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Can someone help me in finding more music along the lines of these songs,

Do It To My Mind-Johnny Bristol
Looking Up To You-Michael Wycoff
Whisper Softly-Love Unlimited Orchestra

For lack of a better name, sleaze disco? I've read about certain discos that had late night/early morning sets of slower midtempo disco songs, with an emphasis on sleaziness,but not quite slow jams. Any ideas?

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Saturday, 4 February 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Keni Burke - Risin to the Top (Changes LP)
Luther's early stuff - all like the beautiful Wycoff track.

What do you mean sleazy though? You mean the emphasis is on seduction? Lots of disco was less than 120 bpm, and very glossy in sound like these tracks.

― Luke Hugh Brate, Sunday, 5 February 2006 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

the great disco critic of the boston phoenix michael freedberg actually used to *refer* to a certain slow-to-mid-tempo disco subgenre as "sleaze" in the '80s. i'm not sure what the examples were off hand. not sure whether he invented the phrase, or whether it was widely used by dancers or djs, or what.

― xhuxk, Sunday, 5 February 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

Jerry Butler - "Mechanical Man" ? this stuff was a huge formative influence on Masters at Work, at least going by Kenny Dope's "oldies" mixes

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 5 February 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

Can I find these Kenny Dope mixes anywhere? This passage from Peter Shapiro's 'Turn The Beat Around' is what spawned my curiousity about this as well as an interview i read with Daniel Wang, where he mentioned sleaze sets, here's the shapiro:
"Buchanan also learned from Viteritti. Buchanan, a British DJ, was famous for his "sleaze" sets, which were pioneered by Viteritti at the Trocadero Transfer in San Francisco. As well as HI-NRG, Buchanan played New Wave records like Chnia Crisis's "Working With Fire and Steel" and Sleeping Lion's "Sound of My Heart" before his "sleaze records like Johnny Bristol's "Do It To My Mind," Talk Talk's "It's My Life," and Miquel Brown's "Close To Perfection"

Here's the Wang passage: 6) Midtempo discobeat: talk about Panoramic trax and Leather Video experience.

I LOVE midtempo disco because I think there is a special groove in there - like Maze "Twilight" at 109 bpm is a good example. And lots of soft disco rock, like Bee Gees "Night Fever". That is "sleeze tempo" - it's the club at 5 am, when the old disco queens are REALLY now feeling each other, having sex in the darkroom or just "grooving". Panoramic is not the best example I think, but the B-side - the leather video music I made was really for a porno film from San Francisco, but it was about that MOOD - not bam bam bam, but more sensual.
I guess seduction would be a essential part of the sound.

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Sunday, 5 February 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

And thanks, I've neard neither of the above songs. Is the Jerry Bulter song a Gamble and Huff one? Luther?

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Sunday, 5 February 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of disco boogie from the early 80's, although not necessarily sleazy, was around 100-110 bpm, and could be rather sexy.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 5 February 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

"Make It Last Forever" by Donna McGee is what comes to mind immediately. I'll try and YSI tomorrow. The sexiest disco song in existence to my mind. I put up "Making Love"by Universal Robot Band (produced, like the Donna McGee, by Patrick Adams/Greg Carmichael) on the latest YSI thread about a week ago. It may still be up.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 6 February 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

the kenny dope mix i know in that vein is his 2000 "strange games and funky things III." i don't know if there are a previous two mixes or if the "III" refers to the number of CDs it is - 1 for a mix, and the other 2 for the unmixed tracks.

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-22530-001.jpg
http://www.discogs.com/release/22530

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 February 2006 06:00 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks Tracer Hand, I've seen that in stores, but I have never looked at the track listing. I have a few of the songs on it , but it looks perfect.

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Monday, 6 February 2006 06:30 (nineteen years ago)

yeah Make It Last Forever, indeed

Grace Jones and Imagination spring to mind. Kleer also seem sort of generally sleazish... as well as

A Taste Of Honey - Do It Good
GQ - I Love (The Skin You're In)
Sylvia Striplin - Pillow Talk / You Can't Turn Me Away
First Choice - Love & Happiness
Double Exposure - I Got The Hots For You
Phreek - I'm A Big Phreek
Taana Gardner - Work That Body

and maybe Change - Mutual Attraction and Gino Soccio - Try It Out, or Le Pamplemousse - Le Spank.

― blunt (blunt), Monday, 6 February 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Can anyone YSI the Phreek song? I didn't know they did anything other than the Weekend 12".

Also is that GQ track the one that goes "livin' and lovin' and diggin' the skin he's in"?

I thought "I Got the Hots for You" was by TZ ??? No wonder I've never been able to find it!

― Deeky, Monday, 6 February 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

does the Dazz Band fit in here?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 February 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

If you don't have a copy of this, do all you can to get your hands on one!!!!

http://www.securecrazydiamond.com/dizq/36569.jpg

― Disco disco disco (Katiana57), Monday, 6 February 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Strange Games & Funk Things is a compilation series on BBE, volumes 1 and 2 were umixed I recall. I think DJ spinna might have done one too.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 6 February 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

It's "Strange Funky Games and Things", at least the latest version was, with a track of the same title included.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 6 February 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

'stars in your eyes" by herbie hancock is such a massive massive tune.. still not quite sure i get the drift of the genre under discussion here but the tempo and the mood seem to match what people are talkin about, even if the lyrics are a kind of "sweet charity" rather than "nasty girl"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 February 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Phreek had a whole LP.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 6 February 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

it just has such a YEARNING quality to it, that's maybe allowed by the slower tempo? anyway, hancock uses it to great effect on that track, managing to create a kind of analogy or parallel between a yearning for sex and a yearning for success.. both ways of "making it" i guess

xpost

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 February 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

katiepet, where did you find that, what label released it, and what year was it released?
Today I picked up the 1st and 3nd "Strange Funky Games and Things" Both are exactly what I am looking for, esp. the 1st one. What the hancock song released as a 12"? Thanks for these great recommendations. I haven't heard the GQ, or A Taste of Honey.

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

I just found the Keni Burke - Risin to the Top, this song has the right tempo and bass line that I am looking for!!!

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

It's so sweet it's practically a soul/r&b number.

And here's A Taste Of Honey
http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3VW7JQPX776WH3LEMS1NP1W3W8

plus GQ
http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2E31LXE1AQ4660N23EXPG61O2A

― blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

yay! i love it when you ysi

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

wait Susan you haven't even heard them yet !

― blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

The Delegation-Oh Honey
http://s59.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0M7PHX8LTFWEA3EN39368IIQ1X

here's one song that not disco, still works well in the sort of set I am trying to create.

Hipnotic-Are You Lonely
http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=058Q8DT8QX4NG3QO9ULWIUBN1V
Here's a disco song with the sound I have in mind.

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks blunt, Is the rest of A Taste Of Honey as good as that song?

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

Eh it's a bit sickly sweet as the name indicates. Their "classic" is probably Boogie Oogie Oogie (nice John Luongo mix of that one too). Also check Sayonara and Ain't Nothin' But A Party.

― blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

But I need a Phreek!

― Deeky, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

Hipnotic-Are You Lonely
http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=058Q8DT8QX4NG3QO9ULWIUBN1V
Here's a disco song with the sound I have in mind.

Man, you want boogie! You need this, one of my favorite comps of the last few years:
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/z/zzgrooveondown~~~~~~~_101b.jpg

Sound clips here if you need 'em. I can't recommend this comp enough. Although I don't know how any of this is "sleazy."

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

a lot of the early 80s post-disco synthy r'n'b seems right up yr alley. check out groups like Kleeer (with 3 E's), Kashif, Midnight Star, Odyssey, Change, Dexter Wansel, Mtume, Dynasty, Evelyn Champagne King, The Whispers, Howard Johnson, Cameo.

also a bunch of the late 70s jazz artists that went sorta disco-y. anything produced by the Mizell Brothers, Donald Byrd, Blackbyrds, Johnny Hammond Smith, Bobbi Humphrey. they also produced an A Taste of Honey album. check out Roy Ayers, RAMP, Lonnie Liston Smith.

here's an 80s soul been-sampled mix i made

Holding You, Loving You - Don Blackman
Risin' to the Top - Keni Burke
Shoot 'Em Up Movies - The Deele
The Finest - SOS Band
Love T.K.O. - Teddy Pendergrass
Remind Me - Patrice Rushen
Love Don't Live Here Anymore - Rose Royce
You Are My Starship - Norman Connors
One Hundred Ways - Quincy Jones & James Ingram

― team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 05:15 (nineteen years ago)

per that Delegation song, maybe you need some Hall and Oates in there...not very disco though, but deliciously sleazy/creepy at times.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 06:04 (nineteen years ago)

one large ten-minute freak to go
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=052CIEIWJRRP634DVQ34HKVD0E

― would you like to be fried with your order (blunt), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 07:29 (nineteen years ago)

team jaxon that looks like just the sort set that I want. I only have the teddy pendergrass song. thanks for the recomendations. I think I want my set to start with boogie, and then R&B disco, or sleaze disco. And I haven't ruled out Hall and Oats, do you know of a better song than' i can't go for that"?

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

i'll search tonite for a good hall and oates. sometimes its just the idea of what they could do that gets me going --- and not the reality (i mean they are incredible...but i often think about them as darker and nastier more mysterious than they were). but i was thinking one of there not too popular tracks that was more john oates influences/more r&b than "i can't go"

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

by now this is a big xpost but I wanted to say the first Strange Games and Things (by DJ Spinna) is awesome. It's one mixed disc and two unmixed.

http://www.discogs.com/release/163023

― Renard (Renard), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

Natural High, Vol. 1 -- 2-Step Soul, Boogie Fusion & Rare Groove from the Vaults of Atlantic, Elektra & Warner Bros. Records 1975-1983

Vol. 2

Vol. 3

Vol. 4

― Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

can't believe this is your first post to this thread...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm gratetful that more people understand my vision here. keep these coming! My friend and I are going to rent a skating rink to DJ, and this tread is a big help. I only hope people will understand what I am playing, and dance.

Why is it that amazon.uk has much better music than the u.s. site?

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

yes Renard, that first one looks like an incredible collection of songs!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

it's kinda hip-hop oriented (on the mix disc), he rocks doubles on a bunch of the intros

at the time I first heard it I was still in the "disco is bad" / "funk turned to crap after 1975" type of mindset .... in that sense it was a huge eye-opener. nowadays late '70s / early '80s is a lot of what I look for!

― Renard (Renard), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

we cover a lot of the same territory in this thread: Jazz in the late 70s / early 80s (jazz goes pop, jazz goes disco)

― team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

Top sleaze lyrics: I-Level "Gime Me"
"Give me, come on and give me girl, give me what you can't get back"

Here's some others..

Archie Bell - Strategy
Armenta & Majik - I Wanna Be With You
Aurra - Checking You Out
Aurra - Such a Feeling
Barbara Mason - Another Man
Barbara Mason - Let Me Give You Love
Barbara Mason - Don't I Ever Cross Your Mind
Bernard Wright - Who Do You Love?
Billy Ocean - Stay the Night
Bobby Caldwell - What You Won't Do for Love
Boule Noire - Aimer D'Amour
Breakwater - Let Love In
Carl Carlton - She's a Bad Mama Jama (She's Built, She's Stacked)
Chemise - She Can't Love You
Collage - Get In Touch With Me
Dennis Edwards - Don't Look Any Further
Dynasty - I've Just Begun to Love You
Edwin Birdsong - Cola Bottle Baby
Eighties Ladies - Turned on to You
Eighties Ladies - He Is Mine Forever
Eighties Ladies - I Knew That Love
Ethyl Beatty - It's Your Love
Flakes - Sugar Frosted Lover
Fonda Rae - Touch Me
France Joli - Come to Me
France Joli - I Wanna Take a Chance on You
Gene Chandler - Does She Have a Friend for Me
Geraldine Hunt - Can't Fake the Feeling
Geraldine Hunt - Heart Heart
Grace Jones - Private Life
Gwen Guthrie - Getting Hot
Gwen McCrae - Doin' It
Harvey Mason - Groovin' You
Hot Cuisine - Who's Been Kissing You
I-Level - Give Me
Jeanette "Lady" Day - Come Let Me Love You
Jean Carn - Was That All It Was
Jeffree - One Last Chance
Jermaine Jackson - Let's Get Serious
Jones Girls - Nights Over Egypt
Jones Girls - You Gonna Make Me Love Somebody Else
Juicy - Bad Boy
Juicy - Sugar Free
Kashif - Don't Stop My Love
Kashif - Stone Love
Khemistry - Who's Fooling Who
Kinky Foxx - So Different
Kleeer - Tonight
Kleeer - Intimate Connection
Larry Wu - Let Me Show You
Leon Haywood - Don't Push It, Don't Force It
Loose Ends - Hangin' on a String
Love Club - Hot Summer Nights
Marcus Miller - My Best Friend's Girlfriend
Mary Jane Girls - All Night Long
Mary Jane Girls - In My House
Mary Jane Girls - Candy Man
Melba Moore - Love's Comin' at Ya
Michele - Can You Feel It
Mtume - Juicy Fruit
Mtume - Green Light
Pennye Ford - Ready for Love
Pleasure - Glide
Rainbow Brown - Come Let Me Show You the Way
Raw Silk - Do It to the Music
Ray Parker, Jr. - Jack and Jill
Ray Parker, Jr. - A Woman Needs Love (Just Like You Do)
Ray Parker, Jr. - The Other Woman
Ray Parker, Jr. - Bad Boy
Ray Parker, Jr. - Me
Ray Parker, Jr. - Stay the Night
Rick James - Cold Blooded
Selection - Ride the Beam
Shalamar - A Night to Remember
Slave - Just a Touch of Love
Slave - Watching You
Starshine - All I Need Is You
Sylvia Striplin - You Can't Turn Me Away
Sylvia Striplin - Give Me Your Love
Taana Gardner - When You Touch Me
Vernon Burch - Born to Love You
Vernon Burch - Playing Hard to Get
West Phillips - (I'm Just a) Sucker for a Pretty Face
Whispers - It's a Love Thing
Whispers - Rock Steady
Willie Hutch - In and Out
Wish & Fonda Rae - Touch Me (All Night Long)
Young and Co - I Like What You're Doin' to Me
Ze-Brass - Feels So Good
Vanity 6 - He's So Dull
Vanity 6 - Nasty Girl

― Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

"Gime me"

... oopsers.

― Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

I guess it's beans and rice for the next month, Thanks so much, confounded!!
I just heard 'Candy Man' by Mary Jane Girls, and I'm really loving it.

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

If you can find this, then your next roller rink party will be all set.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

it's the dog's bollocks

― ce sont les couilles du chien (blunt), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

The DJ Spinna reminds me of one of my favourite mixes of all time:

http://www.discogs.com/release/319967

Also the last 4 tracks of this one, which is also awesome but in a much more housey way:

http://www.discogs.com/release/187358

― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

All 101 megs of Kenny Dope's Roller Boogie '80s

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 06:23 (nineteen years ago)

That's a YSI, by the way.

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 06:24 (nineteen years ago)

whoa, cheers, confounded! i feel as though i should buy that, though - that's quite a haul, and i'd also like to have the full AIFFs. is it available for sale anywhere?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 06:25 (nineteen years ago)

wow. thanks

― team jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 06:26 (nineteen years ago)

There's two or three listen on GEMM.

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

listen=listed

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

I found Kenny Dope mix in Other Music in NYC, I think Kim's was stocking it back then too.

Can we rename this thread to "Roller Boogie Sleaze Disco" so that future Leroy Burgess fans know where to go when they hit the search button in 2009?

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

By all means, that sounds great, I just don't know how to change the title. Confounded, I played that set at my work lats night( I work at a cafe/coffee house) ,and everyone's feet and heads were moving. Thanks a lot.

― Jacobs (LolVStein), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

i finally listened to that Kenny Dope mix and it's fantastic. so many new records to be put on my list. he mixes in a really hip hop way. doubling up the records. dropping echos of one while other is playing straight.

Can we rename this thread to "Roller Boogie Sleaze Disco" so that future Leroy Burgess fans know where to go when they hit the search button in 2009?

will it take that long for him to get recognition?

― team jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Unfortunately.

(the dope mix is full of classics btw, I reviewed it on stylus a year or so back and I think everyone rolled their eyes at me)

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Less sleaze, more roller skates:

ahttp://www.discopia.com/portal/issues/issue7/wilsonk/document_view

― Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I actually just got this:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00081T4QC.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

and I think it may well qualify for this. Regardless, it is luscious.

― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

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