Natalie Imbruglia- Torn

TS: torn vs Kiss me

And she sang about lying naked on the floor. Personally, that's all I ever got out of it.

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I love "Torn" more now then when it came out.

for some reason i had "torn" going through my head this morning. i don't get why it was such a major hit, it's not really all that catchy or interesting, the only thing memorable about it at all is that weird line "cold and i am shamed, lying naked on the floor." what was THAT all about? anyway "kiss me" was way better.

"White Lilies Island" is probably the best pop female singer-songwriter album of the decade, too.

Torn
Pigeons & Crumbs
Smoke
Leave Me Alone
Wrong Impression
Everything Goes
Do You Love?
Talk In Tongues
Starting Today
Sanctuary

No, just savage indifference. I think I've only heard it twice.

Kiss Me, certainly. And the other Sixpence single.

"Lovefool," "Torn," "Stay" and "Building A Mystery" are always just bubbling right underneath the surface of my brain. Girl-pop/Lilith Rock was the non-hip hop savior of the late '90s.

ilm has so many retards on it! don't you people have enough porn?

'torn' is a geat song, really fantastic, but nothing else in the imbroolyooly canon is even listenable. can't think of many gulfs in quality so massive between an artist's best song and her other songs.

I like the song "Wrong Impression" lots. I just wanted to state that for the record.

But apart from that, if I like that one, are there other NI songs that I should seek out?

eww lex may b right. that kt just makes me shiver

THREE WAY:

torn vs. kiss me vs. stay (by lisa loeb)

STAY

Jose Gonzales' version of The Knife's Heartbeats

"Tainted Love," "Girls Just Want to Have Fun," "I Love Rock 'n Roll" and "Manic Monday" were all covers

so was Come on Feel the Noise

Cum On Feel The Noize is obviously not a cover, given the very characteristic Slade spelling of the title. And Manic Monday was not a cover, having never been released before Prince gave it to the Bangles.

Hang With Me is the same situation as Torn, except less so. Ahlund wrote most of the songs on the three Body Talk EPs, with and without Robyn, and rewrote his original for her version.

cum on feel the noize was covered by quiet riot.

yeeeeah nobody outside of the U.S. thinks of their version as being the real version.

They covered a song by the obscure group, Slade, who had had their fourth No. 1 with the song in the historically insignificant UK singles chart.

Huh, it was Slade's worst charting US single at 98. The best being "Gudbuy T'Jane" which topped out at 68. I always get these guys mixed up with The Sweet.

I always thought that "Run Runaway" was covered by someone in the '80s, but then I realized that was actually Slade, in the '80s.

"Gloria" getting covered by Laura Branigan might fit this mold. Same with her version of "Self Control."

He's not obscure, but I find it fascinating that not one, not two, but three totally different 80s acts had huge hits covering Tommy James.

I imagine Buck Owens might have been pretty obscure to a Beatles fan.

https://youtu.be/eQ5OtnBdcWw

""Gloria" getting covered by Laura Branigan might fit this mold." had no idea that was a cover.

"yeeeeah nobody outside of the U.S. thinks of their version as being the real version." that is probably true, but I can tell you when this was a huge hit and I was in middle school in the US, no one here knew it was a cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D7wXD1XeQs

Made very famous three years later by The Lemonheads.

Basically Laura Branigan's entire legend was made off italodisco covers.

Opus III, "It's a Fine Day" had a big hit with this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vgcYBwyw28

... which was written by Edward Barton ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf0YCvsXxZc

Girls Just Wanna Have Fun is the revelation for me.

Had no idea about Into Your Arms.

one morning Nic from Love Positions suggested to Robyn, the other half of the duo, that she write a few new songs as they'd recorded more of his for the project than hers. By the time he'd gotten home from work that day, she had written a) Into Your Arms and b) Don't Slow Down, which went to number 1 in Australia when covered* in 1991

*and lightly rewritten

had no idea about Cum On Feel the Noize ... or Into Your Arms

I only found out a year or two ago about Istanbul (not Constantinople), it seems such a perfect TMBG type of song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcze7EGorOk

Quiet Riot didn't stop at "Noize." "Mama Weer All Crazee Now" was covered on the very next album.

I remember listening to Flood when it came out in 1990 and my dad told me Istanbul was a really old song.

I believed him, but since there was no youtube or spotify, I had to take his word for it.

Does this count?

https://youtu.be/emy5mA8Ixtc

It counts. I can't remember when I learned about The Nerves, but it was way after I knew Blondie's (superior) version.

possibly another for cyndi: i'd say the original is well-known, and always has been, among people who read a lot of music writing, but among regular folks i'd guess that relatively few know that "money changes everything" was a cover

Wikipedia says that the guy who originally wrote "Girls Just Want to Have Fun" only recorded it as a demo which was never released, so I'm not sure if Lauper's version counts as a cover?

loving this comment from Youtube of Robert Hazard's "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun":

http://i.imgur.com/c4OBKPs.png

One of my favorite instances of this is a song that was written for a short-lived CBS series about a band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dec_vnZkQE

Oh wait, I was wrong! i-Ten recorded it a year before it was dumped on John Stamos and four years before Heart got to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbIFteUlv7E

(I realize Steinberg/Kelly wrote a lot of hits for other artists in the 80s, but they only recorded a handful themselves.)

the obscure group, Slade, who had had their fourth No. 1

cool argument

i feel like this whole story is a microcosm of why we as a society are doomed to ahistorical fumbling until things get sorted the fuck out

I feel like the more "shocking" examples here are the ones where the song seems to somehow embody the artist and / or be in a personal or confessional mode, especially if said artist has cultivated this idea. Torn is the best example of this, it was treated essentially as a page from Natalie Imbruglia's diary, and it's almost a note for note recreation.

The Quiet Riot VS Slade issue is just a lack of understanding of quite how big a cultural thing the top 40 / top of the pops / glam rock heyday thing of the early 70s is in the UK. Finding out about Quiet Riot making it big in the states as a third rate Slade tribute act is a bit like Americans finding out about Cilla Black's similar thing with Dionne Warwick, it just doesn't seem fair.

it didn't hurt that Kevin Dubrow basically sounded like Noddy Holder a bit

The other Australian version of this is Daryl Braithwaite's "Horses" - practically a second national anthem, while Richie Lee Jones' original is basically unheard of.

oh wait I just thought of the exemplar: WAITING FOR TONIGHT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8PQAqbtTiE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emy5mA8Ixtc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqvWBL2M-p0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd0aNVDOo3U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=364qY0Oz-xs

whoa @ "The Power", I had no idea

To be fair the Chill Rob G / Snap! thing isn't really about it being a cover version, just that they couldn't clear the rap and put another one on there instead

The other Australian version of this is Daryl Braithwaite's "Horses" - practicall Holly Valance's "Kiss Kiss"

From wikipedia

The first version of "The Power" was an amalgam of many samples. The beats were taken from Mantronix's "King Of The Beats Lesson #1" (from their 1990 album "This Should Move Ya"), the vocals were taken from "Let The Words Flow" by rapper Chill Rob G and from "Love's Gonna Get You" by Jocelyn Brown. The record became instantly popular in both Europe and North America. However, all of the samples used were unauthorized. In Germany, Arista Records had a deal with Stu Fine, former owner of Wild Pitch Records, but Arista did not have the same type of deal for a legal US release. Chill Rob G consented to a US release (which he thought could be lucrative) and consequently Arista Records was pressured to prepare the song for release in the US. Because it was not legally possible for Arista to simply reissue the European single, it was decided to re-record the entire track with new lyrics by rapper Durron Butler AKA Turbo B. and additional vocals by Penny Ford. The samples were then all legally cleared and the song was finally re-released under the new name Snap!, despite the fact that Jocelyn Brown had commenced legal action because of the unauthorized sampling of her vocals.

Had no idea what the story was with the Curtis & Maldoon credit on Madonna's "Ray Of Light" until I heard this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ5OtnBdcWw

Oh yeah "Kiss Kiss"!!!

wow that Ray of Light thing is cool!

comment section is absolutely dreadful though :'(