t/s: grover washington jr vs gato barbieri

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vahid (vahid), Friday, 17 February 2006 09:29 (nineteen years ago)

Gato's playing with Carla Bley is teh brilliance

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 17 February 2006 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

Gato

cracktivity1 (cracktivity1), Friday, 17 February 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

holy fuck. just as i was typing this message, i shit you not, GWjr's Hydra came on the random iTunes! fucking weird.

anyways, what i was saying is that gato wins for albums and overall listenability. i haven't heard any of his later soft jazz albums, but his work on Flying Dutchman is all incredible. freaked out spiritual jazz with latin flourishes. almost as good as who he's trying to sound like - Pharoah Sanders. i've got Fenix, El Pampero, The Third World and his album on BYG with Dollar Brand (listed as both Confluence & Hamba Khale!). he's also on the amazing Liberation Music Orchestras, the fantabulous Escalator Over the Hill, and a bunch of Don Cherry albums (which i don't think i've heard, even though Cherry is one of my faves).

but.... i think Grover wins for singles and samplability. Hydra & Knucklehead are both fucking amazing funked out tracks. his sax does get a bit too sweet for me most of the time. though.

someone to add to the equation... John Klemmer. mixes the out, post-coltrane playing of Gato with the funk & samples of Grover. and he plays everything through the echoplex! i just got another one of his records yesterday. Magic & Moments on Impulse from 73. out/funky/trippy. really fucking great.

team jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 17 February 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

CAN WE TALK ABOUT "JUST THE TWO OF US"?

vahid (vahid), Friday, 17 February 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

THE BILL WITHER'S SONG?

team jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 17 February 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

THE WILL SMITH SONG?

Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 17 February 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

one more point for Gato: he has a track called Tupac Amaru

team jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 17 February 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

Grover Washington Jr. to listen to, Gato Barbieri to be interested in hearing more by.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 18 February 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...
Grover fucking sux. i can't listen to his songs past the intro. i feel like i'm listening to Kenny G or John Tesh.

i just picked up Inner City Blues (inner shitty blues, amirite) and he ruins good songs once he starts playing.

jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 22 September 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

I watched Last Tango in Paris for the first time recently and I was struck by the way the saxophone seemed to function as the same sort of urban sophisticate signifier that smooth jazz tries to put across, even though there was a slight hint of skronk. It was like I could see how Barbieri could get from his old work to his smooth jazz sort of stuff (which I have to admit I haven't heard much of).

On the other hand, some of that old stuff has sounded pretty good. Maybe it was just the music for this particular soundtrack.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 22 September 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

But somehow the soundtrack had a smooth jazz sort of feel even though it wasn't smooth jazz.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 22 September 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Gato for Fenix and Third World.
Jaxon, do you know if Charles Stepney produced the Chess/Cadet Klemmer stuff?
'Free Soul' on Blowin' Gold is the jam.

mucho (mucho), Friday, 22 September 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

stepney didn't produce Blowin' Gold. 'twas produced by Marshall Chess & Gene Barge. that's the only album of his i have on cadet. the other's are on Impulse or MCA

jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 22 September 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

this thread was meant as a joke

a la "augustus pablo vs john coltrane"

the art ensemble of chicago house (vahid), Friday, 22 September 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

i don't get the joke. but i really just needed to vent on spending a hard earned 2$ on that shit ass grover album

jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 22 September 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...
i heard some of live at the bijou and it was pretty nice

600, Friday, 27 April 2007 10:07 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

np: "winelight"

deej, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 06:44 (eighteen years ago)

Gotta get me Gato's Fenix. Just gotta, you know. Pronto.

t**t, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

Impossible! They are both mega.

Jeb, Friday, 20 July 2007 04:28 (eighteen years ago)

eight years pass...

daaaaaaaaamn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwC0jHD46vo

Spottie, Saturday, 29 August 2015 07:03 (ten years ago)

six years pass...

I kind of want to poll Grover's Reed Seed. I probably won't because it's not a very cool album to like, but dammit, it's definitive smooth jazz and is subsequently very classic. But anyway, if you like a very mellow, sax-laced funky smooth jazz jam or two, check it out. Maybe* skip the Billy Joel cover.

Here's "Loran's Dance" (1978)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0VO7Y4YyHo

An aside/ xpost to random old r+b: always wanted to hear the one rare album by the band that backed Grover on Reed Seed, so of course it's on the internet jukebox by now and I'm listening to it. It's definitely more of an smooth jazz/R+B album, but I'm enjoying it all the same. First couple songs have kind of a boogie feel and there's a lot of those vintage synth sounds we love so much throughout. Some catchy grooves for sure. Great to finally hear it.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:43 (three years ago)

*definitely

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:44 (three years ago)

Also yes, please post Unlock the Funk in horrible pun cover art.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:48 (three years ago)

Okay, this was the last song on the Locksmith album so I hadn't heard it yet before posting that. "Far Beyond" is some serious business.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:58 (three years ago)

a secret place is a nice grover album

brimstead, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 00:01 (three years ago)

i knew this would be an Austin revive!

budo jeru, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 02:47 (three years ago)

It's not very real work, but at least it's honest.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 03:37 (three years ago)


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