Is thinking "Too Long" is the best song on Discovery rockist?

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I absolutely loved this song for the last oh......9 months maybe, since I bought the album. As far as I was concerned it was THE best song on the album. But now having pulled out Discovery again, I find myself thinking Harder Better Faster Stronger is the real gem. The reasons I liked Too Long are completely opposite to the reasons why I now like Harder Better. So I'm sort of messing using the term rockist, but I know I liked Too Long because it went on for "so long" it had suspense, it built and built and built into a skyscraper and then tumbled down pretty gloriously.

And I know I like Harder Better because it doesn't really build at all, it's the instant thump factor of it all. It's the sort of song that reminds you of watching cartoon minecarts go down mountains and through caves I guess.

I still like Too Long, but it is (lazy critic ahoy) too long.

Ronan, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Rockist, no. Mentalist - yes!

Dr. C, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Harder Better Faster Stronger is the best thing that they have ever ever done (although it's easy for me to say that as I think it's the only thing they've managed to do which isn't somehow irredeemably flawed). And I think you'll find that what it actually sounds like is Doozers from Fraggle Rock being forced into Hitler Youth Camps and made to play synths.

emil.y, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think liking any particular song on that album is rockist, but I've noticed that rockists tend to like "Harder Better" the best.

Ian, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As far as I'm concerned, that album is all about "Harder Better Faster Stronger." Everything else is just filler.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Liking any song on any album more than Digital Love is mentalist.

Graham, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But "Face to Face" is just fantastic!

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I really like "Voyager" a lot. That bassline is deadly!

Michael Bourke, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And thus does "One More Time" become mere filler in the end. *cries*

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

reminds you of watching cartoon minecarts go down mountains and through caves I guess.

...or the "Around the World" video?

Curt, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In "HBFS" there is that mini-build 2 minutes in where the computer voice starts getting really excited. That's the key moment.

Honda, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Face To Face" seconded - lovely. "Crazy Girl" on Rooty, too (along with "Breakaway").

Paul, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

or the Around the World video?

Come on, I tried my best.

Ronan, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Face To Face" seconded - lovely. "Crazy Girl" on Rooty, too (along with "Breakaway").

YES!

minna, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah all my favourite moments on Discovery are the emotional ones - "One More Time", "Digital Love", "Face To Face". "Too Long" could stand to be a bit more emotional, but otherwise I love it and think it's the perfect length. I don't know how anyone who likes the breakdown in "One More Time" can really complain on that score.

Tim, Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah I'm quite a fan of face to face too.

Too Long is still one of the best songs EVER to bridge the gap in a set between funky toe tapping sit down house and dancefloor madness.

Ronan, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Too Long is too long. The great thing about the album is the the tracks are nice and short.. apart from that one. I know they are corny but i really like the lyrics to Digital Love - it's not often you can say that about a dance track.

Alex G, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

quite the opposite. "Too Long" is so obviously disco that liking it best is, if anything, discoist, not rockist. there's nothing remotely ROCK about it--no guitar solos ("Digital Love"), no badass instrumental breakdowns ("H,B,F,S"). it's Chicago house all the way, mesez

M. Matos, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I need to review what the word means to me. I wondered was anything that was exceptionally long rockist by default? The notion of a stretched out elongated build up, and a whole 9 minutes of music or whatever? Perhaps not.

Still rediscovering (hur hur) Discovery, I really feel that track 9, apologies I don't have the box, is fantastic. It's obviously easy to point out how much like Air it is. But it's slow and funky without becoming wrapped up in pretentiousness, like the sort of relaxed crap you hear in nice bars that have DJs.

It's so overt. All of it. Also there's the hint of disco where he sings "the right time" and "the right one". And then the supermarket solo. god........I could write a book about Daft Punk. It might not be great but I'd have fun doing it.

Ronan, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

**"Too Long" is so obviously disco that liking it best is, if anything, discoist, not rockist. there's nothing remotely ROCK about it--**

Rockism is a WAY of liking things which is independant of the subject. You could like ANYTHING rockist-ly, I reckon.

Dr. C, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pieces of music can't be r***ist. I don't think "Too Long" is too long anymore, by the way, I adore the whole album near- unconditionally except maybe "Superheroes".

Tom, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't either, though I did at one point. And I'd say that I love pretty much the whole album, too, except my "maybe not" song is "Crescendolls" - I love "Superheroes," especially followed by "High Life," which to me make a great pair.

Clarke B., Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)


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