I Have To Start An Official ILM Celtic Frost - Monotheist Thread

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I just cannot get over how much I love this album. It's everything i could ever want from a record.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer To Mega Therion, myself.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know this was happening. In the interests of avoiding unnecessary hyperbole, I'm typing holy motherfucking shit in lower case.

Robocock (noodle vague), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

They are touring right now. Any idea what a Celtic Frost live show would be like in 2006?

Oh man, To Mega Therion is a sonic textbook in awesomeness.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

Alex, have you HEARD the new album???

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think one of my favorite vocal exclamations is Tom G. Warrior's

"HAYYYYYYYYYY"

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

I hope there's Wall of Voodoo covers on this thing.

Robocock (noodle vague), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

tour dates:


May 31, 2006 Vosselaar, Belgium Biebob
June 1, 2006 Zaandam, Holland Kade
June 3, 2006 Gelsenkirchen, Germany Rock Hard Festival
June 10, 2006 Norje, Sweden Sweden Rock Festival
June 25, 2006 Nantes, France Hellfest
June 30, 2006 Lobnitz, Germany With Full Force
July 1, 2006 Helsinki, Finland Tuska Festival
July 29, 2006 Gernkia, Spain Metalway Festival
August 4, 2006 Schleswig Holstein, Germany Wacken 2006
August 6, 2006 Kavarna, Bulgaria Monsters of Rock
August 26, 2006 Bergen, Norway Hole In The Sky Festival
September 12, 2006 Springfield, Virginia Jaxx
September 13, 2006 Springfield, Virginia Jaxx
September 14, 2006 New York City B.B. King's
September 15, 2006 New York City B.B. King's
September 16, 2006 Montreal, Quebec Medley
September 18, 2006 Toronto, Ontario The Opera House
September 19, 2006 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Rex Theatre
September 20, 2006 Cleveland, Ohio House of Blues
September 22, 2006 Detroit, Michigan Harpos
September 23, 2006 Chicago, Illinois Vic Theatre
September 24, 2006 Minneapolis, Minnesota First Avenue
September 25, 2006 Winnipeg, Manitoba Royal Albert Arms Yes
September 27, 2006 Calgary, Alberta The Warehouse
September 28, 2006 Edmonton, Alberta The Starlite Room Yes
September 30, 2006 Victoria, British Columbia Sugar
October 1, 2006 Seattle, Washington El Corazón
October 2, 2006 Portland, Oregon Roseland
October 3, 2006 San Francisco, California Fillmore Yes
October 4, 2006 San Diego, California House of Blues
October 5, 2006 Anaheim, California House of Blues
October 7, 2006 Los Angeles, California House of Blues
October 8, 2006 Phoenix, Arizona Marquee Theater
October 9, 2006 Las Vegas, Nevada House of Blues
October 11, 2006 Englewood, Colorado Gothic Theater
October 12, 2006 Albuquerque, New Mexico Sunshine Theatre
October 13, 2006 El Paso, Texas The Zone
October 14, 2006 San Antonio, Texas Sunset Station - Lonestar
October 16, 2006 Lawrence, Kansas Bottleneck
October 17, 2006 Saint Louis, Missouri Pop's
October 19, 2006 Fort Worth, Texas Ridglea Theater
October 20, 2006 Houston, Texas Warehouse Live
October 21, 2006 New Orleans, Louisiana House of Blues
October 23, 2006 Saint Petersburg, Florida State Theater
October 24, 2006 Fort Lauderdale, Florida Culture Room
October 25, 2006 Orlando, Florida House of Blues
October 27, 2006 Atlanta, Georgia The Masquerade
October 28, 2006 Myrtle Beach, South Carolina House of Blues
October 29, 2006 Fayetteville, North Carolina Jester's Pub
October 31, 2006 Charlotte, North Carolina Tremont
November 2, 2006 Norfolk, Virginia The Norva
November 3, 2006 Poughkeepsie, New York Chance Theatre
November 4, 2006 Worcester, Massachusetts Palladium

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

Tickets are already on sale for the Calgary show. That's nuts.

I'm going if Scott sez the new record is great.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Roll on Anaheim.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 March 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

so is there any realaudio/mp3s/streaming shit from this anywhere?

baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Friday, 31 March 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

I saw 'em in '86, I can't imagine that it'd be more awesome now than it was then

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 31 March 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'll bet they will be great live. They sound like they are ready to go. And on that note, the new album is one of the best "sounding" albums that they have ever made. Peter Tagtgren did an excellent job. Tom's voice is MASSIVE. He sounds better than ever. There are some truly unholy screams on Monotheist.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 31 March 2006 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

IT'S GOOD! (and REVIVE cause this thread doesn't show up in searches for some reason.)

i was really afraid it'd be a big mess of nu-metal & industrial influences and sound like it was desperately aping their early shit, but no - it's so dark and fucked up and the gothic touches actually do work. and that last track's a killer.

baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Friday, 7 April 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still not sure what I think of it after three listens. It is nice to see they've adopted a new approach, as noted directly above. But the lyrics are sort of banal. Not that I spend a lot of time listening to tom's lyrics. It's all about the:

"Hu!"
exclamations

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 7 April 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'm totally convinced. They did the CF name justice. Can't wait to hear the album without high-pitched anti-piracy beeps.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 7 April 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

it took me 3 or 4 songs to realize those weren't keyboards.

baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Those beeps sound like Oren Ambarchi was brought in to spice up the sound.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Those beeps sound like Oren Ambarchi was brought in to spice up the sound.

Ha!

This album, dare I say, is a triumph.

a. begrand (a begrand), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Nice, looking forward to a listen here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Just put this on. BRUTAL.

Harpal (harpal), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm only on track 3, but I concur with all the favorable reports. This shit kills, and I am definitely gonna be there in September for the NYC gig(s).

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
3 reviews, average 39%

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

the guy from anus.com seems to dig it, though.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 26 May 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

i agree with this (for the most part):


"For a comeback CD, this is of phenomenal quality, but the band must find their range first in style and next in songwriting, and that may take another release to get right. The music is good, but the aesthetics need work; it's too symmetrical, obvious, non-magical. Look to the next album for the art to match its concept."


It's way more than i expected, but i do think they could make an even better album if they keep at it. and they seem to want to. having said that, i still think monotheist is awe-inspiring. it is made up of sounds that i personally go nuts over.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

totally, and i can't wait for the next one. i'm going to have a hard time phrasing this, but monotheist is as advanced compared to their earlier work as blood inside is to early ulver, but it's still metal. and the fact that they haven't done anything in this vein for over a decade makes it all the more impressive.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 26 May 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

I think that review is really vague and crytpic; what do "find their range first in style" and "the aesthetics need work" and "art to match its concept" mean?? (I didn't even know there *was* a concept.)

Anyway, here's what I wrote on the rolling metal thread, and unlike the person whose review is quoted above, I go into specifics:

okay, scott and other people are gonna hate this, but that new celtic frost album really starts to drag long about track #8, "ain elohim," sounds like to me. #9 "tottengott" was so completely unlistenable i had to skip over it, then #10 "synagoga satanae", 14 fucking minutes long, is even draggier than #8 (and what the hell? synogogue of satan?? tom's not gonna get many passover seder invites this year, is he?). oddly, i was really enjoying the thing for the first seven tracks or so (the opening of "obscured" was so high-mass beutiful that i was hoping it was the one with the latin title, but nope, that was the track before.) i think i'm gonna set this thing aside for now, though, and come back to it later. (seriously, though, where does tom stand religion-wise? i mean, the album is called *monotheist,* duh! so it's not my imagination that the subject's been on his mind, right?)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), April 12th, 2006.


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ha ha, crucified barbara's album is more fun than the new celtic frost album! (at least it seems to be so far. and so far, i'd rank the new celtic frost album as their worst since their debut album, nowhere near as catchy as cold lake or vanity/nemesis, but i might change my mind about that. i need to go back and read what scott and other people say on this thread and that *monotheist* thread about why it's supposed to be so great, but right now i'm theorizing this is no different wishful- thinking-wise than will people say a new bowie or dylan album is their best since whenever. though like i said, i'm still liking a lot of it.) (though part of me wonders whether warrior's voice isn't kinda shot.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), April 12th, 2006.

So I've finally decided (how generous of me, huh?) that I'll give Celtic Frost's *Monotheist* the thumbs up, though I still say it's their least entertaining and hardest to get through album since before *To Megatherion*. Also, I don't understand why it's not called *Atheist,* since near as I can decipher his grunting that's the gist of what Warrior's words are trying to get across here. And I still think "Totengott" is horrible, with that stupid wicked witch exorcism screech voice doing its Khanate thing. (Is Khanate who I'm thinking of? I think so.) But for the most part, these guys really sound like nobody else, and they're catchy and truly eccentric in a way post-Slayer thrash (a big world, I know) almost never is. My favorite cuts are I think "Ground" (for the "Oh God why have you forsaken me?" hook), "Obscured" (for its high-mass opening part) and "Winter" (just because it's so beautiful and classical sounding). Also I decided that "Ain Elohim" (the one where Warrior keeps going "rummalummalummagrumblebutt" or whatever) is not bad and has a pretty cool ending, "Domain of Decay" has a great riff though it kind of wears out its welcome, and the 14-minute "Synagoga Satanae," though interminable, is also somewhat inexorable, and has a neat German Rammstein section in the middle. Also, most of the time, I wished they played faster. So can I file the CD away now?
-- xhuxk (xedd...), May 5th, 2006.

xhuxk, Friday, 26 May 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

we love you anyway, xhuxk.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

(Of course, I just realized, maybe that person DID go into specifics in the parts of the review that Scott *didn't* quote; I didn't check. And maybe the rest of the review made that sentence less vague, and more fully explained what the concept and aesthetics are.) (Actually, I just checked, and it looks like he does indeed, so I apologize for jumping on the vague line that Scott singled out!)

xhuxk, Friday, 26 May 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

monotheist is like a debut in some ways. it's a great template for a sound that can be expanded on later. a great starting point. you can add to it or make it even more bleak and minimal, but the core of it, those guitars and bass and the overall vibe and mood and sound is rock solid. i think that's what i got from that review. and what i will be looking forward to. tom has already said that the next album will be even bleaker and more miserable(!!)

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)


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