― snowballing (snowballing), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:23 (twenty years ago)
― ouh, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:28 (twenty years ago)
― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:30 (twenty years ago)
― jernas, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:31 (twenty years ago)
― french trolly, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:37 (twenty years ago)
― snowballing (snowballing), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:38 (twenty years ago)
I will only post this one track. And I dont think it would be a good idea to YSI the whole album, this isnt a torrent site.
― snowballing (snowballing), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:44 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:49 (twenty years ago)
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:52 (twenty years ago)
― snowballing (snowballing), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:53 (twenty years ago)
― snowballing (snowballing), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:55 (twenty years ago)
― french trolly, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 13:59 (twenty years ago)
But you know, if I've learned anything from being a fan of this band, there really is no such thing as a "final version" to them.
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:01 (twenty years ago)
Such a Robert Pollard title.
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 14:04 (twenty years ago)
― i always wondered where my mandibula was! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 15:20 (twenty years ago)
Do I need another CD?
Moral: Never undersell yourself.
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 15:37 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:54 (twenty years ago)
The sequencing seems similar in form to that of the new Belle & Sebastian album.
― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)
― road runner goes to to beach, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)
yep, its a return to 'form'
― hjkjkh, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:04 (twenty years ago)
Matthew C Perpetua in loving Fiery Furnaces shockah!
I'm not supercharmed by either of these songs, on first listen. But will defer judgment, obv. Album is veeeery slowly downloading. I find it surprising that I would favour progweirdo Furnaces over popweirdo Furnaces, but whatev.
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It's my fave FF LP.
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:05 (twenty years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:09 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:10 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:11 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, Malkmus is not very interesting to me. Even the Pavement i love isn't the norm (Brighten the Corners, "Carrot Rope", "Secret Life of Back Roads"). I have a complicated theory linking it to my ambivalence toward electric guitar antics, but it's probably more related to my weird relationship with song lyrics.
Dan, however (of StG), is a massive Pavement/Malkmus fan, and also big-big-big into the Furnaces. So yeah, there does seem to be a "kind of thing" going on. (Interestingly, Dan's other pet bands are things you don't seem to have much time for [Modest Mouse, Wolf Parade, Arcade Fire]; but despite how that might look, he's not at all the conventional indie-rock listener.)
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:13 (twenty years ago)
I think Modest Mouse, Wolf Parade, and Arcade Fire are more of a macho, angst-ridden version of this sort of thing, maybe.
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:19 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)
But after the first couple of listens, it's listenable at the very least... so much better than Rehearsing
― Quinn (quinn), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:29 (twenty years ago)
I don't think Wolf Parade or Arcade Fire are like most Pavement or Furnaces stuff at ALL. I just brought it up to articulate that your personal taste isn't necessarily going to be sensible - it's not as easy as breaking it down into pieces and saying "oh you don't like whimsical keyboards and [a given] sense of humour, and that's why our tastes are different".
― sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:31 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:39 (twenty years ago)
see, i dont hear this. pavement packs, for me, a MUCH larger (that is to say, existent) emotional punch than FF. pavement melodies to me are wistful, unpredictable, and above all, memorable, where FF songs just seem to clunk along in time-worn chord/melody combinations. whimsy, while certainly not absent to my ears in pavement songs, definitely just complements rather than dominates the proceedings IMHO. anyways, i just HATE the FF so i am going to get off of this thread now; it is not my goal to pour hatorade on the proceedings here ...
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matt likes to do that 'ironic shredding' thing that SS was doing ten years ago
― jklvxc, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:39 (twenty years ago)
yep, i like it lots and i think it's stood up well to repeated listening -- if anything, the repeated listening made me appreciate it more.
as far as i can tell, the people who "hate" this album are myopic pitchfork types who only like it when their bands sound like INDIE RAWK.
― i always wondered where my mandibula was! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:27 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:35 (twenty years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:54 (twenty years ago)
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:05 (twenty years ago)
I find the Furnaces to be an exceptionally warm band, even if there persona can be a little cold. But you know, Malkmus is exactly the same way.
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)
― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:17 (twenty years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:18 (twenty years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)
― i always wondered where my mandibula was! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)
― i always wondered where my mandibula was! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:21 (twenty years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:40 (twenty years ago)
There's a new Fiery Furnaces LPSo wake up ILM!There's so many things for us to doBut I can't sleep with you there by my side
Wake up, it's a beautiful morningAnd also there's a new Fiery Furnaces LPWake up, it's so beautifulFor what could be the very last time
It's early so take your time,Don't let me rush you pleaseI know I was up all night, I can do anything,Anything, anything
But you can't blame meNot for the death of summerNo you can't blame meNot for the death of summerBut you're gonna say what you wanna sayYou have to put the death in everything
YSI?
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:42 (twenty years ago)
There's an untitled 15th track, too, but it sounds like it might be Benton Harbor Blues Again, but there's a different song labeled as that.
― duae, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 22:28 (twenty years ago)
― billy burch (pomalift), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 22:36 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:35 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:40 (twenty years ago)
I kinda see why they wanted this to be part of a two-disc set with Rehearsing My Choir - they certainly work as companion pieces, and you can see a lot of crossover in the musical ideas between the two albums.
There's clearly a problem with the tracklisting - 15 is obviously "Benton Harbor Blues," and 14 seems to be a reprise of "Nevers." I really fell in love with "Benton Harbor Blues Again" on the commute home today. What a beautiful song!
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 23 February 2006 00:37 (twenty years ago)
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 17 April 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)
― the enduring pueblo (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 17 April 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)
LOve, lovE, love thier new stuff and will buy it this week.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 07:47 (nineteen years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 21 April 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000EQ5Q86.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_V57015745_.jpg http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMiYV_UhELBcBKDKjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=124j5tkl3/EXP=1145720469/**http%3a//www.imageexchange.com/shop/media/4033.jpg
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 21 April 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 21 April 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)
― stockholm cindy: comedy vigilante (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 April 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)
Graphic design from the early 1960s by K. Awazu presenting the Metabolist concept of change in housing. High-rise mega-structures support myriad apartment capsules which are modified and replaced according to their own life cycles and the social cycles of demand and fashion.
― stockholm cindy: comedy vigilante (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 April 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)
― stockholm cindy: comedy vigilante (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 April 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)
Actually, I'm fairly certain that none of their albums have been released on vinyl.
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 21 April 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)
― wireless, Friday, 21 April 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)
Hearing "Benton Harbor Blues" for the first time, the keyboard groove starts up, and I think, "Oh! I really hope this'll be a simple pop song built on that groove, sounds great!" -- but then it drops out, replaced by squelching and whatnot, and my heart sinks a little -- "nuts, it was just a little section, whatta tease" -- but then it starts up again, and it IS a simple pop song built on that groove, and it's GREAT!!
(I like that version, the first one, better than the straightforward reprise, because the way it's messed around sort of complicates the pleasure of the basic groove/melody, making it more satisfying, somehow, than when it's just played through without tension or complication.)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 28 April 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)
― not impressed, Friday, 28 April 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)
It reminds me of how I like the "dub" version of the Homosexuals' "Hearts in Exile" (as it was originally released?) better than the un-messed-around-with version. It's the same with many remixes that "improve" the original, I guess, though I can't think of any other examples right now. (I think the original song has to be simple enough that it's almost a little too boring without complication, and the messing-with-it makes the simple groove/tune/whatever more pleasurable by clouding it, or allowing it to be itself only intermittently.)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)
― jason. (jason.), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)
(The grandma album's hard to beat -- it has a particular appeal that most albums don't, and I think I'll be listening to it straight through, once a month or so, for a loooong time... but I'm really happy about the new one so far. They're such a unique band, at least compared to anyone else I'm familiar with... even though some songs "miss" for me, the grand total of what they're doing just impresses and pleases me so much. And I'm REALLY happy they're coming back here on tour so soon, because their live thang is the best!)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)
i see the backwards-vocals stuff as more part of the texture/fabric than just trying to be wacky and psychedelic.
― flea market economy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)
― flea market economy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)
It will never be my favorite (it's sort of impossible to imagine them beating Gallowsbird's Bark, especially in terms of my sentimentality), but I think it's really great. I was listening to a big chunk of it on the train home yesterday, and it was really working for me. "Borneo" suddenly made a lot more sense somehow. (Not because I was on a train, mind you.)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 28 April 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)
This is basically what clicked with me for "Borneo" yesterday. I think reading the lyrics helped a bit for that song too.
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 28 April 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)
― flea market economy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 28 April 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 28 April 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)
You really think so? I have to say I completely disagree. THERE IS NEVER A GOOD REASON TO USE A HARPSICHORD-LIKE SOUND. EVER. This is what annoys me most about the last two Furnaces records. Bitter Tea is decent, but I have a feeling I would love it much more were the tack-piano never discovered by Matthew Friedberger. A piano would sound x10 better in every instance, guaranteed.
― bill neil (inabillity), Friday, 28 April 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)
― bill neil (inabillity), Friday, 28 April 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)
― bill neil (inabillity), Friday, 28 April 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)
sorry, i disagree. it's one of my favorite instruments.
― flea market economy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 29 April 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)
― bill neil (inabillity), Saturday, 29 April 2006 00:07 (nineteen years ago)
― flea market economy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 29 April 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 29 April 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)
I love how it feels like this band is just hitting their stride, four-plus albums in, especially with the production... this album especially has such an exciting, "sky's the limit" feeling about whatever comes next.
(Minor points off for (accidentally?) transposing two of the digits in the Vietnamese Telephone Ministry's phone number, so people from the internets are calling the # on the album without bothering to check first, and bugging the people who live there.)
(Also for that fucking ginormously annoying tone toward the end of "Whistle Rhapsody.")
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)
Matthew Friedberger is one half of the brother and sister duo The Fiery Furnaces. After 3 years of work, he has completed his first solo release, a double album titled Winter Women / Holy Ghost Language School, which will be the first release on August 8, 2006 on the newly formed label 859 Recordings run by Keith Wood in upstate New York.
The first disc, Winter Women, clocking in at one hour, showcases Friedberger's strength as a songwriter, and features some of the most accessible pop songs he's ever written, including the infectious "Ruth versus Richard" and the 60s-tinged "Up the River." Women is intended to be a summer record, full of memorable, catchy and un-ironic pop songs.
The second disc, Holy Ghost Language School, is more experimental - a 46 minute sonic novel with the requisite backwards guitars and strange samples which makes Matts work so original. It veers closer to some of the Furnaces' more experimental outings, but it's not outright noise, the album as a whole is bound by a strange sense of structure. Some reference points for this record might be Faust, The Residents, or the most "out" moments of Brian Eno's solo records.
Matt wrote and arranged all the music, played all the instruments (except for some drumming from John McEntire from Tortoise on a few tracks), and sings all the songs. The record was co-produced by Bill Skibbe at Key Club Recording at Benton Harbor, Michigan in March of this year.
The Fiery Furnaces launch their European tour this Thursday in Manchester and will wrap it up with an appearance at All Tomorrow's Parties on May 20th. In June they'll be touring the US with a focus on the West Coast and Midwest.
Winter Women track listing:
1. Under The Hood At The Paradise Garage.
2. The Pennsylvania Rock Oil Co. Resignation Letter.
3. Up The River.
4. Ruth versus Richard.
5. Her Chinese Typewriter.
6. Big Bill Crib & His Ladies Of The Desert.
7. Dont You Remember?
8. Betcha Dont.
9. PS.213 Mini School.
10. Theme From Never Going Home Again.
11. Motorman.
12. Quick As Cupid.
13. I Love You Cedric.
14. Servant In Distress.
15. Hialeah.
16. Wisconsin River Blues.
Holy Ghost Language School track listing:
1. Seventh Loop Highway.
2. Holy Ghost Language School.
3. The Cross And The Switchblade.
4. I Started Drinking Alcohol At The Age Of Eleven.
5. Do You Like Blondes?
6. Azusa St.
7. Topeka and San Antonio.
8. A Mystical Preparative To Lewdness.
9. Ship Scrap Beach Business.
10. First Day Of School.
11. Things Were Going So Well.
12. All In Vain Or The Opposite.
13. Moral and Epilouge.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 1 May 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)
Not sure I see it that way. Who knows where the quality material will end up? Will Matt shortchange the FF songbook to boost his solo profile? What it says to me is that the guy is mad prolific, and that perhaps he should spend more time polishing and editing the stuff he has rather than putting things out in a rush job.
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)
that occurred to me before... it's an '80s dylan (that ticcy, clipped empire burlesque voice, which i love) rather than a '60s dylan!
Minor points off for (accidentally?) transposing two of the digits in the Vietnamese Telephone Ministry's phone number, so people from the internets are calling the # on the album without bothering to check first, and bugging the people who live there.)
loser that i am, i looked up all those churches, and they exist -- all of 'em are (like the VTM) in the los angeles area. interesting, because one of the professors in the program i'm starting did a photographic documentation project of ethnic houses of worship in los angeles, and this'd be a nice soundtrack.
i think it's great! it's far enough into the album that we might have drifted our attention away a bit, and it makes us come back in and go GAAHHH! they should use that kind of jarringness more (without making a cliche of it).
― jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)
I could have saved you the trouble. This guy has already done it:
http://www.goodhodgkins.com/?p=39
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)
― jason. (jason.), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)
i did it before he did, not that he'd know that.
― jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 1 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)
Best of all was the fast, pounding, HEAVY version of the "faster, hammers" song from "Rehearsing My Choir"...
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Saturday, 17 June 2006 05:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Saturday, 17 June 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)
also - what're their live sets like these days (apart from "loud, crunchy...)? '04 style cut-ups/medleys of the two most recent albums/the entire catalogue? fairly straight-ahead run-throughs?
― etc (esskay), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)
could someone please tell me that among their fiery furnaces following there is a robust, benevolent bootleg community that has samples from all varieties of fiery furnaces dating back to say blueberry boat? any info appreciated. thx.
― blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)