
hey one question about watermarked cd's. if i play the mp3's i ripped with winamp, and record them with audio edit editor, the mp3's won't contain any info about me. is it right ?????

Chuck, Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)


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