sorry, but i just found a copy on vinyl yesterday, on Industrial Records WITH the poster (yes!), and i'm excited.
lovers? haters?
make yourselves known!
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Monday, 13 March 2006 21:35 (twenty years ago)
― vartman (novaheat), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:13 (twenty years ago)
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:14 (twenty years ago)
I am jealous now.
Classic in many ways. Favorite track is "Still Walking".
― sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:15 (twenty years ago)
― Rombald, Monday, 13 March 2006 22:21 (twenty years ago)
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:24 (twenty years ago)
Agreed.
― sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:37 (twenty years ago)
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 05:32 (twenty years ago)
― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 05:43 (twenty years ago)
― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 11:43 (twenty years ago)
― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 11:48 (twenty years ago)
the single most frightening individuall i have ever heard of, August 24, 2005Reviewer: Colleen M. Mckeage "billyzoggs" (california the same state as this wacko) - See all my reviews(REAL NAME) ok first there is the music althought i dont much enjoy the overbearing satanic themes of some modern day industrial music i do enjoy synth stuff and electronic sounds such that the industrial genre has perfected industrial music is generally ok and the sound that comes from throbbing gristle is pretty but the single fact that genessis p-orridge is in the band is scary enough to force any person into a prolonged depression this guy is a freak just do a google search on his image u will agree he has implants come on if u are looking for an original musician who fueld single handedly spawned a musical genre look at ian curtis of joy division he single handedly spawned post punk and new wave witch further inspired fugazi whom inspired nirvana witch all music now a days seems to have come from but most notable interpol is also spawned directly from joy division further more ian curtis was said to be friends with genesis and even quated that he wished his band was more like genesis' but did he go start a cult or take a vial of blood from his scrotum and inject it in his arm NO!!! did he think magick was real NO!!! could he spell magic right i bet so furthur than that ian curtis is far more visionary and raw than orridge could ever be i know it is a completely different style of music but come on people this guy is freaky i would rather listen to brittany spears or even hip hop pop crap than some freak who starts cults and sigils and stuff what and worships sex sigils what he belongs in a mental hospital or a straight jacket i like wierd people they are interesting but this guy is a serius head case he is screwed up again i say look at his piture breast implant tatoos and a balloon attached to his nipple and shoved into a cut in his side to drain the life giving milk out of his bossom and back into his body they are fake breast u freaking psycho and y would u cut a gaping hole in your side come on people listen to music from someone u can respect not a crazy psychomaniac who believes cybersex is a holy undertaking he hung out with charles manson people and his cult was a death cult he needs help and if u can justify listening to anything made by a wierdo like this u need help too no matter how good or bad the music is bottom line this guy is scary and screwed up stick with modern day industrial there are plenty of good popular songs from the 70's era and seriusly look at joy division and what they spawnd all the way to interpol the best new band out there in my opinion
― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 11:52 (twenty years ago)
This is not a jazz cd, November 6, 2001 Reviewer: (...@...) from Manchester England This is a truly stunning cd but it is not a jazz cd it sits uneasily between punk(home made) and electro noise
― willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 12:06 (twenty years ago)
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 12:11 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 12:14 (twenty years ago)
― electrogrouse (haitch), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 12:16 (twenty years ago)
― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 12:17 (twenty years ago)
― electrogrouse (haitch), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 12:18 (twenty years ago)
i play this way more than all the others...
― Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:27 (twenty years ago)
― Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:42 (twenty years ago)
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:45 (twenty years ago)
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:11 (twenty years ago)
― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)
So, it's that good?
― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:25 (twenty years ago)
― Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)
― MAX BRODY, ULTIMATE ROADIE (ddb), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:30 (twenty years ago)
― gritty sanskrit (sanskrit), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)
― regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)
― regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:49 (twenty years ago)
A great idea. Hey Drew, why don't you take a crack at it?
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:56 (twenty years ago)
Which reminds me, does anyone know where one could get an uncensored version of the recording of Heathen Earth? Mine has an annoying floating box over whatever is showing on the TV screen. What are they showing?!
― Rombald, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)
that's true, but a pop album for TG is not exactly "Toxic" by Britney Spears. so, i'd say it's a pop album for a fucking insane band that has not much, if anything ... other than the fact that their influence has extended into that area, to do with pop.
Regular Roundups ...
Here's my short take on some of the reasons why this album matters so much, and how you might find a "key" ... generally considered part of the second wave of punk, Throbbing Gristle started as soundscapes/soundtracks for art installations. However, unlike Brian Eno, or many others, the purpose of this ambience was to disrupt the situation, to challenge the medium/presentation, and like the Futurists (sans Fascism, and perhaps directly against fascism) and other Modernist artists (probably obvious is Dadaism) they seemed to be celebrating (?) and destroying their influences all at once. If you want to get dorky ... think of Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari's ideas about the "Body Without Organs" ... a breakdown in production, in this case music and pop music, that creates an opportunity to revisit both the means of production and forces a new organization of them. So, a band like TG picks up on some of the disjunctions and inconsistencies in music, and go with that in a way that sort of reifies that structure, but completely changes it. That's why Genesis could be friends with, as mentioned earlier, Ian Curtis, and produce something so different. I mean, sure, Joy Division was a huge influence on industrial and goth music, but I would point to someone like TG first. You can hear some of the social and economic conflicts of that time in the music, and in the instrumentation itself ... factories laid nearly bare with neglect, waste management personnel on strike ... and therefore trash covering the streets, the disillusionment of a world where industry and mass production have begun to show us that they might not be the magic ticket to being as happy and fat as we were told.
I know this is all a bit wanky, but I think that at the root ... either you find something to appreciate in this album or not. Personally, I enjoy it for it's influence and for the instrumentation. But like most albums I have grown to love, it didn't strike me at first ... other than in a weird way. So, I kept revisiting it, to figure it out, and suddenly I realized that I had fallen madly and deeply in love with Genesis and crew.
I hope that this didn't just sound pseudo-wanky, but helps give an in to this FUCKING AWESOME (!) record.
(:
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:58 (twenty years ago)
There's gotta be someone out there who's weird enough -- or cool enough -- to greenlight this.
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:06 (twenty years ago)
― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:22 (twenty years ago)
'the space between' rules as does chris carter's 'mondo beat' lp.
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:25 (twenty years ago)
― dan (dan), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)
They'll yet speak up.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:30 (twenty years ago)
― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:32 (twenty years ago)
― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:35 (twenty years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:56 (twenty years ago)
The backlash is starting.
― Jeff K (jeff k), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 21:12 (twenty years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)
― regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 21:39 (twenty years ago)
― regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 02:39 (twenty years ago)
― Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 03:48 (twenty years ago)
― regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 04:06 (twenty years ago)
You're not trying hard enough.
― Jeff K (jeff k), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 04:17 (twenty years ago)
― electrogrouse (haitch), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 04:21 (twenty years ago)
xpost
― regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 04:23 (twenty years ago)
― Jeff K (jeff k), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)
― regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 04:32 (twenty years ago)
Classic. Somebody should write a book about this wonderful album!― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel)A great idea. Hey Drew, why don't you take a crack at it?― Sean Carruthers (SeanC)x-post -- No way, man, who'd accept his proposal?― Ned Raggett (Ned)There's gotta be someone out there who's weird enough -- or cool enough -- to greenlight this.― Sean Carruthers (SeanC)They'll yet speak up.― Ned Raggett (Ned)
A great idea. Hey Drew, why don't you take a crack at it?― Sean Carruthers (SeanC)
x-post -- No way, man, who'd accept his proposal?― Ned Raggett (Ned)
There's gotta be someone out there who's weird enough -- or cool enough -- to greenlight this.― Sean Carruthers (SeanC)
They'll yet speak up.― Ned Raggett (Ned)
LOL
― ilxor, Thursday, 22 January 2009 05:13 (seventeen years ago)
always loved this cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUnEWxN8LCM
― jed_, Thursday, 22 November 2012 02:57 (thirteen years ago)
No better time than now.
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Italo Night at Some Gay Club (Mount Cleaners), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:15 (thirteen years ago)