The ILM vacuum: why the silence, tastemakers?

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As someone who's been here for a little while, I'm bemused by the apparent lack of booster threads. ILM is *reacting* to the Arctic Monkeys, but is offering little else to get excited about. Basement Jaxx, Kano, David Banner, LCD Soundsystem, Annie, Ghostface, Kompakt, Vitalic, Le Cont, Dizzee, Junior Boys,the Knife...what's next?

(wait! there's never been a consensus on indie/rock music? why not...'cos ILM, deep down, cares more about guitars, and will debate to the death the merits / shotcomings of any band, yet accept well enough the dance / grime / hip hop flavor of the month?)

― paulhw (paulhw), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

I think the Destroyer's Rubies thread is a booster thread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm bemused by the apparent lack of booster threads.

Rolling Metal, Rolling Country, Rolling Teenpop, Rolling etc.

― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 30 January 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Relentlessly assailing Bob Pollard and his SHEER AUDACITY can really take a lot out of an ILM veteran, leaving little time or energy for much else....

Taste it: THE DIRTY PROJECTORS!!!

And Bob Pollard's new one is really good.

― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

THE BLOGS HAVE WON

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Come and join my minimal house bobbins thread!

― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

the knife isn't even out yet is it?!

i think it's good that in this day and age where everything has to be new new new, the best album of recent times is by Belle and Sebastian - a band who went under the brink in even the eyes of their most ardent fans long long ago.

― Vintage Latin (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

"yet accept well enough the dance / grime / hip hop flavor of the month"

i will contest this by merely saying- i do not accept the flavor of the month. despite it being vanilla. which i love.

i boost- the Modey Lemon+Shade-local boys with flavor?

― eedd, Monday, 30 January 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

are the ilxors who like neu/harmonia/cluster and boards of canada the same people? if not, the nathan fake album could be the next big thing

― Yawn (Wintermute), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

The next big thing is whatever I end up enjoying a lot.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Exactly how could ILM have ever been more obsessed with the concept of tastemaking than it is right now?

― Dan (Curious) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

the next big thing

SICKOAKES
http://www.typerecords.com/artists/full.php?id=30

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

A would KILL for a Nathan Fake album.

― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

And Magda.

― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

the chambermaids and cave deaths CDs are great! but i'm not a tastemaker.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

dude there IS a nathan fake album! xxpost

― Yawn (Wintermute), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

i think everyone dissed the nathan fake album already. i love it.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really know who Nathan Fake is (on the same label as the MFA, I seem to recall?) -- but Yawn's descrip sounds great.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

well, then fezaffe just tastemakered you

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

lex dissed it, I think it has guitars ;)

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

Nathan Fake - Drowning In A Sea Of Love
Label: Border Community | Release Date: Monday, March 20, 2006
http://digbig.com/4gcwd

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

this album will be huge, let the tastemaking commence.

best track: "you are here"

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I would kill for a Magda album then. KILL

― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

I trust cutty.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Also, it seems like SaRa could (maybe?) be big this year?

― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

Newham Generals!

― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Rad new or new-ish music off the top of my head: Planningtorock, The Magistrates, Fovea Hex, Mika Miko, Coptic Light, Horacio Vaggione, Pissed Jeans, stuff on the Free Porcupine Society label . . .

I recall shamelessly shouting my head off about the Safety Scissors album here too .

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

I think the magda album will follow about two years after the mix cd... sometime in 2011

and yeah, I've noticed a lot of indie-kids picking up on Nathan Fake actually.

― fandango (fandango), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

I like the Safety Scissors record but I don't think it is going to inspire any 500+ post threads. Coptic Light have been mentioned a bit on ILM for quite a while now.

― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not going to get my booster shots this year

― james van der beek (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

next big thing:

Belong

"October Language"
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Carpark Records #31
http://www.carparkrecords.com/october.html

Following in the tradition of bands like My Bloody Valentine and Gas, guitars, synths and other musical sources are wrenched from their typical tones, revealing themselves in bright shards of distortion. Melodies are similarly enveloped in a sort of aural atrophy, forever repeating their blurring calls. At the end, all that remains is a noise so potent it leaves the sonic equivalent of the sun's imprint on a retina.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

Occam's Razor - Maybe everything sucks?

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

Basement Jaxx, Kano, David Banner, LCD Soundsystem, Annie, Ghostface, Kompakt, Vitalic, Le Cont, Dizzee, Junior Boys,the Knife

These all really fucking broke the mainstream into little pieces, eh.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

I would also get excited for a Black Strobe record, but then you knew tha.

― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

i want people to get more excited about akron/family, personally

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

What people fail to understand POWER & INFLUENCE = the media

The media have crap playlists & programming

Put me in charge of 6 Music for a year and things would change.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

The Coptic Light album is good.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

There have been a lot of good new records, but they're mostly from established acts. Which is good--surprises to come!

― Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 30 January 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

Put me in charge of 6 Music for a year and things would change.

CD sales would start to fall like people have been predicting for ages?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

"but is offering little else to get excited about."

i don't get this. i hear about all kinds of stuff here. this place is non-stop boosterism. check out that local band thread.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I would kill for a Magda album then. KILL

go find the Louderbach album!! Louderbach = Troy Pierce = he who fuels Magdas live sets! although i doubt the albums ILM consensus capabilities - its utterly, utterly fucked up, moreso than the last Plastikman album

― Yawn (Wintermute), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

Cougar is going to have one of the best albums of the year (it's only officially out in Europe now), but I fear no one is going to check it out besides a few hardcore Tortoise fans.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

i know it's early in the year, but Falkenbach's Heralding The Fireblade really is the Viking Metal album to beat in 2006.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

I have the Louderbach album, fezaffe.

I'd like more stuff like the Matt John thing.

― Serge Protecteur (nordicskilla), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

the new sparks record is a moving masterpiece. geniuses still at the top of their game.

― dan (dan), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

i am not an ilm tastemaker.

but i would like to second the dirty projectors! this is the most rewarding new music i heard in 2005.

― bell labs (bell_labs), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

the new sparks record is a moving masterpiece. geniuses still at the top of their game.

:-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

Apropos of nothing: "good music" and "music that triggers heated debate" are totally different things, it's cool when they overlap but they sure don't have to. Stuff that allows you to have a hot and polemical debate about race, colonialism, popism vs. rockism, class issues, academia vs. "street" cred, lots of lyrics to parse and critique etc. will tend to lead to long threads (M.I.A. for starters, but also even Kelley Polar, apparently). I mean, that Chihei Hatakeyama record on Kranky is utterly, utterly gorgeous, but I can't see people getting into fistfights about what genre it belongs in or starting long tendentious threads about it, which is just fine by me.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get all these posts that try to figure out what ILM cares about. It's not like all the posters here are some gigantic, snobbish music loving entity that only cares about one thing. People like different stuff, it's just that the music sparking interesting debate (for once) involves guitars and happens to be rock. I'm sure it'll change as the year passes and everyone gets sick of the Arctic Monkeys.

― Harrison Barr (Petar), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

"Cougar is going to have one of the best albums of the year (it's only officially out in Europe now), but I fear no one is going to check it out besides a few hardcore Tortoise fans."

Just FYI, by saying this you have made me not care about it, so maybe you don't want to mention the Tortoise thing next time.

― Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.carrboro.com/farmersmarket/soupson/spicygreentomatosoup.jpg

― ohgodohgodohgod, Monday, 30 January 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

I like the Safety Scissors record but I don't think it is going to inspire any 500+ post threads.

Hm, I'm glad I'm not alone on this one.

As great as I think Dengue Fever's Escape from Dragon House (as well as MANY great 2005 that seemed to have gone under the rader) I personally didn't see it garnering a vast ILM following.

For now the one of the only things that I'm finding interesting so far is Human Host.

― Cliftonb, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

Just FYI, by saying this you have made me not care about it, so maybe you don't want to mention the Tortoise thing next time.

Ha, exactly. It's an instrumental album and McEntire mixed it, so the comparison is inevitable, but I don't think they sound too similar. Cougar is more about composition and melody where Tortoise is more about texture and studio experiments, for one.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

jordan, i check their website out and it was pretty horrible stuff. :(

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)

does EVERYBODY love raymond?

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

Oh well. Why horrible?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, that Chihei Hatakeyama record on Kranky is utterly, utterly gorgeous, but

These are (for real) the recommendations I always pay attention to - the little off-hand use of something as a reference point for goodness.

― Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

i keep big-upping marcia blaine school for girls but nobody listens

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

People here would rather argue than actually listen to music, so it's no surprise that mediocre records get the most attention here.

― brian z., Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

major radio silence here on the debut Psychic Ills full length

― ziti sanskrit (sanskrit), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

Chihei Hatakeyama

jesus is that album good.

also, Drew, we have Coptic Light sitting in our radio rotation as i type and i will take your recommendation and put it on right after this Spiritualized tune.

several xposts

― sleeve, away, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm rocking a Nepalese Snake Charmer album recorded by Aaron Dillaway, but I'd feel bad cheerleading it...

― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

I boosterize folkster-crooners with Biblical names: Viking Moses and Sweet Billy Pilgrim. Oh, and Japanese kotatsutop girltronica: Sawako.

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

don't - it's really good! (xpost)

― ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

Pinback fans should check out Electric President (album: s/t, on MORR), but they're too good to be the next big thing.

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

Did I kill the vibe? again?

(anyway: about that Electric President album: should albo be checked out by fans of Grandaddy and The Earlies.)

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:37 (nineteen years ago)

I dont know how new they are but I was totally turned onto Japanther here. They rock rock rock rock with the rock. I love 'em!

― ________, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:43 (nineteen years ago)

Pinback fans should check out Electric President (album: s/t, on MORR), but they're too good to be the next big thing.

and/or boring.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:49 (nineteen years ago)

Ooooh no they aren't! (etc.)

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

i only semi-dissed the nathan fake album! it doesn't have guitars (a plus) and it is, by and large, ok, but it does get a little dull and boards of canada-y. HOWEVER there is a nathan fake remix album planned for this year and i fully expect that to be the best thing ever!

re booster threads, dude, girls aloud!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

People here would rather argue than actually listen to music, so it's no surprise that mediocre records get the most attention here.

-- brian z.

Not even true!

ILM knows its shit so the mediocre records do get filtered out. I don't agree with everything on this board, hell I'm a huge Elbow fan but Dom hates them. So some people probably think I listen to mediocre music but if you have passion for it they will let you be…best thing about this board is you can like what you like and someone will always back you up if it actually is good.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

Also, it seems like SaRa could (maybe?) be big this year?

I hope so. are they signed with a major yet? would love to see them get a bit of a push.

― controversial buffalo stance (haitch), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

self facilitating media node
what i say goes

― I am Nathan Barley, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

I've been trying to boost the Duke Spirit thread hoping for a snowball effect. To no avail...

― Baaderonixx, born again in Xixax (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Guillemots will have a good year, but im loathed to refer to them as 'the next big thing' because it's a term with absolutely no weight at all.

― Jimbo Mac (Jimbo), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Give the Duke Spirit thread time. It didn't catch on last year with the US indiephiles, but since the album will be out here in March, it might get some more activity soon.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Chihei Hatakeyama: unmasked!

(or maybe it's just a database error)

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Why the silence?

I personally suspect that it's got to do with the fact that since it's been established by now that "it's ok to like pop," there's less interest and desire to look for interesting, more obscure bands.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

hmmm

― Zwan (miccio), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Digitalism
NY Pony Club
Hystereo
Various Productions
X and Y DJs

― piscesboy, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

Burial

― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 5 August 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

o rly

― ferzaffe (flezaffe), Saturday, 5 August 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

fandango, what Burial record will make me cream?

I found last years release relatively meh.

― Mallory L . O'Donnell (That Bitch Camille), Saturday, 5 August 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even like the Burial album!

But it seemed like a thread with enough grandiose claims & rebuttals and one that hung around long enough to feel like an example of recent boosterism.

― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 5 August 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

The next big thing is whatever I end up enjoying a lot.
The next big thing is whatever I end up enjoying a lot.
The next big thing is whatever I end up enjoying a lot.
The next big thing is whatever I end up enjoying a lot.

There is no denying Ned's wisdom in this matter.

― trees (treesessplode), Saturday, 5 August 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

i rather uh enjoy the silence.

― marc h. (marc h.), Saturday, 5 August 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

words are very unnecessary.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 5 August 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

It need not even be a current band. A few months ago the next big thing for me was getting Ride's first two albums, and then listening to them on repeat for quite a long time.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Saturday, 5 August 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

O LLY ALLEN

― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 5 August 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Olly Allen?

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Saturday, 5 August 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

There's a big article about her in NYT today.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 5 August 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Oh americapaws

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 5 August 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

"i rather uh enjoy the silence."

silence is sexy.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 5 August 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

especially in Finland.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Saturday, 5 August 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

Why the hell is it so quiet around here Re: Fovea Hex? (http://foveahex.bandcamp.com/ <- hasn't put a foot wrong in like ever) & Laura Sheeran (just listen to her new album, it's just f*'n incredible: http://laurasheeran.bandcamp.com/album/what-the-world-knows )

(I missed that Matmos/Simonds collab free track around St. Patrick's day :-( but I hope it'll be on the Turing EP)

― StanM, Saturday, 7 April 2012 07:41 (thirteen years ago)

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqiCvJvezYk

― StanM, Saturday, 7 April 2012 08:12 (thirteen years ago)

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