THREE 6 MAFIA: OSCAR WINNERS

Terrible song, but best part of the Oscars, period.

ps That line isn't really worth posting on two different threads.

"Juicy J"

suburban teenagers have the worst taste on the planet

i played giles manius "we shootin 1st" in my apartment and he liked it!

I was on the verge of drawing out the "ignorant" and "racist" charges!

This just in: Giles secretly likes Three 6 Mafia, but almost certainly dislikes their fan base.

(Damn)

I'll keep my Birthday Party albums and my bad taste, thank you very much

Lil' Bow Wow's a pimp......and his fans are customers......all I'm saying

Rasheed loves and plays basketball, but when he steps on the court, he just can't keep his mouth shut and behave.

Hip Hop Tourette Syndrome = Giles

also, i doubt three 6 mafia would identify as "gangsta rap" ... they're more into their heritage as southerners and trying to present that in a way that is, in some ways, more complex than the "white liberal" presentation ... which is ... the south is racist ... everyone is stupid ... yadda, yadda, yadda ...

i'm sorry. rambling like this. i just get sick of people "laying it down" as to what rap is "all about" and how things do or don't fit in with their concept of "authenticity" as far as that goes.

who cares?

good for Three 6! it ain't like they were holding guns to the heads of the judges ... they were just given an award. that's great.

well I'm not sure how to measure this exactly but the sentiment seems a little fishy --- gangsta rap is black culture & not a simulacrum and as far as I can tell there are teenagers (on up) of all colors all over the place who are into it.

when the one dude thanked "George Clooney, my favorite man in show business"

Next you'll be telling me there are more white folks than black folks in the United States.

And hey, if it gets more people turned onto Three Six and "Stay Fly," that's a very, very good thing.

Gangsters buy mansion from profits they make from crime. 50 Cent got his from rapping about how he used to sell drugs, not from actually selling drugs, so he's NOT a gangster, at least not anymore.

So, because David Bowie was not in fact a space alien, did that make him faux-glam?

BY THE WAY EVERYBODY!

Who saw Hardball today with Al Sharpton where they discussed this song? I was extremely offended by the entire conversation. Something about how people in this country relate to class really fucking pisses me off. Actually, everything about it.

Glam rock was about theatrics and style, not space aliens.

Who saw Hardball today with Al Sharpton where they discussed this song? I was extremely offended by the entire conversation. Something about how people in this country relate to class really fucking pisses me off. Actually, everything about it.

Didn't see that, but for all the sensitivity to race and sexuality issues, no one at the Academy Awards seemed to have a problem with the self-congratulatory nature of the most classist public spectacle in America.

only because punk was about aliens tho.

They listen, they emulate, they use the lingo, and when they get called out they throw around words like "ignorant" and "racist" like they have a clue about what those words really mean, but it's all a facade and Giles finds it hilarious.

There's nothing wrong with living in a nice, safe neighborhood and listening to gangsta rap, but don't try to front like you're some thug from the hood. You'll look like a fool.

There's nothing glamourous about dealers on your street corner or gangs in your neighborhood or some crackhead climbing through your window at 3am while you're sleeping. Trust me- I sure as fuck know more about that than you do.

Makes Run DMC look fresh.

Makes Italian gangsters look like slobs.

And if it wasn't for the fact that the members keep getting imprisoned, I'd totally agreed. Three Six has way more street cred at this stage than anyone else that's been mentioned in this thread, Stay Fly or not.

Besides, their music is awesome, as trees pointed out. Da Unbreakables Chopped And Screwed eats most of the mainstream darling Stooges/Hawkwind clones alive.

By Avis Thomas-Lester
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 7, 2006; B03

When Christine Smith heard the song "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp" announced as the Oscar winner for best original song on Sunday night's telecast, she almost fell off the sofa in her Arlington living room.

Deborah Veney Robinson of Silver Spring had pretty much the same reaction. So did Juaquin Jessup of Northwest Washington.

"It was just like during the time when all the blaxploitation films were coming out with African Americans being portrayed as pimps and hos and gangsters," said Jessup, 51.

"It was another example of how they pick the worst aspects of black life and reward that. There are more important things in our culture that need focus more than the hardships of a pimp," he said. "The only place many people see our culture is through movies and on television, and at the same time, this country is experiencing an influx of people coming over here from all over the world, and the only thing they see of black America through the media is . . . pimps and gangsters and all of that. It's always some low-down brother or some welfare mother."

Particularly offensive to Robinson, 36, was the performance by hip-hop group Three 6 Mafia, featuring men dressed as pimps and women in the hot pants and rabbit furs of streetwalkers. "I have no problem with movies and songs being gritty," she said, "but I have a problem with something that falls just short of a minstrel show."

In many parts of the Washington region yesterday, debate was raging about the motion picture academy's selection of the theme song from the pimp saga "Hustle & Flow," starring Terrence Howard, to win the Oscar.

The song -- written by Three 6 Mafia members Jordan Houston, Cedric Coleman and Paul Beauregard -- beat out songs from "Crash" and "Transamerica."

The subject was topic one on black radio. Radio host Tom Joyner, whose show is heard on WMMJ (102.3 FM), fielded calls from listeners who debated the merits of the song, in which a pimp named DJay laments his lack of success as he struggles to make it as a rapper.

On BET.com, a discussion was posted minutes after the Oscar was awarded. By yesterday, dozens of people had posted comments.

"This was an exceptional night at the Oscars for Three Six Mafia's Oscar win," wrote one. "I am soooo happy as well for them. Barriers have been broken, as well they should be. " Not everyone agreed. "While you are praising this 'great' accomplishment we are being laughed at, mocked with an I told you so grin on their faces. I'm not being negative, I'm being a realist," another wrote.

Retha Hill, vice president of content for BET.com -- whose audience is largely African American, college-educated and urban -- said her Web site began posting discussions soon after the song was nominated because her staff knew it would be controversial.

She said the Oscar selection and the song should be put in context. It was rapped in the film by the pimp as he struggled to make it as a hip-hop artist, she said. He was telling the story of how he hoped to rise above his circumstances and improve his lot -- a classic underdog story.

"In the context of the movie, the song makes perfect sense," Hill said. "But if you have not seen the movie or are just watching the performance on the Academy Awards as members of middle America and you hear someone talking about being a pimp, it is very difficult for you to understand."

Smith, 41, said the performance, along with an interview she had seen before the program, where members of the Three 6 Mafia members wore metallic "grills" on their teeth, were particularly disturbing. "It was like 10 steps back for us," she said. "White folks like that. It makes white Americans feel more comfortable with us when they don't have to think of us as their equals."

Several people interviewed said they found it ironic that the academy -- praised earlier in the evening by actor George Clooney for breaking down barriers for African Americans with an Oscar to Hattie McDaniel in 1939 for her role in "Gone With the Wind" -- would glorify the travails of a man who earns his living exploiting women.

Erika Scott, 17, a Largo High School eleventh-grader, said she was a little shocked. "Growing up where I live, you see, all the time, people who are wanna-be pimps and aspire to be pimps," she said. "Knowing that there is a song that tells the world about what goes on with people like that was surprising, and I was surprised that it won. It made me wonder what the world has come to."

Robinson, who along with two friends runs a blog, "What Do You Know," with a regular feature cheering on African Americans who achieve in nontraditional areas, said she, too, was concerned about the stereotypes.

"It was a struggle for us last night because we wanted to root for the blacks, but the blacks were pimps and hos on the Oscars, so it was confounding," she said. "Image is everything, and we have to be so careful about the way we position ourselves in front of larger audiences."

© 2006 The Washington Post Company

btw congrats to Juicy, DJ Paul, Crunchy, & Frayser Boy. I don't really care for this song in particular, but I am a fan of a 10+ year career of interesting music and straight up grindin'.

"File Oscar under history to hide from"

History was made Sunday night.

Not chest-puffing history like "Memphis' first black mayor" or maybe, "the state's first black U.S. senator."

This is history of the face-hiding, downcast-eyes sort, like "the dead voting in a tight state Senate race" or "a raft of politicians indicted by the FBI."

Sunday, Memphis' own Three 6 Mafia became the first rap group to perform at the Oscars. They went on to steal golden men for "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp," the first rap song by black artists to win in the original song category.

While many Memphians were probably jumping up and down on their sofas while Three 6 flashed metallic grills and demonstrated their inability to speak proper English in their acceptance ramble, I was mortified.

I had prayed that the Academy wouldn't dignify "Pimp," from the Memphis-filmed flick "Hustle & Flow," with a win, and if Three 6 did win, that they would keep their origins quiet.

It was not to be. As Three 6 performed behind hos on the stroll, a street sign on stage said "North Memphis." After thanking Jesus, but before the trio left with Oscars in hand, one got a "Memphis, Tennessee!" shout-out.

Within 10 minutes of Three 6's win, several people called me to gloat, including a childhood friend, Greg Spight, 33, of Collierville.

"This is the first time a rapper performed and won, and you gotta give them a lot of credit for that," Spight insisted. "Look at where they came from, selling mix tapes out the back of their trunk, then starting their own label, then winning an Oscar."

The win, he said, was "excellent" for the city.

I agree, if excellent means we'll finally confront the notion that Memphis really does stand for Makin' Easy Money Pimpin' Hos In Style. Thank "Hustle" actor Terrence Howard (who performed "Pimp" in the movie but not on the Oscars) for spreading the word of the city's embarrassing moniker in a recent interview.

Excellent if this creates a much-needed opportunity for parents to tell their children that Three 6's hustling career path is not to be emulated.

Excellent if girls listen to the lyrics and decide they will no longer bounce their behinds to songs that call them bitches or hos or encourage men to abuse them for financial gain.

Excellent if civil rights groups and others who claim to care about children get off their apathetic rear ends and, at the very least, publicly denounce the misogyny and violence in this music.

Excellent if churches that spent thousands of dollars on newspaper ads denouncing gay sex would be consistent enough to apply that same standard to all sex outside of marriage, including music like Three 6's, which encourages promiscuity.

Excellent if our elected officials figure out how to strike a balance between supporting local musicians and rejecting foul music with no redeeming value. (Fat chance of this, given that local politicos A C Wharton and D'Army Bailey were both at the movie's local premiere.)

If any of that happens, then Three 6's win Sunday night will be history of which the city could be proud.

Is Kid Rock is white American culture then?

On March 5, 2006, Three 6 Mafia made history as they became the first African-American hip-hop group to win an Academy Award for Best Song. They also became the first hip-hop artists to perform at the prestigious ceremony. Fast forward two months later and things just keep getting better for Three 6. Juicy J and DJ Paul were set to perform live at SmackDown.

As expected, Three 6 Mafia rocked the SmackDown fans into a frenzy with their WWE Wreckless Intent track, “Some Bodies Gonna Get It,” which they performed as The World’s Strongest Man made his way down to the ring for his match against Chris Benoit. Unfortunately for Benoit, he was the one who got it that night because Henry utterly destroyed The Rabid Wolverine, severely injuring him to the point of needing immediate medical attention.

While Benoit had an unfortunate evening, Juicy J and DJ Paul absolutely loved their live SmackDown experience. “This was big. This was history for us. We are so hyped right now,” the two gushed. They not only loved seeing the action of WWE live, but the crowd as well. “The fans’ reaction was crazy! We went out there as fans of the WWE itself and then there were all the WWE fans cheering for us, it was crazy, and the crowd was off the hook.”

Three 6 Mafia enjoyed themselves so much that they were practically begging for Mr. McMahon to give them a job with WWE. “This was serious man, this was real serious business, and we want a job with y’all. We’ll do anything, we just want to go out there and perform for the fans,” the two said.

Seeing the action live had all sorts of ideas running through their heads. Juicy J wanted to wrestle, as did DJ Paul. In fact, DJ Paul said if he were a WWE Superstar he would call himself the Grim Reaper, wear a hooded cloak and carry a sickle out to the ring with him. He even had a finishing move in mind; a clothesline that would take his opponents heads off. When asked what they thought the outcome would be if the Three 6 Mafia faced Mark Henry in a Handicap Match, the pair had mixed opinions. DJ Paul thought they would lose, while Juicy J seemed to think they would win because as soon as Henry started to win all the ladies in the arena would storm the ring and come to their aid.

Clearly, the two seemed to have different opinions on their proposed match, but both were in agreement that Henry was a bad man. “We saw Mark Henry right before we went out and he told us if we didn’t rock it he was going to hurt us. Luckily things went the way they did and he hurt Benoit instead.

Three 6 Mafia’s live performance at SmackDown was a big success for all involved. Mark Henry brutally assaulted Chris Benoit, and the Three 6 Mafia got to live a dream of theirs. “We’ve been huge fans since we were kids, since we’ve been pooping in our pants, and now here we are, backstage in the locker room hanging out with all these guys that we’re such huge fans of. This night was awesome man, we loved it,” Paul and Juice confessed.

Be sure to pick up a copy of WWE’s Wreckless Intent CD for Three 6 Mafia’s “Some Bodies Gonna Get It.

Literally? Cuz I would pay PPV $$$ to see that happen to that John Cena. I say if they'll let frickin' ICP wrestle they should damn well let Three 6 Mafia wrestle. Er, I guess.

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