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A thread to talk about the fake 12th track that was tacked onto the Knife album and is, perversely, my favourite record of 2006 so far.

Anyone know if there's any more of this out there?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

It's here, by the way

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

they are working on a ep. (That will inklude a cover version of Kylie “Giving you Up”)

according to one person in the comments box for the Zeigest post on length.se

let's make this record #1 everywhere!

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and it's ZeigeIst if a mod can edit.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

ack, that's a capital i, not an l

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

The chorus to this is infuriatingly reminiscent of something I can't quite place. Strawberry Switchblade?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, maybe it just is a poppier version of "If I only could, I'd make a deal with God..." as suggested on the other thread.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

maybe? it is obviously the melody/run of "running up that hill"

fucking brilliant song.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

(i'm referring to zeigeist)

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

There's one voice singing Bizarre Love Triangle while the other one is busy singing Kate Bush.

― snowballing (snowballing), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Prize to Snowballing - it was BLT I was thinking of.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.length.se/img/zeigeist.jpg

if that's what they look like... my new favorite group?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

They even LOOK like The Knife ha ha

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

oh no, this track was my fave so far off the album! that and the title track. stuff in the middle is good and i'm sure will grow on me, but after 4 listens those two bookend tracks do stick out :-(

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

I wish someone really would do a bootleg of 'Running up that hill' and 'Bizarre Love Triangle' now.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

That will inklude a cover version of Kylie “Giving you Up”

SCREAM

With these words my initial disappointment that this track wasn't brand new Knife goodness has been vanquished. I have never before been so pleased to have been proved a big wrong.

― j0e (j0e), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

I wish someone really would do a bootleg of 'Running up that hill' and 'Bizarre Love Triangle' now.

ON IT

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

I was hoping this was about the Austin Zeitgeist, seeing as how I've had "Freight Train Rain" in my head lately.

― mike a, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

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dammit

― stockholm cindy (winter version) (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.thereivers.net/albumcvrs/zeittran.jpg

I too thought this was about the 80s Austin band.

― Jim M (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

"Things Don't Change" = the secret best song of 80s/indie/college rock nobody knows about.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I know about it!
Great album all the way - "Freight Train Rain," "Blue Eyes," "Hill County Theme," etc.
Too bad they screwed up the CD mastering with the added echo and murk.

― Jim M (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

So seriously, there's yet another band called Zeitgeist?
I thought the reason the Austin Zeitgeist had to change their name (to the Reivers) was because there was already some new age band with the same moniker.

― Jim M (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

the group is called ZEIGEIST.

no T.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

THAT'S STUPID

― stockholm cindy (winter version) (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

EASIER TO SEARCH FOR

= SMART

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

cf. "GETO BOYS"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

yeah but more people have HEARD of geto boys

― stockholm cindy (winter version) (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

the purpose of this thread is to get people to have HEARD of zeigeist, therefore, should be the way they spelled it.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

it's still stupid that they spelled it that way.

― stockholm cindy (winter version) (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

google the word and you'll find many others who spell it that way.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

oh not this conversation again!

― stockholm cindy (winter version) (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I run the blog on http://www.length.se where I recently posted Tar Heart. Tar Heart is (to clear out some misunderstandings) a song made by, and performed by Zeigeist.
They are working on an EP and rumour has that they're negotiating a deal regarding publishing and/or distribution.

I WILL SOON POST A NEW TRACK BY ZEIGEIST ON MY BLOG. I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED!

― Eric Length Persson, Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

thanks!

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

I wish someone really would do a bootleg of 'Running up that hill' and 'Bizarre Love Triangle' now.

ON IT

TS: sublime marriage of two 80s pop classics vs cacophonous example of amateurish sonic butchery at it's worst

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

God, Zeigiest really did do a Bush/Order mashup, didn't they? Ah well, they could steal from worse.

― js (honestengine), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

this zeigeist sounds better than it actually is only because people've been hearing it after the drab knife album, obviously. nice marketing.

― blame bluto, Friday, 27 January 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

thanks, eric "length" persson, if that is really your middle name.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 27 January 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I'm sort of hoping every other Zeigeist track is as blatant a steal from equally amazing sources and they turn out to be the Oasis of electro.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 January 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Except good, obviously.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 January 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

so seriously, can the knife be sued over this? it's pretty blatant. great melody, works great in this context, but blatant, right?

― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 27 January 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Why would they be sued? If anything, someone linked with Zeigeist leaked it as part of the Knife album to ensure people would hear it.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 January 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Is this the first time that this kind of viral marketing actually works ?

― snowballing (snowballing), Friday, 27 January 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

well, I figure if George Harrison can be sued for "My Sweet Lord", why not The Knife? Maybe times have changed though.

― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 27 January 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

But this is nothing to do with The Knife.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 27 January 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

wait, so this won't be on the record? (I'm on a couple hours sleep here, bear with me)

― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 27 January 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

No, people have just been including it on leaked copies of 'Silent Shout' for some reason (to boost Zeigeist presumably).

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 27 January 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

ic ic. yeah, this is kind of genius (if still kind of sinister) marketing then. but then marketing is sinister

― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 27 January 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

marketing isn't sinister. clever is all.

― papal rape, Friday, 27 January 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

i doubt Zeigeist have any control over it either. Just some mischeivous filesharers wanting to spread the word? Or maybe they're all in cahoots who knows.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 27 January 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

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you can read some info about "Giving You Up" at a swedish site: it's actually not a zeigeist-song! They "did it just for fun, for a special performance".

― JohnM, Sunday, 12 February 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

These "legal" comments are really sucking the joy out of these tracks. Why can't the people that have heard it just enjoy it if they do?

― johnathan dowe (jdowe), Sunday, 12 February 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

OTM, stop worrying about it. It's a fantastic song by an unknown band. Biggup to them.

― Vintage Latin (dog latin), Sunday, 12 February 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

parts of this song remind me of "toxic"

― joseph (joseph), Monday, 13 February 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

me and three friends in gothenburg, sweden, run a gayclub called gaystraight2hell (gs2h.com) and we have hade zeigeist performning on our club a couple of times, i was dancing with them on stage last time...i guess they are the next big thing, have 4-5 songs with them at home...fucking brilliant, overconceptual music...

― johan olsson, Monday, 13 February 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

4-5 songs? PLEASE?

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

Zeigeist feature in my radio show tonight. The interview is in Swedish, but there will be snippets of a couple of new songs if you're interested. (Sorry, promised to not leek them as they're not mastered etc.)

Available online from midnight (Swedish time) at www.sr.se/p3/pop. Click speaker icons top right on page. It will be about 20 minutes in, second hour. Show stays online for one week.

― Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 20 February 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

Like Hanna says, the show is http://www.sr.se/cgi-bin/p3/programsidor/index.asp?ProgramID=953
It's in the second part of the program, about 29 minutes into it. They play snippets of a couple of other Zeigeist tracks.

― Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

can anyone post up the zeigeist cover of Kylie, i cant find it anywhere... cheers x

― lukeytee, Friday, 3 March 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

They also have a page on myspace, where you can listen to 2 new songs:
www.myspace.com/thezeigeist

― kit, Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

i just shat myself

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Nice find. I just noticed there was no 'T' in Zeigeist.

― Mitya (mitya), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

P3 pop played a Zeigeist track called Bunny on the monday show.
You can listen here:
http://www.sr.se/cgi-bin/p3/programsidor/index.asp?ProgramID=953

It's ten minutes into part one of the show.

― Lisa Lipstick, Thursday, 23 March 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Zeigeist is performing in stockholm this sat!
Flyer at: http://www.length.se/

― procrastinator, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

Zeispaced with some new tracks!

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

Late to party (having actually discovered them through the everlasting Silent Shout thread). Here's some photos and a couple of videos from the live Stockholm performance procrastinator mentioned above.

― 35 Hertz (35 Hertz), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Whatever happened to these guys? I've still got a track kicking around my hard drive (don't know what it's called since it's untagged) and it's really quite good, kind of a Pet Shop Boys/Royksopp thing.

― Telephone thing, Thursday, 4 October 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

there are other tracks on myspace and i'm pretty sure an EP was released. kind of a knife/fischerspooner thing.

― cutty, Thursday, 4 October 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

"Tarheart" sounds like C.C. Catch

― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 19 October 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

Two and a half years later: an album!

http://www.maillot-jaune.com/shop/release.php?code=Spegel6&rand=941775536

― Stevie T, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:01 (seventeen years ago)

I think their career trajectory has almost exactly mirrored that of Fischerspooner - except without the $$$$$ contract :(

― Stevie T, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:02 (seventeen years ago)

Oh wow this is great news - has anyone heard it?

That's a nice sleeve as well.

― Matt DC, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:09 (seventeen years ago)

It sounds pretty much as you'd expect :/ Very enjoyable though.

― Stevie T, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:14 (seventeen years ago)

I think their career trajectory has almost exactly mirrored that of Fischerspooner - except without the $$$$$ contract :(

uh not really... Silent Shout was their third album after all

― braveclub, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:21 (seventeen years ago)

??? Zeigiest /= Ver Knife.

― Stevie T, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:23 (seventeen years ago)

oh ok

this thread confused me

― braveclub, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:24 (seventeen years ago)

reading comprehension issues

― braveclub, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:25 (seventeen years ago)

I still love "Tar Heart" so fvcking much.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:36 (seventeen years ago)

finally, some company for the Zombies down there at the alphabetical ass-end of my CD collection

― jamescobo, Friday, 16 May 2008 16:19 (seventeen years ago)

Haha they've ripped off Just Can't Get Enough as well.

― Matt DC, Friday, 16 May 2008 21:03 (seventeen years ago)

I think Cuffs might be even better than Tarheart. Male vocals this time, sort of Superpitcher-esque, it's like the love song that soundtracks the Kraftwerk parody thread. "When you grab my hands like this, it's like the first time that we kiss". A big dose of Fade To Grey in the chorus as well, stunning stuff.

― Matt DC, Friday, 16 May 2008 21:05 (seventeen years ago)

No "Chasing Your Shadow" :(

― Telephone thing, Friday, 16 May 2008 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

Actually on further listens there are four or five songs that are easily as good as Tar Heart, it's not the standout track by any means.

― Matt DC, Sunday, 18 May 2008 16:13 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Black Milk is brill, no?

― Keaney Tong, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 05:40 (seventeen years ago)

Bizarrely, I read that as "Black Milk is a troll, no?"

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 05:49 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah Black Milk is tremendous, love that dinky skittering synth refrain over the top of it. That whole section from Bunny through to The Lake is almost entirely wonderful.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 09:07 (seventeen years ago)

This movie is garbage it. intelligent design isn't playing. If you aren't a creationist, you need to get stoned and pray, because truly, the end is near. You can say the correlation of the pyramids of the world (not to mention the crop circles) are soley scientific inventions, or hypothesize that the correlating weight-measurement system across 'early' cultures was subliminally implanted in peoples' minds through migratory bird-song, but I say you are fucking ignorant. God I shouldn't even be telling you fags about this. go on watching your inane hyperactive phillistine 'writers' aka 'creative people' or 'false prophets' and and in 4 more years you'll be tossed into the furnace with the rest of the weeds.

― usic, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 09:15 (seventeen years ago)

!!!????

― Billy Dods, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 09:48 (seventeen years ago)

LOL

Some random christian most likely googling 'zeigeist' and assuming all threads are about that movie :D

― X-101, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 10:59 (seventeen years ago)

~~This movie is garbage it. intelligent design isn't playing. If you aren't a creationist,~~ you need to get stoned and pray, because truly, the end is near. You can say the correlation of the pyramids of the world (not to mention the crop circles) are soley scientific inventions, or hypothesize that the correlating weight-measurement system across 'early' cultures was subliminally implanted in peoples' minds through migratory bird-song, but I say you are fucking ignorant. God I shouldn't even be telling you fags about this. go on ~~watching your inane hyperactive phillistine 'writers' aka 'creative people' or 'false prophets' and and in 4 more years you'll be tossed into the furnace with the rest of the~~ weeds.

― the next grozart, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 11:11 (seventeen years ago)

wow, i missed this whole party somehow. so are zeigeist the knife or wot?

― CharlieNo4, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 12:16 (seventeen years ago)

― cutty, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 14:07 (seventeen years ago)

well, as long as we're clear.

― CharlieNo4, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 14:31 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

From their Myspace:
The Queen is dead

During the past years, we have put more and more love into Zeigeist, fed her like the Queen she have been. At the end of the day, she has demanded all love within us. We have our personal reasons to kill her.

The release of our next single/EP, ”The Neverending Love”, a cover of Roxette’s first single, our first cover, will be moved to tomorrow (5th Feb.). The EP also contents ”Chasing your shadow all around the world” and a remix of ”Humanitarianism” by The Twelves. With this EP, we call it a day. This is the end of Zeigeist. The Queen is dead.

So we raise our glasses, make a toast, a toast in your honor, and tell you this: The search continues. We're going to find out about the Never. Ending. Love.

With thanks to all our fans

Zeigeist

---
Boo, seemed like they had a lot of potential :(

― Not the real Village People, Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

genuine :( at this news. i love their album so much and they seemed like one of those bands that could release pretty much the same album over and over again and i'd never get tired of it.

― aaron d.g., Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:49 (sixteen years ago)

Nooo! I wanted "Chasing Your Shadow," but not like this! Not like this!

― Telephone thing, Friday, 20 February 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

99% sure they're back, without Per Störby (who now works as Pearl Fiction).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMroXbAmrI8

― nori dusted (Sanpaku), Monday, 3 May 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

Argh what was the name of the Running Up That Hill song?

― Rolling Coastal Black Country New Roads (dog latin), Thursday, 13 April 2023 19:54 (two years ago)

Tar Heart, also this album was incredible

― boxedjoy, Thursday, 13 April 2023 20:47 (two years ago)

Fondly hope Zeigeist become posthumous TikTok legends like Life Without Buildings did.

― Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 13 April 2023 21:18 (two years ago)

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