Dog Faced Hermans - C/D, S/D

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I have Those Deep Buds by DFH, it didn't do a huge amount for me. Am I mssing a bunch of better stuff by them?

Seen on the Stretchheads thread, inspiring me to do this one.

CLASSIC.

Search:
Everyday Time Bomb/Humans Fly CD (their 1st 2 albums with a bonus track or two, available on Konkurrent last time I checked)

Mental Blocks For All Ages CD (their 3rd, a great one, was on Project A-Bomb but who know now)

Too Much For The Red Ticker/Timebomb 7" (also on the ill-fated Project A-Bomb label)

split 7" with Jonestown - Great live version of Ornette Coleman's "Peace Warrior".

Hum Of Life (great, was on Alternative Tentacles, maybe still around)

Those Deep Buds (slightly less great, as noted above, also on A.T.)

Live At Ancienne Chocolaterie cassette (maybe hard to find)

Destroy:
Bump And Swing (pointless contract-breaking live LP for AT)

Treat split cassette w/The Ex - noisy and sloppy)

Live Action And Increasing cassette (early, not very together)


and as I mentioned on the other thread, this was a truly amazing live band.

anybody heard the first single "Unbending"?

sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

they were on a scottish tv show in the late 80s called FSD, i think they performed "cactus" and "mary houdini". now thats something i like to turn up on youtube!

zappi (joni), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

pretty much what sleeve said -- i'll ponder this further later. (and i have all this stuff on mp3 if anyone needs YSIs.)

kanye twitty (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

they were on a scottish tv show in the late 80s called FSD, i think they performed "cactus" and "mary houdini".

If it's the same programme, and I think it is, the other band on the bill were the Cateran, who were a bit like a Scottish Husker Du before that sort of thing would have become a lot more common. I liked 'em a lot at the time, probably still would.

But as for the Dog Faced Hermans - yes, a great great band. Particularly liked the first couple of albums. Never had the privilege of seeing them live though.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

great band, nice people.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

Classic. "Hear the Dogs" is THE song about the European attitude toward immigrants.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Kanye— Yeah, if you don't mind. I'm curious. I remember having a track of theirs on a sampler that I liked, but I never looked any further into them. YSI me something interesting/representative?

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)


Yeah right, excellent.

patrick bateman (mickeygraft), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

classic! one of the greatest live shows i've ever seen. i only know the alternative tentacles stuff. never heard the stuff prior to that.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

The great unsung band of the 90s, I spout off about them every chance I get. Saw them several times on their final US tour, interviewed the drummer, Wilf.

Imagine the artistic depth of The Fall combined with the sonic attack of The Ex and you've got a fair approximation of Dog Faced Hermans - though to be fair they never sounded like anyone but themselves.

Hum of Life is their masterpiece, but was available for about 20 seconds in the US on Project A-Bomb. I'm 99% certain it was never issued through Alternative Tentacles. I made sure when I saw them live that I scooped up every release they had. I believe my Everyday Time Bomb/Humans Fly and Mental Blocks For All Ages CDs are on Konkurrel.

If I had to rank their studio albums I'd have to go with:
1) Hum of Life: As noted, most perfect and awe-inspiring.
2) Mental Blocks For All Ages: Dry run for Hum of Life.
3) Those Deep Buds: Their best sounding album (from an engineering/production soundpoint), sometimes the lack of aggression makes for a more sweeping experience, sometimes it allows things to drag.
4) Everyday Time Bomb: Their punkiest album, the uppity psycho Dick Dale Twin Reverb gtr work reminds me of East Bay Ray at times.
5) Humans Fly: Weak-to-strong material is 50-50 for me on this one.

But those rankings are close and 2-4 could flip flop from day to day. They never made a bad album.

Their sound is so busy it can take a while for it to soak in, cf Captain Beefheart, so if at first you don't dig them, keep trying. It pays.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

"Jan 9" from Hum of Life
http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=25TW8TBBWM5FO3OB42T4L5X4Z8

"We could only see the soles of their feet / we thought there were angels up ahead"

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

"Love Split w/ Blood" from Hum of Life
http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1JC7Y13WP5VWT0E7TIGEGNMW92

The old 8 Eyed Spy song, one of the most inspired covers I've ever heard.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

cool, i haven't heard these guys in such a long time

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

sleeve & Edward III broke it down so well, that all I can do is add much love

Brian Jones (Brian Jones), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - same here. i liked "those deep buds" back when but i can't remember what it sounds like at all.

|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l| (eman), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hey kanye, do you have the "Miss O'Grady" B-side in a decent rip? That song is amazing and I only have some awful 96k version.

And it was Konkurrel, not Konkurrent, thanks Edward. He is also right about Hum Of Life being on Project A-Bomb.

I'd like to note that that cool metallic upswingy sound on the guitar in "Jan 9" is the sound of Andy putting a soup can lid through his strings and hitting it with a screwdriver. He plays with the Ex now, I swear he has the same guitar he had with DFH ten years ago.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 16 February 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

we played w them on th sebadoh tour and wanted more of that...sadly that didnt unfold

dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

Classic. My favorite memory: seeing them at Emo's in Houston, one drunk guy in the front next to me kept trying to fuck with Andy's guitar and the monitor. At one accent-point in a song, Andy came down on the guy's head with the headstock. Hard.

HUM OF LIFE is probably the best, though there's much greatness throughout the whole discography. Too bad it's all so hard to track down. Loveletter in Houston started reissuing all the albums at one point but didn't get very far, I don't think, and I can't find any evidence that the label still exists.

sleeve, any more details on BUMP AND SWING being "contract-breaking"? Was there animosity between the band and the label?

dougfacedhermans, Thursday, 16 February 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

I swear he has the same guitar he had with DFH ten years ago.

-- sleeve (sleev...), February 15th, 2006 8:25 PM.

Black Strat + Fender Twin, what more do you need? Besides a soup can lid, I mean.

Was there animosity between the band and the label?

-- dougfacedhermans (dou...), February 16th, 2006 6:33 AM.

AFAIK the band just wanted to give it a rest but were still obligated for one more album. Wilf had nothing but good things to say about AT when I talked to him, and this was after the release of Bump & Swing.

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 16 February 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, what Edward said. Just didn't want to make a new album, no animosity.

Yo [Edward] or others, can y'all tell me anything about that post-DFH collaboration between Marion and Chris Cutler that was allegedly released on Recommended? I think I only saw it mentioned once and would love to buy/hear it.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 16 February 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

hey.
well i found my old video of FSD & have uploaded to youtube. exciting eh?
incineration http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVLWhTWTUic
mary houdini http://www.youtube.com/?v=ijWnmq22Vog
big pot http://www.youtube.com/?v=1jHC7Vgmqic

zappi (joni), Saturday, 18 February 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yowza!!! Many thanks!

sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 18 February 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

I just got Hum of Life and LOVE IT. Which one next?

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Mental Blocks or the Humans Fly/Everyday Time Bomb CD on Konkurrel. Sadly, both are oop at this time, but you should be able to find them.

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

OMG that youtube video of "Incineration" KILLS!

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Tell me more about this band.

admrl, Friday, 20 July 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Don't have any albums but I've got their debut single "Unbend". Kinda fun, kinda silly in a good way. Saw them live a few times too and they were very raucous.

everything, Friday, 20 July 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Saw them live at Speedboat Gallery in Mpls and Lounge Ax in Chicago. Awesome. Where are the bands like them and Tragic Mulatto?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 20 July 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

I loved it when Erase Errata was briefly labeled "Dog Faced Hermans Jr" - obviously there is the trumpet connection.

Michael F Gill, Friday, 20 July 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

d.wolk gets it all down on paper. god bless him.

http://www.trouserpress.com/entry.php?a=dog_faced_hermans

i said it before and i'll say it again: what a band. so great.

scott seward, Friday, 20 July 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

I picked up a copy of "Mental Blocks For All Ages" when I was out in Portland, OR. I guess the record store I was at (Mississippi Records) has their own in-house label and reissued it in an edition of 1000. They had a few copies left. It's really good.

The closest thing I can think of like them in terms of sound would be Eva Luna-era Moonshake, but that comparison fails to capture the controlled chaos.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 20 July 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wait. Emusic has "Those Deep Buds" and "Bump and Swing" available. I didn't know it, but Guy Fixsen recorded it which explains my Moonshake comparison somewhat.

Bill in Chicago, Friday, 20 July 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

Other Scottish bands of the era with a similar sound (in decending order): Stretcheads, Dawson, Badgewearer.

everything, Sunday, 22 July 2007 03:57 (eighteen years ago)

sleeve & Edward III broke it down so well, that all I can do is add much love
-- Brian Jones (Brian Jones), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:40 (1 year ago) Link

nicky lo-fi, Sunday, 22 July 2007 05:54 (eighteen years ago)

Their drummer Wilf is playing with a band called the Bent Moustache now, I saw them open for Sebadoh and they were all kinds of great.

sleeve, Sunday, 22 July 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

does anyone remember a band called Donkey? i think there were dog faced hermans in that band...

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 22 July 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

I believe Jer from Dawson is also in the Bent Moustache. Maybe worth checking out.

everything, Sunday, 22 July 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, you are correct. I actually started a thread about it...

Sebadoh 2007 tour (ATTENTION: Dawson and Dog Faced Hermans fans)

sleeve, Sunday, 22 July 2007 23:18 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

that Mississippi Records version of Mental Blocks is not only reissued but remastered by 2 of the band members. Sounds fantastic. FE mailorder may still have some. I never got that CD verson and my original Konkurrel LP was pretty beat, so this is a true pleasure to hear.

sleeve, Saturday, 29 September 2007 03:36 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

This is my new favourite band.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 2 November 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't know they were Scottish - for some reason I always thought they were Dutch - probably because of the The Ex connection. I guess Marion's accent does sound more Scottish than Dutch though. I agree with Wolk's Trouser Press synopsis - Those Deep Buds is the masterpiece. Great sound quality, yes, but also rich textures, fierce lyrics, and engaging tunes.

o. nate, Friday, 2 November 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Hum Of Life to be reissued by Mississippi records soon, according to The Ex's web page.

Excited to get it on vinyl and assumedly remastered, my CD is probably the lowest-volume disc I own.

sleeve, Monday, 19 January 2009 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

oh that's awesome news - yeah the sound is very muffled on the cd version

armatrader joan's (donna rouge), Monday, 19 January 2009 21:05 (seventeen years ago)

They were such great musicians (or maybe just had to work with crappy recording conditions) that they sounded even larger and more interesting live than in studio. On the Live at the Ancienne Chocolaterie tape, they're massive. And I still listen to a DAT I made of them in Boston (well, Cambridge) from late '94.

Michael Train, Monday, 19 January 2009 22:57 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

my local record store has copies of the reissued Hum of Life LP! Gonna pick one up very soon.

all these damn bands reuniting, why can't one of them be DFH?

Ivan, Monday, 8 June 2009 19:30 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

COLIN MACLEAN / ANDY MOOR - Everything but the Beginning
CD, Unsounds U17
http://www.unsounds.com
http://www.myspace.com/andymoortheex
http://www.magpiemusicdance.com/archives/author/colin

The first release from Andy Moor and Colin MacLean since they disbanded Dog Faced Hermans 13 years ago. A collection of 'live' recordings of improvisiations over a period of three years in collabortion with several dancers that took place in Amsterdam at OT 301. Andy's unmistakable guitar blended with live sampling and electronics from Colin, creating a dark filmic atmosphere.

Colin McLean
Scots musician + sound engineer based in Amsterdam since 1991. Working at social/cultural centre OT301 since 1999. Began playing music in Edinburgh in early 80s as bass player in Dog Faced Hermans. Current musical activities include improvising electronics for dance performances [MUSIC / DANCE301, WONDERLAND, MAGPIE], playing bass guitar with GETATCHEW MEKURIA + THE EX, touring extensively [Europe, USA, Canada, Ethiopia] as live sound engineer with THE EX and mastering CD projects for local labels [Unsounds, Terp, Power vs. Power, Transformed Dreams]. Co-curator [with Alexandra Manasse] and musical director of MUSIC / DANCE 301, a monthly music + dance improvisation performance event at OT301.

Andy Moor
Born in London England 1962 Andy began his musical life in Edinburgh, Scotland playing guitar with the band Dog Faced Hermans, a multi faceted eclectic group that mixed energetic post punk energy with traditional tunes and improvisations....
In 1990 he moved to the Netherlands after an invitation to join Dutch band
The Ex...the openess and versatility of the musicians in this group has brought them into contact with many musicians from different scenes and backgrounds..including Tom Cora(cello), Han Bennink(drums), Wolter Wierbos(trombone),John Butcher (sax). Andy also was a founding member of Kletka Red...fusing traditional Klezmer, Greek and Russian songs with their own frantic styles of playing....

Andy's latest projects include a duo with Yannis Kyriakides a quartet with Ken Vandermark , Terrie Ex and Paal Nilssen Love called Lean Left and duos with Anne James Chaton and DJ Rupture and Colin Maclean. Andy continues to be a full time member of The Ex who most recently have been collaborating with veteran Ethiopian saxaphonist Getatchew Mekuria.

scott seward, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 18:15 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

one of my favorite sounds on earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOAStfrwLQo&feature=related

scott seward, Monday, 29 August 2011 03:03 (fourteen years ago)

Ooh, that's an awesome "Volkswagen," looking forward to a spare moment to hear the rest. Marion C. in especially fine form. I wish I had heard these guys when I was in high school--I love them now but I would have been completely obsessed then.

bentelec, Monday, 29 August 2011 05:00 (fourteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

God these guys whip fuckin ass. I thought about them and thought "haven't heard them in year" and picked a random album and the first song on it was called "January 9." This happened just tonight. It was my destiny to listen to the Dog Faced Hermans tonight. They whip ass.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 02:11 (two years ago)

wish someone would reissue Everyday Timebomb, I have reissues of the 1st and 3rd albums and the CD of Bump & Swing but Everyday Timebomb might be my favourite and that one hasn't been repressed since it came out

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:49 (two years ago)

Fantastic, incredible band, I was in high school when Project-A-Bomb was distributing their first records in North America, though I missed them at the coffee shop basement when they came through at time

Marion Coutts's memoir The Iceberg about her husband's brain cancer is, well it isn't exactly a fun read, but is a great book nonetheless

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:59 (two years ago)

Everyday Timebomb rules, I mean most of their discography does but "Scottish Block", "New Shoots" and "Live Action" are some of their best

still looking for decent rips of their first Peel Session and a couple other stray comp tracks, in case anyone is holding

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 20:02 (two years ago)

Ooh, most of their stuff is up on Bandcamp, and looks like things have been steadily remastered over the past ~15 years!

https://dogfacedhermans.bandcamp.com/

Hum of Life sounds better than ever. Wonder if I ever bumped into Colin when I was hanging around OT301 a decade ago?

etc, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 20:31 (two years ago)

i was blessed to be in the right time and place to see them play regularly. but, while i really liked them then, i feel i wish i'd appreciated a little more just how special they were.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 21:36 (two years ago)

love those deep buds

fpsa, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 21:40 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIQjT9nQv4Q

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 21:47 (two years ago)

always loved 'beautiful' off 'everyday timebomb', kinda reminds me of the sugarcubes

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 21:50 (two years ago)

I've often thought of that comparison, too, about the band in general. Like an Ex/Sugarcubes supergroup or something.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 21:57 (two years ago)

one year passes...

Wait, what's the context? Is there a new book or exhibit of her stuff?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 February 2025 16:24 (eleven months ago)

great picture!

scott seward, Sunday, 9 February 2025 16:36 (eleven months ago)

Seriously, that's a Fugazi-level stage-puzzel/pretzel.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 February 2025 17:36 (eleven months ago)

puzzle, even.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 9 February 2025 17:36 (eleven months ago)

incredible, love them so much

sleeve, Sunday, 9 February 2025 17:38 (eleven months ago)

Great photos! That Butthole Surfers one also really captures the moment. But surely that's not the members of Husker Du smiling next to each other in 1993

Theracane Gratifaction (bendy), Monday, 10 February 2025 18:42 (eleven months ago)

Ha, yeah I caught that too, that date seems off.

better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 10 February 2025 20:03 (eleven months ago)


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