David Bowie's "Jump, They Say" - C or D?

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My favorite underrated Bowie single, and responsible for the Bowie obsession of my college years. Reviews dismiss the production as "dated" but I just don't get it. Nile Rodgers' production is hi-tech without succumbing to early '90s electro cliches (in fact, I dare anyone to name a song that sounded like this in 1993). Bowie's vocal is the definition of cool: restrained, rumbling, perfect pitch, until the second time the chorus comes around. Great idea to complement his sax playing with Rodgers' subtle rhythm guitar and a trumpet solo.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

I need to listen to this again. Been a while. I note the album got rereleased in a 2 CD special edition etc., but is it worth it?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

Don't own the 2-disc; that's a bit much. But I read your review! You seemed to be yawning!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

Possibly I was! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

definitely one of his best singles. i'm a little surprised it wasn't a bigger hit; it had a snazzy video and everything; better than heart's filthy lesson which WAS a hit later on. must have just not been his year.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

i love this song.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

i have been completely addicted to it for the past couple of weeks, too. weird.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

The video is fabulous, far and away his best of the '90s.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

Never saw the video but always liked the song. Classic.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

I think Ned's AMG review is pretty OTM actually. I like the song OK, and the solo is nice, but the lyric is sort of weak and the accompaniment in general is COMPLETELY lazy-sounding. I don't know if it played that way in '93, but to me it sounds like the worst kind of "let's combine rock and electronica!" type approach - just throw some skittery beat under it, smooth out the edges, and break for lunch. The result is that the parts that should jump out the most jump out the least, and the song just kind of sits there. It's still fun to do at karaoke, though.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 16 February 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

haha see you tomorrow casino!

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 16 February 2006 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

(I really don't even remember reviewing this. But obviously I did.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 February 2006 05:17 (nineteen years ago)

I remember when this came out, it sort of proved that he could actually be "good" again, after years of Tin Machine and the "Glass Spider" years.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 16 February 2006 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of instrumentation is on "Jump, They Say" ?

Is it at all guitar-heavy like "Scary Monsters" ? And does he fuse
the inorganic with the organic ?


Maybe I'll sample some tidbits at Amazondotcom...

Peppy Zimbot, Thursday, 16 February 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

The album sucked, but this was a great single. First sign that he a return to form was on the way.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 February 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

...which never arrived.

hahaha.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 16 February 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

let's continue that discussion Outside, Chewshabadoo ;)

willem -- (willem), Thursday, 16 February 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get the complaints that there's not much going on. The track seethes with repressed energy until the chorus; note the sly buildup during that fantastic bridge ("They say, `Hey, that's really something...'"); how the sax solo gets manic when the man finally jumps, as if mirroring his harrowing emotional state.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 February 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

Well, IMO, while Bowie's 70s work remains his artistic prime, probably forever, I find most of his material from 1995 onwards considerably stronger than what he did in the late 80s and early 90s. Both his electronica experimentation on "Earthling" and his more classic "back to the old style" albums such as "Heathen" are very good.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 February 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Question: is the idea that the guy is your usual guy jumping off a ledge (eg "Jumper" by Third Eye Blind, "Save The Life of My Child" by Simon & Garfunkel)? Because for better or worse, I always picture it as more like "Jump Around" by House of Pain, or "Jump" by Van Halen. Or Kriss Kross. Like... "They say... JUMP!" and everybody on the dance floor is supposed to jump! up.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

It's supposed to be a tribute about his (older?) brother, who had problems, shall we say?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

It is, and has admited to it.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 February 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Wasn't the truly shit cover of I Feel Free on that album meant to be a brotherly tribute too?

M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 16 February 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Jump, They Say was pretty classic by the way!

M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 16 February 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

too many songs about people jumping, not nearly enough about people setting themselves on fire and jumping onto an oil slick

gear (gear), Thursday, 16 February 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't that what Bowie did artistically during the Never Let Me Down era.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 16 February 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000000WAA.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

he is rather close to the fire and if you imagine the photographer standing on an oil slick....

willem -- (willem), Thursday, 16 February 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

Great, GREAT song. So cool. I know no other song in '93 that sounded like this: "modern," in the best sense -- a modernity that didn't exist, and might never. The Nile Rodgers rhythm guitar, the driving bass, the TRUMPET solo, and Bowie's own wailing sax over the chorus.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 01:12 (sixteen years ago)

I can see why it never caught on in the States: college radio didn't play anything this glossy (Bowie and Rodgers still pretending that "Let's Dance" could be updated).

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 01:13 (sixteen years ago)

Just listened to it for the first time in 15 years and yes I agree it holds up. Sounds a bit like it could have sat nicely on Heathens, actually. I think the video is supposed to be inspired by Marker's La Jetée.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 08:41 (sixteen years ago)

Oh yes, always liked this, and even the lyric I think

I used to play this LP over and over again, taped from a library CD!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:43 (sixteen years ago)

Interesting thread revival -- I heard this on the radio yesterday for the first time in lord knows how long. I could get over how great it sounded -- 100X better than I remember it!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:53 (sixteen years ago)

Don't listen to the crowd they say jump.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:36 (sixteen years ago)

Got to belieieieve some-bo-dy

I have the cd-single somewhere. Don't remember any of the remixes by heart (Leftfield did one) - any good?

willem, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 11:49 (sixteen years ago)

This song is not at all bad. The album it was taken from may be among his very worst though. Very few highlights there in general.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 12:27 (sixteen years ago)

Al reviving his own thread shockah.

I didn't remember this song, really, until this thread prompted me to pull it out. On first listen, I must say I like the chorus quite a bit -- is that Bowie's sax playing the melody?

Not really much of a "tune" anywhere else, tho.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 April 2009 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

is that Bowie's sax playing the melody?

Yes!

Al reviving his own thread shockah.

He said JUMP!

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 April 2009 03:24 (sixteen years ago)

And the trumpet is the other Bowie!

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 16 April 2009 08:12 (sixteen years ago)

Not really much of a "tune" anywhere else, tho.

It's not one of his most memorable melodies, no. And yet Jump, They Say is, to my mind, one of his most memorable songs. It's all about the ominous mood and and the sleek electro-funk arrangement (which, like most of his work, has dated remarkably well). I do love the grim, Cohenesque humour of the final verse, too:

They say, "Hey, that's really something"
They feel he should get some time
I say he should watch his ass
My friend, don't listen to the crowd
They say, "Jump."

It was interesting to read above that the subject matter is Bowie's late brother. I had always assumed that it was a commentary on the relationship between artists and their audience.

Vast Halo, Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

this song is pretty good

Lord Iffy Boatrace (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

Black Tie White Noise is at least as good as Outside: three or four terrific song. "You've Been Around" also gets under my skin; an interesting decision to mix Gabrels' guitar real low so that it sounds like this foghorn.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 April 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)

total classic, great video too.

ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Friday, 17 April 2009 11:55 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

Particularly good write-up: http://bowiesongs.wordpress.com/2012/11/02/jump-they-say/

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

four years pass...

I was right!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 02:47 (eight years ago)

I don't get why anyone would have beef with this. It sounds a bit like a weird throbbing drone even though the production is all clear and undistorted, it's a little bit ADD and the chord progression never really resolves "properly" as that blog post points out. Noize people should respect if not love this one.

I liked most of this whole album fwiw.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 03:24 (eight years ago)

great track

Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 04:23 (eight years ago)

This track: Classic.
The album it's from: Dud.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 09:15 (eight years ago)

Is it underrated?

This was his first single after all that Tin Machine covfefe, and it was all "David's Back!!!" and it was true.

I did have a ahem Bowie Singles setoftracks, and I have to say the Tin Machine singles were way better than the Bowie singles that preceeded them (the eighties ones post "Let's Dance" album, "Loving the Alien" excepted), but I've not heard those albums so hey.

Mark G, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 09:22 (eight years ago)

Let's Dance where I get off the bus and Outside is where I get back on. If he'd had the good sense not to release hours... his run of records from Outside onwards is actually pretty decent.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 12:18 (eight years ago)

I don't get why anyone would have beef with this. It sounds a bit like a weird throbbing drone even though the production is all clear and undistorted, it's a little bit ADD and the chord progression never really resolves "properly" as that blog post points out. Noize people should respect if not love this one.

I liked most of this whole album fwiw.

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, August 1, 2017 8:24 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 12:19 (eight years ago)

The verses are so tense thanks to those unresolved chords.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 12:51 (eight years ago)

I like most of this album, particularly this song, the scott walker cover, 'you've been around', and 'miracle goodnight'. like every album from never let me down onward, it was presented as "bowie is back!" also I like both tin machine albums and their singles so whatever. as good as this album was it feels like it was let down by the record company; I think they went bankrupt right after it came out or something. He should have toured behind it.

akm, Thursday, 3 August 2017 05:04 (eight years ago)

That's what happened. I don't think it would ever have gone over in America (it debuted and peaked in #39), but the collapse of Savage destroyed any chance of a success. It's interesting thinking about this album as either the end of an era (i.e. Bowie as mainstream star; look at his suits and hair during this period) or the beginning of a new one.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 August 2017 11:09 (eight years ago)

I just watched the video again and, yeah, I always forget how the last part of the 20th century was unable to imagine a future where men didn't wear suits and ties all the time

the Zuckerberg category would completely misunderstand this song

El Tomboto, Friday, 4 August 2017 04:18 (eight years ago)

This album was the end of an era. It's not just the last 80s Bowie record, it's the last Bowie as Innovator record. It's the beginning of him not being ahead of his time, and then finally getting to be himself because he's not chasing the bleeding edge anymore. It is officially the Bowie Gets Old inflection point. That's probably why people feel so comfortable hating on it. They're still full of shit.

El Tomboto, Friday, 4 August 2017 04:22 (eight years ago)

(to alfred's point above. wasn't trying to pretend I came up with that)

El Tomboto, Friday, 4 August 2017 04:22 (eight years ago)

"It is officially the Bowie Gets Old inflection point." I'd actually push this off a few records to Hours.

akm, Friday, 4 August 2017 12:48 (eight years ago)


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