I've been playing "Bad detective" by the New York Dolls over and over, mostly for the frantic doo wop backups. It's got kind of over the top lyrics about Charlie Chan, and gongs and stuff. It's not hateful (to me) but it definitely plays with some stereotypes. I'm wondering about stereotypes played out for kitsch value in rock: "Hong Kong" by Screamin' Jay Hawkins, "Bangkok" by Alex Chilton, "Ubangi Stomp", "Stranded In The Jungle", some of the Gun Club lyrics and artwork, etc.
Why does it all seem so harmless to me in rock n roll, when I'd have a hard time looking at in a comic strip or a novel or something?
― fritz, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I've been thinking some more about this, you'll be glad to know. I'm wondering now if this kind of stuff fits into the casual, invisible racism that Bangs wrote about in "The White Noise Supremacists".
Also thinking of this stuff as a milder version of '76 punks' swastikas - an "I know that you know that I know" signifier, a way of seperating those who "get it" from those who don't. Maybe this stuff was a precursor to the current hip attitude toward stereotypes exemplified in South Park or Vice Magazine - that racism is so inherently ridiculous and laughable that playing with stereotypes is only a way to ferret out the squares who still think of them as a threat. But maybe that explanation lets people off the hook a bit easily, ignoring the actual power and attraction of those stereotypes. Also does this kind of stuff really neutralize stereotypes or does it just perpetuate them?
― fritz, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
But if the obvious black-white dichotomy in Wm. S's aphorism is hackneyed, the verb is still interesting. Maybe the best rock n roll is the sound of failure: not just white boys failing to play black men's music but straights failing to play gay music, squares failing to play hip music, chicks failing to play dick music, musicians failing to play music.
1) The Rolling Stones et al 2) The New York Dolls 3) The Beach Boys 4) The Runaways 6) Sun Ra
by failing I mean arriving in a different destination than the one expected by the chosen route, I suppose. getting lost.
What was going on in those doo wop songs like "Stranded in The Jungle" (The Cadets), "Rockin In The Jungle" (The Eternals), "Shimmy Shimmy Ko Ko Bop" (Little Anthony & The Imperials)? They're usually told from the perspective of some regular joe who mysteriously finds himself in an exotic locale (like Little Anthony "sitting in a native hut all alone and blue, sitting in a native hut wondering what to do") where they have to escape from bloodthirsty cannibals. Is this African Americans internalizing America's image of Africa (or maybe just Lieber & Stoller & other white songwriters' image of African American's image of Africa?) or is it all parodying/celebrating 50's society's racist take on rock n roll as primitive "jungle music".
― fritz, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
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