i know that i've been seriously burnt a few times within the last couple months.
answer! if you dare ...
1. Matthew Dear - Technically great, but possibly driest sets ever. This has been the case three times. Saw him at WMC last year, doing a live performance, and it was great. As a DJ? Yawn.
2. Ellen Allien - I blame the Matthew Dear set for ruining my mood ahead of time, but I expected more. But ... even though I've seen people write her off as an Apparat production ... her albums always make me very happy. "Thrills" had some truly amazing moments, and "Berlinette" has won over even my friends who can't stand electronic music.
3. Tiga - WMC last year. I can't even remember one track, and Sexor sucks.
4. James Murphy - Donna Summer and Liquid Liquid. Not bad, but I was expecting more from the guy who claims, with some pretty serious credibility, that he got indie kids dancing to dance music. Although, I would maybe give Optimo or Trash more credit. Great producer, and I'm curious if he will reinvent DFA to keep it as relevant as it has been these past few years.
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)
"Thank you, ladies and gentlemen!"
Cameron, be more elaborate or less sarcastic please.
― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)
― dave k, Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)
― pher (pher), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)
The term Celebrity DJ makes me think of like, Keanu Reeves putting down the Dogstar axe to try his hand at the wheels of steel. Imagine the possibilities!
― pher (pher), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)
And yeah, these aren't celebrity dj's, these are dj/producers. For examples of many celebrity dj sets see http://www.misshapes.com/index2.php or http://www.dimmak.com/events/
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)
― midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)
― midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:24 (nineteen years ago)
james murphy did two of the radio mixes. the holiday mix (the one with only dfa tracks from 2005) was tim sweeny and tim goldsworthy.
― grady (grady), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)
- Well, you knew the two songs. Apparently, I don't have to spell it out for you. So, did I really have to be less sacrastic? And was I sarcastic? I thought I was being pretty straight forward, and since you guessed the two songs ... I guess I was.
Firstworldman: "He's perfectly capable of beatmatching, so what would you want him to do?"
- Read my original post: "not that they aren't technically able" ... so, yeah ... that answers that, I think. What do I want? Nothing specific. Not even talking shit. I gave him props ... just saying I wasn't impressed like I would have expected. Guessing a DJ set ahead of time isn't exactly exciting. So, I think your pushup idea is a bit misplaced. Those were just my thoughts, and it seems that only one person actually responded to my statement rather than critiquing it. But then again ... that's why I love ILM.
It was just a question. Re-read the original post if you are confused or think I was being an ass. Just saying ... I know I'm not the only one who has been bummed out by this. Just asking other people their experiences. If anything, it's a shot out to the great local DJs I've been spoiled by. CLICK HERE. I love all of the artists I listed ... THATS WHY I WAS BUMMED OUT. make sense?
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:39 (nineteen years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)
I guess it just seems weird to me to criticize a DJ so vaguely the way you are. I think Tiga's got great taste as a DJ, though sometimes I'm not so into his productions. As far as people playing the newer poppy techno/house stuff, he seems among the best.
I like Ellen Allien's 'My Parade' mix album, especially the more old school moments, don't know if that's what she plays like live or not. And Matthew Dear I agree about, there's just not enough variation there for me. He's hardly a celebrity though.
I guess my main issue with your post was the classification of these people as celebrities. It troubles my grocery check out lane US Weekly glancing brain.
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)
like i said, not hating ... just a comment. but i stand by what i said. those artists, that i enjoy, weren't as good as i had expected when i saw them. "when i saw them" ... the title of the thread is to get people to read it and comment, but obviously ... i can only speak for the nights i've seen people. not speaking to their overall importance in the grand scheme of things ... if there is such a thing.
is that such a terrible to say i wasn't impressed? this is the third time, or fourth, time i'm going to say this: i like these musicians.
geeta ... thanks for being a mediator. i do appreciate it, and it's nice for someone to actually read and repond to what i am saying rather than their own emotional outburts. that goes for everyone else that actually read, too.
i like these fucking artists! :)
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)
Tim Sweeney slayed the crowd, James Murphy was just ok, and Bam was downright boring.
world turned upside down!
lesson: can't judge any DJ on any one night out.
― midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 11 March 2006 04:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Saturday, 11 March 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Josefine Jinder (Josefine Jinder), Saturday, 11 March 2006 08:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Josefine Jinder (Josefine Jinder), Saturday, 11 March 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Jena (JenaP), Saturday, 11 March 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 11 March 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 11 March 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)
― electrogrouse (haitch), Saturday, 11 March 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)
― snowballing (snowballing), Saturday, 11 March 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)
looking at Mathew Dears new fabric compilation i can see he doesn't vary his sets enough.
i was dissapointed in Tom Middleton's (of Global Commincations) mixing ability when i saw him and he completley ruined his own track, 'Take me with you' with some horrible sounding male vocal. the instrumental would have been ok.
― micarl (micarl), Saturday, 11 March 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)
― micarl (micarl), Saturday, 11 March 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)
what on earth does jarvis cocker spin?
― electrogrouse (haitch), Saturday, 11 March 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)
"Miss You," "Push It," Strokes, Blondie, LCD Soundsystem, disco hits
keep in mind that a) it was 3 years ago and b) the theme of the party was "Pop Will Set Us Free" so it was all "hits," not much obscure
he definitely can't mix at all, half the time the records weren't cued up right
― Renard (Renard), Saturday, 11 March 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)
if i'm going to go see matthew dear, i'm expecting to hear a lot of "seamlessly mixed" minimal techno. do you really expect him to lay down some disco or r&b or something? he's still djing and he's not a celebrity. the fact that he did't live up to a certain expectation doesn't change this.
― grady (grady), Saturday, 11 March 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)
I think the definition of celebrity DJ is one who gets gigs due their being known as anything other then a DJ. Dance music producers kinda slip through the cracks because so many of them were solid DJs before anyway. Not all of them. There's plenty of dance music producers who didn't start DJing untill people started offering them good money for it, as dance music producers. But Murphy was djing dance music before he was producing it.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 11 March 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)
― tylero (tylero), Saturday, 11 March 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)
― firstworldman (firstworldman), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)
-- pher (praf...), Yesterday 5:59 PM. (pher)
someone already corrected the holiday versus radio mix uh... mix-up. but the Muzik mix was mixed by Tim Sweeney, not James. James did the Colette No5 mix however.
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 11 March 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)
sorry but that's just stupid.
minimal techno is great but you can't just follow up track after track without it really becoming stale. you don't have to play r'nb or disco for it to not become a bore.check this out Mathew Dear's Fabric although it's full of very solid minimal techno, he doesn't appear to really make it move. except maybe Ame - Rej.
having said that, i've give my left nut to see him come down to New Zealand and play
i agree, Sexor is arse
― micarl (micarl), Saturday, 11 March 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)
i totally see what you're saying though. i think (while not staying strictly minimal) this mix does what you're talking about.
but now we're just talking about what goes into a good mix/ set, which is probably another thread.
i guess i was just saying that if you're not crazy about minimal techno, do something else when matthew dear comes to town, that's all.
i still think this thread is mis-titled and should be called something like "Well Known DJ's Who Let Me Down."
I think Dan is on the money in defining what a Celebrity Dj is, and while i dont live in NYC so i cant attest to what a night there sounds like, that MisShapes night looks like a main culprit... this article is pretty hilarious, but helpful too. beware: it uses terms like "In the Electroclash era..."
― grady (grady), Sunday, 12 March 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Sunday, 12 March 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Sunday, 12 March 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)
also, i like the idea of letting the kids have their party. better to have all the douchebags congregate in one area and stay out of the general population for the night.
― gritty sanskrit (sanskrit), Sunday, 12 March 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)
That would be the Roachford vocal version from the CD single, right? More dodgy production than dodgy mixing...
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 12 March 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)
― micarl (micarl), Sunday, 12 March 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)
Just piling on the hate completely fairly here...
― fandango (fandango), Monday, 13 March 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)
As for Tiga I have to totally disagree, I find him actually one of the best populist djs out there today, I've never seen him play and had him not make the place completely explode. His sequencing is completely top-notch - he's one of those djs that can spot similarities between tracks that you never expect but once you hear it you can never hear one without expecting the other to follow...
― Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)
I've never seen Boy George DJ, what's that like?
― syntaxfree (syntaxfree), Monday, 13 March 2006 07:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 13 March 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)
That's one way of looking at it. Another is "He doesn't play by the rules."
― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)
Truly, Carlos D is a world weary heartbreaker who doesn't play by the rules.
― gritty sanskrit (sanskrit), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)
"Martin Gore, for one, learned to beatmatch and spends hours preparing his sets. "I work out everything to a fine point," he says. "I make a whole list of extensive notes."
I wonder what these notes might say......... not just notes... but extensive ones...
― Danny boy, Monday, 13 March 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0607,romano,72183,22.html
Less pertinent, less interesting:
http://www.laweekly.com/diggin-your-scene/12683/rawk-your-body/
― r3000, Monday, 13 March 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)
― grady (grady), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)
-- Mark (r-...)
DUDE U R TOTALLY CRUSHING ON HIM
― gritty sanskrit (sanskrit), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)
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― JW, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:29 (nineteen years ago)
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1269/quojapanesejesus2zu4.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7582/quojapanesejesusds1.jpg
to be fair my understanding is that he built din mak as a record label without any financial assistance from his father
― deej, Saturday, 19 May 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)
it was all thanx to JESUS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKVBESZ_kBg
― Display Name, Saturday, 19 May 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/20/fashion/djs-who-spin-the-family-name.html
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 20 September 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)
“A lot of people think D.J.’ing is easy, and a lot of people think D.J.’s are cool,” said Rob Principe, a founder of Scratch DJ Academy, a decade-old D.J. school with campuses in Los Angeles, New York and Miami. “So I can see how it would be appealing to pursue it as a profession if you don’t have to worry about income, like these kids.”
Being a D.J. also lets them set their own path to fame. “These children might be trying to avoid Frank Sinatra Jr. syndrome, that is, becoming a second-rate imitation of their parents,” said Dr. John Altman, a psychiatrist in Los Angeles who treats many children of celebrities. D.J.’ing, he added, “puts you in a powerful and protected position for that moment.”
― omar little, Friday, 21 September 2012 01:51 (thirteen years ago)
In July, he performed at American Eagle Outfitters’ store in Times Square, playing an eclectic mix that included Whitney Houston, Gotye and Coldplay, according to an article in People magazine devoted to his store appearance.
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)
jesus this whole article
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 21 September 2012 01:59 (thirteen years ago)