Folk Britannia (BBC4)

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Has there been a thread on this series yet? I caught the second one (covering the revival of the 60s & 70s) at the w/e.

It was pretty unsatisfying I thought. There were some great people involved (Jansch, Martyn, Danny Thompson etc), but FAR too much time devoted to Lindesfarne, the Strawbs etc. Surely there exists a clip of eg Fairport Convention on Whistle Test that could have replaced Fog on the bleeding Tyne.

Two amazing heart-in-mouth moments from the contemporary interviewees: Davy Graham (just to see him alive & on television) and a vaguely familiar looking bedraggled middleaged woman - a cross between Patti Smith & a provincial housewife interrupted while walking her dogs in the morning, then the caption appears: "Anne Briggs".

The archive show afterwards was even worse, just the clips from the first show in full - I went to bed when Fog on the Tyne came on again

bham, Monday, 13 February 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

worth it this week for the ISB footage. the first weeks archive footage was better though - 50s britain looked so desolate. the beatniks of newquay! i had a half hour arguement with my flatmate over the maccoll/seeger decision that people could only sing songs from their country of birth in the club (i was against).

zappi (joni), Monday, 13 February 2006 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

The early part of the part you saw (which was the first part I saw) was great. That early footage of Davy Graham was interesting in an "I could do that when I was younger than him" kind of way (of course, that's not to say he could play better than what was shown). Was there a 'current' bit of D.Graham? I missed that.

The Nick drake section was brief, which was only right as he didn't have that much effect at the time.

It was right to show the Strawbs and Lidisfarne, if only to show that Folk was getting commercial and/or politically lost. And how Steeleye Span got into more 'comedy folk' at the end, in search of hits.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 February 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

Also, during the "excerpts in full" part, Amber and Alice wandered in and took interest. So Alice sat on my knee and strummed and/or picked at the strings while I did chord changes on Ambers amazingly in-tune with the TV acoustic guitar. Although, as I had to explain, just because I used to do music and play in a band, that did not mean 'that was me' there on the telly. Especially when it's Leonard Cohen there.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 February 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

I really enjoyed it, esp Davy Graham (Folk Blues & Beyond is a must-have imo) and I don't think I know anyone who doesn't like Pentangle's Light Flight (their equivalent of Georgy Girl I suppose).

Jez (Jez), Monday, 13 February 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

'twas a theme tune for a BBC programme, I believe. "Take three girls".

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 February 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

Aye - and on the subject of Georgy Girl, if the Strawbs were allowed on the programme, where were The Seekers?

Jez (Jez), Monday, 13 February 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Episode two had some good bits -- nice footage of Davy Graham in particular -- but the first episode was fascinating. There was a lot of detail about how folk music was used as a political football; in the early years of the twentieth century you had cultural conservatives wishing to consolidate British culture (in opposition to European enemies like Germany, in particular) and ending up with the genteel settings of virtually extinct rural folk music by the likes of Britten, Vaughan Wiliams, Percy Grainger etc. Then they detailed the whole communist party colonisation of folk after WW2, with Ewan MacColl working along the same orthodox party lines as Pete Seeger in the US. I was also amused by the whole folk/skiffle schism, Peggy Seeger/Ewan MacColl's almost fascistic insistence that people could only sing songs from the region they came from. Terrific use of vintage footage too.

john lewis (johnnylewis), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

That does sound more interesting, I must say. I think the second episode suffered from trying to cover too much. (The Watersons, Hampstead beatniks, Donovan, ISB, John Martyn, The Strawbs, Dylan , Paul Simon, Martin Luther King etc etc).

The next one seems to be Pogues & Billy Bragg

bham, Monday, 13 February 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

.. and ends at the Fence collective.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)


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