hawthorne heights take aim at ne-yo with disgustingly opportunistic, vaguely racist email blast

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this is from a victory press release that went out earlier this week:

With tomorrow’s release of their sophomore album, If Only You Were Lonely, Hawthorne Heights has sent a heartfelt call to arms to their loyal supporters. The band is asking them to help drive their new album on independent Victory Records to the top of the charts. This inspiring message was sent to hundreds of thousands of Hawthorne Heights’ supporters today, reminding them of their power in the marketplace and importance to the band’s success:

Tomorrow, our second album, “If Only You Were Lonely” will be in stores. We are reaching out to you because Hawthorne Heights can use your help. We need you, your friends and anyone else you know that likes ROCK music to buy our album tomorrow. The only reason we are able to be a band is because of your support. Without you we would not be able to do what we do.

You buying our album tomorrow has much greater meaning than simply supporting Hawthorne Heights. ROCK music needs your support. Our society and culture has put rock music on the backburner. If our album can debut at #1 all of us will have taken ROCK music back to the top of the charts where it belongs. You might ask, how has ROCK been put on the backburner? A current example is an artist that we are up against called Ne-Yo. Many people are saying that Ne-Yo is going to outsell us because Ne-Yo has had a tremendous amount of over the top, mainstream media coverage. His album will be in stores tomorrow. Radio has played his single 160,000 times. Our single has been played 3,800 times. We know that does not seem possible but it is the truth. Ne-Yo is on a major label. Hawthorne Heights is on an independent label. ROCK music needs to win tomorrow. Independent needs to beat Major tomorrow. If all of you take action we can create history. The mainstream media may not choose to fully embrace this ROCK band from Dayton, Ohio but all of you have. No one can take that away from us. It cannot be bought because it comes from the heart. That is what makes us different. Your support means everything to us and is the most valuable thing that we have. You are the people that we depend on. This is as much about you as it is about us. You hear our voices every night. Now, we need to hear yours. You see us at our merch table every night. We need to see you in the stores tomorrow. We cannot come out on top without you. Passion and music with real meaning has a chance to beat out what the media forces down our throats. No one expects us to win. We need to prove them wrong. They underestimate us. Please help us create history tomorrow. This is a ‘call to arms’, a ‘battle cry’, not just for Hawthorne Heights but for all of the other great ROCK bands and independent labels that we all love. All of us deserve this and it is something that we can do together.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:23 (twenty years ago)

How is this racist? Is Ne Yo a different race to the people in Hawthorne Heights?

― Mike W (caek), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:30 (twenty years ago)

this ROCK band from Dayton, Ohio

― Dan (Explains So Much) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:30 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was RAWK, not ROCK?

― ratty, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:31 (twenty years ago)

MySpace ROCK

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)

gross.

― gross, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)

Our society and culture has put rock music on the backburner.

Probably all for the better.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:33 (twenty years ago)

Our single has been played 3,800 times.

hang the DJ
hang the DJ
hang the DJ

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:34 (twenty years ago)

Without you we would not be able to do what we do.

Jerk off in dingy basements?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:35 (twenty years ago)

How's the white guilt going for you, Mark?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:35 (twenty years ago)

Who the hell are these people? I have never heard of any of them.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:35 (twenty years ago)

If all of you take action we can create history.

I have doubts.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:37 (twenty years ago)

apparently this is their fave tactic

"We have a mission for you guys ... bring rock back to MTV! We were #9 the last two days on TRL ... Hawthorne Heights is performing on Fuse's 7th Ave Drop! Help bring rock back to ... "

yada yada

"The Corporate Man" must really be fucking them over if they are only at #9 on TRL.

― Renard (Renard), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure about "racist", but nothing so instantly puts me off as when a band starts slagging off other artists & genres in an attempt to make themselves seem more "passionate" or "real".

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I honestly can't see how they're "slagging off" Ne-Yo. He's been played more times on the radio, he's signed to a "major" label (although Hawthorne H must be on an puppet label, or a pseudo-indie like Domino, right?). It's just what music thrives on now from G-Unit through to fucking Nizlopi, which is setting up something that you're in "opposition" to, and asking people to take sides.

Rough guess: Myspace users probably more likely to root for HH than Ne-Yo. They both fucking suck.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)

It cannot be bought because it comes from the heart. That is what makes us different.

SO UNIQUE.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)

No one expects us to win. We need to prove them wrong. They underestimate us.

These guys will make great political consultants one day.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)

everyone knows that Ne-Yo is really Neil Young right?

― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:44 (twenty years ago)

what is the subtext of this?

Our society and culture has put rock music on the backburner. If our album can debut at #1 all of us will have taken ROCK music back to the top of the charts where it belongs. You might ask, how has ROCK been put on the backburner? A current example is an artist that we are up against called Ne-Yo. Many people are saying that Ne-Yo is going to outsell us because Ne-Yo has had a tremendous amount of over the top, mainstream media coverage. His album will be in stores tomorrow. Radio has played his single 160,000 times. Our single has been played 3,800 times. We know that does not seem possible but it is the truth. Ne-Yo is on a major label. Hawthorne Heights is on an independent label. ROCK music needs to win tomorrow.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:45 (twenty years ago)

For fuck's sake what kind of shit-addled "battle cry" to topple the Old Boss sounds like Blink 182 and buys serious amounts of ad-time on MTV2?

Chaki u bastard. :)

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:45 (twenty years ago)

what is the subtext of this?

Bad meth.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Seriously Mark, what is the context? Jews control the media, Jews like neo-soul R&B, HH are anti-semites? Help me out here.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:47 (twenty years ago)

Who the hell are these people? I have never heard of any of them.
-- Jordan (jordan...), February 28th, 2006.

Jordan, you are sooo lucky!!!

― righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:49 (twenty years ago)

have you ever been to HAwthorne!?!?!?

― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:50 (twenty years ago)

It's just what music thrives on now from G-Unit through to fucking Nizlopi, which is setting up something that you're in "opposition" to, and asking people to take sides.

Yes, and I'm fucking sick to death of it.

I'm really not interested in some indie rock dude or dudette talking about they think Elliot Smith is more uplifting than any dance track (that's an actual quote that I'm just pulling out here as an example) because they're afraid to admit that they're just as heavily marketed and promoted as whatever it is they're taking potshots at. It's the music business, for fuck's sake - just tell people "my CD is awesome, you should go buy it" and leave the imaginary battle lines between genres to the critics, who stand a better chance of actually knowing what they're talking about.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:51 (twenty years ago)

ot just for Hawthorne Heights but for all of the other great ROCK bands and independent labels that we all love. All of us deserve this and it is something that we can do together.

NOT IN MOMUS'S NAME!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:52 (twenty years ago)

So buying more of their album does what for ROCK, exactly? I mean, maybe it spreads their influence further by bumping them up a couple more TRL spots, but does that mean other ROCK bands get more attention? This is just some shitty comparative marketing and they chose a likely frontrunner with a recent release date to target. Making it into a rock versus whatever the hell else thing probably has little to do with race and more to do with... oh fuck, I'd say rockism, but there's no way I'm going to actually call these guys rock. Their target market undoubtedly sees taste as a battle, with albums sold as a scorecard.

I've heard the sort of radio station that plays this band, there's a reason they're on the wane...

― mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:54 (twenty years ago)

IM GOING TO BUY 123 ne-yO ALBUMS!

― chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:55 (twenty years ago)

Who the fuck actually complains that their single was only played 3,800 times on the radio! Every musician I know would kill for that kind of exposure!!!

― darin (darin), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 22:58 (twenty years ago)

that does not seem possible but it is the truth

― Renard (Renard), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:03 (twenty years ago)

I've always wondered why the dude in that band sounds like an emasculated cookie monster.

― righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:03 (twenty years ago)

I'll buy the Ne-Yo album now! i've never heard of the guy! thx HH!

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:04 (twenty years ago)

he sings the hook on that one track w/ Ghostface

Back Like That

― Renard (Renard), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:05 (twenty years ago)

They come off as ungrateful and desperate all at once.

― darin (darin), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:06 (twenty years ago)

In fairness I am getting really sick of hearing the Ne-Yo song on the radio. I've heard it on multiple stations simultaneously.

I like the idea that the only way for a rock album to sell more than an R&B album now is by appealing to a quasi-religious sentiment. Apparently rock just needs to be making better albums if it's a matter of faith.

― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:07 (twenty years ago)

Victory records must be rolling in some bucks these days. They book ad time for a couple of hours and show their videos on Fuse every weekend. They have come a long way, considering they started like a bazillion other labels putting out 7"s of hardcore/straightedge bands.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:09 (twenty years ago)

In fairness I am getting really sick of hearing the Ne-Yo song on the radio. I've heard it on multiple stations simultaneously.

So why can't you turn off the radio?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:11 (twenty years ago)

the face of ROCK:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/gypsyfrocksbedlam/hh.jpg

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:17 (twenty years ago)

(ROCK turns out to be indistinguishable from math club)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:17 (twenty years ago)

I guess I need to step my radio game up or something but I still like that Ne-Yo single. Has anyone heard the album? Is it good?

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:18 (twenty years ago)

hawthorne heights are really terrible and i like fall out boy

― ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:20 (twenty years ago)

victory is distro-ed by sony, probably a manufacturing/distribution deal of some sort. victory has never been cool in hipper hardcore punk circles and definitely tends toward the jocky meathead (and sometimes nationalistic, sexist, racist and definitely not diy) side of hardcore.

though i see the racist undertones ((white culture) rock v (black culture) r&b), who cares? stupid hardcore band releases stupid press release, seems like par for the course.

― Ben H (Ben H), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:21 (twenty years ago)

So why can't you turn off the radio?

Because I want to listen to the radio, but I do not want to hear a song I am kind of sick of (I liked it OK at first) on two stations at once.

― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:23 (twenty years ago)

I feel like one of those stations could be playing Chris Brown or Lil Wayne instead.

― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:23 (twenty years ago)

i was hanging out at a club once that had a victory package on the bill - this was before HH blew up - and the singer of one of the bands playing after their performance said something to the effect of, "so what did you think of HH?" and after the spattering of applause quickly died down, some kid yells "THEY WERE MODERATE."

― jonathon, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:32 (twenty years ago)

Eppy, you didn't get the joek ;-)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

And I'm so sick of love songs
So tired of tears
So done with wishing you were still here
Said I'm so sick of love songs so sad and slow
So why can't I turn off the radio?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

I'M OUTSIDE OF YOUR WINDOW WITH MY RADIO
I'M OUTSIDE OF YOUR WINDOW WITH MY RADIO
I'M OUTSIDE OF YOUR WINDOW WITH MY RADIO
I'M OUTSIDE OF YOUR WINDOW WITH MY RADIO
I'M OUTSIDE OF YOUR WINDOW WITH MY RADIO
I'M OUTSIDE OF YOUR WINDOW WITH MY RADIO
I'M OUTSIDE OF YOUR WINDOW WITH MY RADIO
I'M OUTSIDE OF YOUR WINDOW WITH MY RADIO

Dear emo,

I fucking get it. You like Say Anything. Here's my Blockbuster card. Rent something else.

Love,
Chris.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:40 (twenty years ago)

Why does black people never want to emo?

― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:44 (twenty years ago)

Is this the band with Jamie Walters?

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 23:58 (twenty years ago)

Skipping 155 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Honestly, who could give a damn?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 3 March 2006 01:49 (twenty years ago)

In a hot week for new albums in the top 10, R&B singer Ne-Yo's debut solo release flies straight to No. 1 on The Billboard 200. "In My Own Words" (Def Jam) sold 301,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan, more than 170,000 more than its closest competition.
...

At No. 3, rock quintet Hawthorne Heights enjoys its highest charting position ever on The Billboard 200. The band's Victory Records release "If Only You Were Lonely" moved 114,000 copies, which put it at No. 1 on Billboard's Top Independent Albums and Top Rock Albums charts.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:56 (twenty years ago)

"Hawthorne Hights commits seppuku, crying, 'We are failures who have disgraced the honorable tradition of independent rock!'"

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Thank god.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:00 (twenty years ago)

"Was I.R.S. independent? If so, Fine Young Cannibals' The Raw and the Cooked in 1989."

and The Go-Gos' Beauty & The Beat in '81

― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:10 (twenty years ago)

What was the #2 record for the week?

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:24 (twenty years ago)

high school musical - ost

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

whatever the fuck that is.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

EIN VOLK EIN KULTUR KEIN POP!

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:he63mpma9foo

― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:38 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

haha

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 2 April 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

"Was I.R.S. independent? If so, Fine Young Cannibals' The Raw and the Cooked in 1989."
and The Go-Gos' Beauty & The Beat in '81

IRS was alligned w/ and distributed by A&M throughout the 80s, so it was hardly an independent in the sense of RT SST or Homestead et al.

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 2 April 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

high school musical - ost

What was that?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 2 April 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

i've finally heard the ne-yo song, it's completely awesome!

i haven't heard hawthorne heights, i doubt very much that they're any good at all.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 3 April 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

VICTORY COULD BE YOURS: Victory Records is looking for a National Sales Director based in Chicago. The indie label, distributed by RED in the U.S. and Universal in Canada, will have two albums in next week's HITS Top 50, including Hawthorne Heights and Atreyu, set to bow in the Top 10 with around 80k in sales. That will make Victory the #1 Independent label in the country by market share, with 13 titles on the Independent chart. Send resume with references to our man in Chitown, Tony Brummel, at tony@victoryrecords.com. (3/29p)

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 3 April 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

im so goddamn sick of that ne-yo song id rather listen to hawthorne heights or whatever

― ++++, Monday, 3 April 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

I totally can't tell if people are joking when they say they're "so sick" of the ne-yo song.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

"black people are perfect creatures.white people are evil"-ILM

― RSTVTR, Monday, 3 April 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

finally someone gets it!

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 3 April 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

he's half right!

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

whoa and u call hawthorne height racist RSTVTR??... u fag... and how the crap was that racist... people these days.... but hawthorne heights rock and NE YO sucks and thats all they ment by that comment.... end of disscusion

― Ben T, Sunday, 9 April 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

You are a strange creature.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 9 April 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

"im so goddamn sick of that ne-yo song id rather listen to hawthorne heights or whatever"

No, trust me, you definitely aren't.

Download Ohio's For Lovers for some comic genius, however. If that song was satire, it'd be the funniest song ever. Unfortunately, it's sickeningly, 100% serious.

― Harrison Barr (Petar), Sunday, 9 April 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Download Ohio's For Lovers for some comic genius, however. If that song was satire, it'd be the funniest song ever. Unfortunately, it's sickeningly, 100% serious.

OTM. I think Hawthorne Heights are to emo what Trixter were to hair metal: the final sign that the water isn't warm anymore, your fingertips are pruny, and maybe it's time to get out of the bathtub and into some clean clothes.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 9 April 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

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hawthorne heights take aim at ne-yo with disgustingly opportunistic, vaguely racist email blast

"black people are perfect creatures.white people are evil"-ILM

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― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 10 April 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

That's as comprehensive an application for an IP ban as I've seen.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 10 April 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

Hawthorn Heights Angrily Depart Record Label.

WAY TO GO TONY!

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

WAY TO GO ME FOR FORGETTING THE E IN "HAWTHORNE"

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

one more time:

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

that whole link is just magical

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

but its the battered wife comment that really sends it over the moon

― PARTYMAN (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

glad to be of service, mr.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

"Many of you are familiar with the greed driven letters sent out by Mr. Brummel: his manifesto calling rock supporters to arms and virtual declaration of war on hip-hop and Ne-Yo done under the guise of a band message; as well as the street-team letter which instructed people to re-arrange our CDs, putting them in higher visibility areas in stores. Unfortunately, the head of street-team, Abby Valentine, who understandably resigned following the incident, took the fall for this. At the time of the letters we were branded as racists by some, all over a letter we did NOT write, targeting a genre which we have NOTHING against whatsoever. Because of these letters, our second album debuted at ..3 on the charts, an incredible feat, which would normally be cause for joy, but now is tainted much like Barry Bonds statistics."

wow.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://postfarm.net/uploads/wahhhmbulance.jpg

― maura (maura), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

is it cruel of me to wish that Victory Records was literally a faceless corporation, given the pic above?

― dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.theaquarian.com/050101/interviews-archive-read.php?aid=43

Tony Brummel
Owner, Victory Records
Jan. 26, 2005
By Adrian Gregory Glover

After speaking with Victory Records owner Tony Brummel, I can understand why the dude has gathered the reputation that he has in some circles. Why? Because he’s a pretty honest and direct guy.

That threatens most people in life and that causes them to take it back to the high school level and gossip, while back at the ranch his label is surging forward on the strength of Taking Back Sunday, Atreyu, Hawthorne Heights and more.

etc.

― dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

is it cruel of me to wish that Victory Records was literally a faceless corporation, given the pic above?

How dare you make fun of the lead singer of Bad Manners that way.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

we challenge Tony to sell over 1 million blank CDs

This made me smile.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

roffle @ "tainted much like Barry Bonds statistics"

― =[[ (eman), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

"We are all winners and we will continue to defeat the odds no matter what they say."

http://www.gocolumbiamo.com/ParksandRec/Images/Special_Olympics/so-logo.jpg

― =[[ (eman), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

we challenge Tony to sell over 1 million blank CDs

*lights bulb appears over Brummel's bald noggin*

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

apparently they're suing him too

― pinder (pinder), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

Band's latest release: Blank discs

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

So someone's finally ripped of "Trapped In The Closet"?

― The future of Rodney got a -- (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

hehe

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 31 July 2008 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

The band's third album is due to be released on August 5, 2008,[11] surprisingly through Victory Records again, after a lengthy legal battle between the two parties.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 July 2008 17:37 (seventeen years ago)

I thought about reviving this the other day because I finally listened to Because of You and Ne-Yo is the shit and his next album will no doubt be a total game-changer for the entire world, like Thriller meets 1999, and I was wondering if Hawthorne Heights still existed. And now I see that they do.

― dr. phil, Friday, 1 August 2008 03:17 (seventeen years ago)

Listen to this shit on MySpace-- this band goes gold?

http://www.myspace.com/hawthorneheights

― Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 1 August 2008 05:15 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qi1ZVk_TeU&feature=player_embedded

say it ain't so, Gil ;_;

― rmde cat and the dweebs (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 16 October 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

everyone knows that Ne-Yo is really Neil Young right?

lol

― rmde and dangerous (bernard snowy), Saturday, 16 October 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

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