How do I shot Ableton Live 5

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So far I've only read the tutorials and played around with it a bit. Do any of you have tips for DJ usage? Be as random as you like.

― Kong, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 13:55 (twenty years ago)

i've been meaning to ask the same question.

more specifically, what do i do with these warp markers?

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 13:57 (twenty years ago)

oh, and twitch to thread.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 13:57 (twenty years ago)

cutty: read the tutorials! there are shitload of them on the web for dj-ing with ableton live. search in your favourite p2p for "ableton pdf" and you should get some nice tutorials.

kong: if you read the tutorials then surely you've realised that only your imagination can stop you now. cut bits out of songs and mix them over other songs, make some of your own diplo style sound effects for "crashing" between songs. play with the 3 band 'DJ-EQ' to steal basslines n other bits. go mental with the effects. play with the automation and the envolopes, make some cut-ups. make some of your own sounds with the synths. endless things you can do. get one taste.

― deathoftom, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:10 (twenty years ago)

cutty - there's a good introduction to warping here. It's basically just the process of telling the program where all the beats in the track are. Seems pretty opaque at first, but its quite simple once you get used to it.

― jng (jng), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)

i feel a bit stupid for asking this, but how do i record a set to wav/aiff/mp3? i have barely skimmed the tutorial obviously :B

― Yawn (Wintermute), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

1. Make a new audio track
2. Open up the I/O tab
3. Set the input for the new track to 'Resampling'
4. Arm the track for recording (i.e click the record button next to the fader)
5. Click the little circle in one of the empty clips to start recording

Easyish ;)

― jng (jng), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 18:14 (twenty years ago)

thanks! 6 = "render to disk" i guess?

― Yawn (Wintermute), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:45 (twenty years ago)

I've been using the cut-up method a lot in my sets; I set up my warp markers to coincide with interesting points in the track for edits, then jump around as necessary in the mix. This approach makes for speedy mixing, breakdowns on demand, multi-part layering, teasing with samples of things to come, etc.

― jeffery (jeffery), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 20:27 (twenty years ago)

xpost

Nah, render to disk isn't that great in this situation. When you use render to disk in the session view, it records the master output for a pre-specified amount of time. That isn't much use unless you know exactly how long you'll be playing for.

The method I gave above allows you to record for as long as you want. To grab the audio file at the end, just go to the folder you've got Live set up to record into. The file will be sitting there, with the same name as the clip you recorded into.

― jng (jng), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 02:11 (twenty years ago)

it's a real bore having to put warp markers on every track i want in my DJ set. i have recorded in 2 bars of a drum machine and am beatmatching the tracks to that but it takes 10mins a track. is there any method to speed this thing up?

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:32 (twenty years ago)

also is there any method of beatmatching on the fly without warp markers?

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 12:34 (twenty years ago)

Keep in mind that a lot of warp marker tutorials on-line were written for Live 4, not 5. The automatic warping has improved a lot, and most of the time you don't have to adjust the markers at all, or at most you'll only have to bump the song a beat forward or backward to get it to match.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:32 (twenty years ago)

http://ilx.p3r.net/newanswers.php?board=12

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Warping isn't that slow once you get used to it. I can do most tracks in a minute or so now. It's just about practice. Of course, tougher stuff (i.e. anything with a real drummer) takes longer.

― jng (jng), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 15:30 (twenty years ago)

You can set up Ableton with a cue channel if you have a multi-channel sound card. It's a pain in the ass to do this when you're mixing a set, but in a pinch you can use the cue channel and set warp markers in the headphones while you're playing.

― jeffery (jeffery), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

I'd be curious to hear from people (Twitch?) who are using vinyl/CDs and Ableton in the same set. How do you transition between the two?

― jeffery (jeffery), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

a nice little warping tutorial for noobs

http://www.joshvon.com/tech/rock-solid-warping-101.htm

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:23 (twenty years ago)

that was linked to upthread already.

i'm also interested in how people manager their files while dj'ing... do you usually just keep 2-3 audio tracks open and drag files in and out or what?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I usually keep three tracks open, with those three mapped to my controller and loaded up with effects and so forth. Then I keep a pool of tunes organized into columns according to mood, tempo, feel, etc.

― jeffery (jeffery), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:31 (twenty years ago)

two questions

1) once I've warp marked a track, can I open it in another set with the same warp markers?

2) if i create two instances of a track in a set i seem to be able to do different warp markers. how do I open a particular one of these in a new set?

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:18 (twenty years ago)

ok don't panic. i've figured out 1)

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

[PDF: Ableton's DJing in Live 3 tutorial]

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)

Also, not to patronize, the user forum on the Ableton site has a good Tips & Tricks section.

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 22:43 (twenty years ago)

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PEACE 5000

― Z.C. Dick, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:40 (twenty years ago)

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― Z.C. Dick, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:43 (twenty years ago)

classy

― jng (jng), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:51 (twenty years ago)

Steady e-thuggin'

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:53 (twenty years ago)

I'd be curious to hear from people (Twitch?) who are using vinyl/CDs and Ableton in the same set. How do you transition between the two?

i use the cursor up and down keys on my powerbook to adjust the tempo, just like i would with a pitch control on a technics. so, if i want to bring ableton in, i'll just mix it into the record i'm playing. it's a little fiddly at first but once you get used to it, you can mix in the computer about as fast as if it was a turntable. if it's going slightly out of time, i'll just increase or decrease the bpm by 1bmp for a fraction of a second which is the same as slightly slowing down / speeding up a technics.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 23 February 2006 00:01 (twenty years ago)

I'm still hoping this thread will address the possibility of getting Live 5 to work on my Powerbook again. It did until this year, but then it gave me an error message and I have been stranded since. It seems like they found a way to deal with all the loose copies floating around. I had bought version 3 a couple of years back, but now I just don't have the money to upgrade for basically the same price.

― Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 23 February 2006 02:32 (twenty years ago)

So... How do I shot Ableton Live 5?

― Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 23 February 2006 02:34 (twenty years ago)

I know too many people using illegal copies for the crackdown theory to be true.

― Confounded (Confounded), Thursday, 23 February 2006 02:35 (twenty years ago)

anyone have any traktor vs. ableton comments? i use traktor exclusively and i really like it and find it performs well, but i am considering moving to ableton for all of the extras particularly the extensive looping and editing features. i don't to lose the ability to plainly mix two tracks together though and it sounds like ableton functions more like a sequencer than a mixer/turntable hybrid.

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Thursday, 23 February 2006 04:05 (twenty years ago)

i don't want to lose...

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Thursday, 23 February 2006 04:06 (twenty years ago)

Between the two I would definitely go with Live 5. Once you get the warping down, you'll find that it's a lot more versatile, especially if you have an external soundcard where you can cue tracks just to make sure. Even if Traktor did add a few effects in version 3, Ableton is still a lot more flexible and fun. Unfortunately I'm back to Traktor now, because of the problem mentioned above.

x-post, obv.

― Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 23 February 2006 04:23 (twenty years ago)

thanks! i think i need to do more research. it seems like it would be a lot of fun though.

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Thursday, 23 February 2006 04:38 (twenty years ago)

DO IT!! You won't go back.

― Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 23 February 2006 04:43 (twenty years ago)

Am just about to purchase a powerbook and Ableton 5 for playing out with - can anyone recommend a good external soundcard that I should invest in?

― simon.thisisnotanexit, Thursday, 23 February 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

check m-audio

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 February 2006 16:41 (twenty years ago)

also edirol

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:20 (twenty years ago)

this program is re-donk-ulously fun. still feeling a bit overwhemled by all the features. traktor definitely has the edge for instant mix gratification but ableton can do so much more than looping and layering.

― harshaw (jube), Thursday, 23 February 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...

anyone using fxpansion as a vst inside ableton? if i use multiple engines on multiple tracks, the clips continue to play even after they have *stopped*, as though no 'note off' information is being received. the forums seem to suggest somehow 'dragging' the pattern from the engine directly into the clip?

― -- (688), Monday, 20 November 2006 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

fxpansion guru, that is

― -- (688), Monday, 20 November 2006 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

If anyone is looking for a good midi controller for ableton I recommend the BCF2000. Built solid, easy to setup and configure, lots and lots of knobs and buttons. Or if you have $2000 get an Xone 3d I guess.

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Monday, 20 November 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

the BCR2000 looks more fun

― -- (688), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I like the flying faders on the BCF, though, just cause it's a bit gimmicky. Stay away from the B-Control though, it's completely bawls.

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, you can drag the pattern midi info from GURU into a clip in Live. Just click and hold on the button that the pattern you want is assigned to in the guru gui, then drag it onto a clip in the Live window. Guru is really great, but uses too much CPU.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

Then make sure that back in the guru gui you have an empty slot with no pattern in it highlighted/selected.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

that totally works, thanks! thats a lot better

― -- (688), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

BCR2000 vs Faderfox vs ...?

― -- (688), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://futuremusic.com/blog/?p=133

― -- (688), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

vaporware ableton controllers are the new gizmondo

― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

there's plenty of similar midi stuff like that out now

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

which ones do you like?

― -- (688), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

ask dan selzer

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

which ones do you like, dan selzer?

― -- (688), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

lol I am such a douche for not figuring this out myself like a year ago already

http://sonictransfer.com/ableton-live-mixing-utility-plugin.shtml

― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 07:32 (eighteen years ago)

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