Taking Sides: Pansoul vs. Homework

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Both French, both House, both about the same age. One had vocoders and made it big, the other had the funk and is largely forgotten today. Choose wisely.

― oo, Monday, 27 February 2006 04:05 (twenty years ago)

Pansoul - I was into both these albums at the time, but the Motorbass one is probably a more obvious influence on my taste in house music today. Though Homework did have the funk as well.

― Bn1 (Bn1), Monday, 27 February 2006 05:25 (twenty years ago)

Homework for in the club, Pansoul for home listening.

― Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 27 February 2006 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Homework for in the club, Pansoul for home listening.

Exactly. Mind you, I never once heard Motorbass in a club. I think Flying Fingers-Les Ondes would have worked well.

― Tehrannosaurus HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 27 February 2006 10:31 (twenty years ago)

I heard "neptune" in a club once. cos i played it.

― Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 27 February 2006 10:39 (twenty years ago)

There's no place like home

― blunt (blunt), Monday, 27 February 2006 11:02 (twenty years ago)

how much of a critical / commercial success was Pansoul at the time? i dont remember reading anything about it, whereas Daft Punk were hailed as the saviours of dance music across the board (not to mention the omnipresent Jonze/Gondry/Coppola videos)

― Yawn (Wintermute), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

"Saviours"? I didn't know anyone who was into techno before 1996 who liked them. To me, Daft Punk helped fuel the media-stoked electronica craze -- "look, they have videos! And actual faces! (that we never see) But still, faces!" -- and were just another pop act, albeit a funky one that would also get played sometimes at the alternative and britpop clubs.

I don't remember reading anything about Motorbass either.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Pansoul is largely forgotten? Isn't it he most basic touchpoint on the origins of microhouse?

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

pansoul got 5/5 album of the month in mixmag and muzik

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:57 (twenty years ago)

i listen to pansoul way more than homework these days. this is not the way i felt in 1997.

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:58 (twenty years ago)

lets not forget the phono and ferox labels

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:01 (twenty years ago)

pansoul got 5/5 album of the month in mixmag and muzik

I'm not sure why I don't remember this.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:03 (twenty years ago)

I definitely lisen to Pansoul more regularly but I think I would be more upset if Homework was wiped from existence.

There is maybe a danger of the Pansoul --> microhouse connection being overstated - it's more that it feels woozy and mysterious in a way that is similar to a lot of German house (the most striking reference point to me is Michael Mayer's "Pensum", especially the A2 track)... but that woozy mysteriousness leads just as easily to Theo Parrish etc.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 20:46 (twenty years ago)

origin of microhouse = techno producers w/ basic channel collections digging on international anglophone deep house circa 1998

here is a list of important labels / influences

phono, paper, DiY, pagan, DNH + nick holder, noid, man called adam, west coast house, swag, glasgow underground, classic, cajual, moods + grooves, peacefrog, versatile, dessous, svek, f-com ...

all probably equally important as pansoul

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:43 (twenty years ago)

but pansoul just MIGHT be the best french house / 4 am house album EVER, including "around the house", "rhythmogenesis", "present lover", etc

it's the only one that's got that french "cafe-staring-contest-w/-a-cigarette" nihilism

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:45 (twenty years ago)

"origin of microhouse = techno producers w/ basic channel collections digging on international anglophone deep house circa 1998"

Ha ha this reminds me of the Neuhouse mix from '98 I have...

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 2 March 2006 11:43 (twenty years ago)

pansoul.

but i may never have heard homework.

should i?

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 2 March 2006 11:54 (twenty years ago)

"but pansoul just MIGHT be the best french house / 4 am house album EVER, including "around the house", "rhythmogenesis", "present lover", etc"

Vahid do you even like any of the other albums you listed???

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 2 March 2006 11:59 (twenty years ago)

You can also hear a big Motorbass influence on Deep Dish in the years following I reckon - listen to the second half of "The Future of the Future" or the track immediately after it on their first album.

Then again the original version of "The Future..." came out in late '96 (maybe the first propah dance single I ever bought! solely on Muzik magazine's hyping) so perhaps they were doing this sorta thing in tandem? I lost my single a while back so I can't go back and verify if the original "Stay Gold" was as Motorbassy as the eventual album version.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

i did get the 'Stay Gold' 12" when it came out and it didn't really seem to change when it become TFOTF so i'm not sure if the Motorbass influence was direct or not.

the Faze Action dub of D*Note's 'Waiting Hopefully' has a nice harp thing similar to that on 'Ezio'.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:50 (twenty years ago)

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