Doesn't anyone listen to hip-hop on this thing?

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Hip Hop artists you are listening to now and why:

Sage Francis - Pioneered punk provocation in rap. Thats why he is the first rapper to Epitaph ya heard?!?

Lil Wayne - Most swagger of anyone in hip-hop. Nicest and most manic flow in the game.

Immortal Technique - If the revolution started tomorrow..this motherfucker would be the first to know.

please add to this list man. if you think hip-hop is stupid, consider for a second that you may be wrong.

www.crispinglover.blogspot.com

peace

― Ian Manheimer (imanheim), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

i heart ilm

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

these kids today with their hippin and their hoppin...

― Bill Cosby (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

...and their mutterfukkin dis and vaterfukkin dat

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Is Ian short for MartIAN, as in MARTIAN MANHEIMER??? That would be awesome.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

we only listen to Kool Keith, Del, Slick Rick, RunDMC, and the almighty Lord Quas over here

― dj krush, Friday, 31 March 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

why does internet people always want to put www in front of Blogspot URLs when it isn't necessary? just curious.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

oranj ...er, just a thought

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

the fun part about that is you can put ANYTHING in there instead of www before a dot before the address, and it takes you to the page.

http://blahblahblah.m-matos.blogspot.com/

(xpost)

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Immortal technique is wack. The whole psuedo-revolutionary lyrical style is totally played out in backpacker hip-hop.

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

http://death-to.m-matos.blogspot.com

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://we-exalt.m-matos.blogspot.com

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://we-are-curiously-indifferent-to.m-matos.blogspot.com

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.underworldhiphop.net/image.php?band_id=158&mode=band_image&width=320&height=240

Immortal Technique looks like the lovechild of a Mario brother and a beaver and got beat-down by some weirdo Asian geek at Fat Beats.

Sage Francis is just a faggot who looks like an unregistered sex offender.

― Fat Assantino, Friday, 31 March 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

was anyone else initially disappointed that the comments at the beginning of this thread were some loser's thoughts on hip hop and not quotes from Crispin Glover? although it's all worth it to realize that in lower case with no spaces, his name looks like "crisping lover"

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

i'm glad i wasn't the only person to think "crisping lover"

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hiphop is the lowest form of music. There's no melodies and all rappers talk about is shooting people and smoking crack.

― Rodney's motives are beyond the comprehension of men (R. J. Greene), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

"crisping lover"

Great, now I'm imagining the duet:

http://www.rarerecords.com.au/photos/18392-2.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Sage Francis is just a faggot who looks like an unregistered sex offender.

-- Fat Assantino
Does being registered affect someones appearance?

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

is this a real thread?

― ++++, Friday, 31 March 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

The Manhamster has spoken.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

is this a real thread?

-- ++++ (...), Today

The poster's IP is unique, the crisping lover blog link leads to an actual blog, so possibly it is, yes.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

why does internet people always want to put www in front of Blogspot URLs when it isn't necessary? just curious.

Buncha savages in this town.

http://www.carleton.edu/curricular/MEDA/classes/media110/Ostlund/danterand.gif

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://home.online.no/~mthorst/radio/rpict/p_vic_Victrola-215_2.jpg

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

What a bunch of small-minded fucking idiots. The guy asks for some positive contributions to a perfectly valid question and all you lot can do is take the piss because he's not asking about the latest bedwetting indie sensation. I would have thought in a day and age where even your beloved Pitchfork embraces hip-hop as much as indie-rock, that so-called music lovers would be a bit more open to different genres. I'm not a massive hip hop head, but Lil Wayne and Ghostface have made two of the top five albums of the last year, and there's plenty more out there.

― Dixie Kong, Friday, 31 March 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Haha lovely.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

You're assuming that nobody likes hip-hop here while mentioning ghostface's album that is being discussed at this very moment in a nearby thread.

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

HOLD UP DID YOU JUST FUCK WITH INDIE ROCK?!?!?

― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO WHAT IS WRONG WITH WETTING YOUR BED PLEASE ANSWER

― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

if ptichfork wet its bed, would you?

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I would probably just be impressed that a website had to carry out such awesome bodily functions.

― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

haha I didn't know you could do that w/Blogspot, thanks guys!

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://you-are-welcome.m-matos.blogspot.com

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

duly noted, Dixie Kong! maybe we'll get into techno as well

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

let's introduce Dixie to Geir...

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

duly noted, Dixie Kong! maybe we'll get into techno as well

-- Matos-Webster Dictionary

It's all samples and boom-tsh. Not real music!

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

why does internet people never want to hip hop?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

YSI Hip Hop?

― Robocock (noodle vague), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

# Ghostface set to release new album "Fish Scale" in December (the title supposedly refers to the purest form of cocaine) (47 new answers, last at 8:20 pm)
# Doesn't anyone listen to hip-hop on this thing? (36 new answers, last at 8:19 pm)
# The Next Big L? The Next Jay-Z? (prolly not but I must admit this new Papoose mixtape is great) (8 new answers, last at 8:19 pm)

ha ha ha ha

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

there's also that Three-Six Mafia thread...

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Those 3 were adjacent at the time.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

I guess newcomers to ILM who are shocked & appalled by the relative dearth of hip hop talk can't be expected to know the tedious particulars of various regulars who used to post about rap constantly, many of whom got fed up and either left entirely or only really respond to threads and no longer attempt to start threads or turn people onto stuff, which at some point just started to feel like an exercise in futulity. but it is kind of hilarious when some herb stumbles in here and thinks he's going to teach people who Lil Wayne is.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

what is this "relative dearth" you speak of

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

relative darth. he had a track on soundbombing iii.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

Really rough analysis of the New Answers page as of a few minutes ago (with all judgment calls made half-assed and haphazardly) has the thread volume breaking down something like this:

15% - electronic dance music, synth-pop, etc.
15% - indie rock, post-punk, etc.
13% - mainstream pop and rock (non hip-hop chart music)
10% - hip-hop
07% - magazines, media, and criticism
04% - metal, hard rock, and other offensive noises
03% - "world"
02% - country
02% - psychedelic
01% - jazz
28% - misc. (not genre-specific)

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

relative darth

He's your father, then.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

IS LIL WAYNE A TINY VERSION OF MIKE MYERS

― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Sage Francis - Pioneered punk provocation in rap. Thats why he is the first rapper to Epitaph ya heard?!?

this is the best!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

cuz up to then rap was not provocative, nosirreee

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

first rapper to Epitaph, YA HEARD????

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Dude said manic.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Unfortunately I'm old enough to remember when "hip-hop" was more about self-expression, and less about political flag waving self-righteousness (from the fans not the artists). I guess the later was just easier for MTV to sell.

― nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

i watched Yo MTV Raps all the time. it was awesome.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

ahh i love this

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

I am listening to Britney Spears' "My Prerogative" and she is more talking than singing. Is this hip-hop? Even if she does not have "Li'l" before her name?

― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

the only hip hop i listen to is uffie

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds like a stuffed animal name

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

when hip-hop and martyrdom were polar opposites...

Am I romanticizing the past again? Oh Shit, I'm off!

― nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

the only hip hop i listen to is uffie
-- cutty (holle...), March 31st, 2006 3:47 PM. (later)

that sounds like a stuffed animal name
-- M@tt He1geson (matt@game[remove]informer.com), March 31st, 2006 3:50 PM.

so does Papoose, LOL

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

STUFFED ANIMALS ARE GULLY!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

"Sage Francis - Pioneered punk provocation in rap. Thats why he is the first rapper to Epitaph ya heard?!?"

Yo, bumrush the St. Paul!

― js (honestengine), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

apparently that's all anyone likes in this god forsaken place

― corey c (shock of daylight), Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

lil' bow wow
lil' flip
lil' jon
lil' kim
lil' wayne

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 1 April 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

alphabetical order ya heard?!?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 1 April 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Doesn't anyone put rappers in alphabetical order on this thing?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 1 April 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

If the revolution started tomorrow..this motherfucker would be right before Inspectah Deck and right after Ill Bill.

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 1 April 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

no indiepop, and then i go and read the braindead postings over at indiepages.com. i am sad.

― keyth (keyth), Sunday, 2 April 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

El-P
Fantastic Damage
Definitive Jux, 2002

A decade ago El-P’s juvenile techniques included a postmodernly worship of the most impish and inebriated Afro-Latin horn-loopers that the backstreets of the blighted outer boroughs ever produced, ranging from the mambo meets Mixmaster Mike true school semiotics of the Beatnuts to the lush orchestral soundscapes swollen by smatterings of gorgeously carved soul slices epitomized by Pete Rock. Since these halcyon days of contraband-laden knapsacks and the usual blucka-blucka dun doggerel, the epiphenomenona that is Co-Flow/El-P/Def Jux has transcended the stifling parameters of hip-hop’s predictable tedium, an artificial limitation that is often self-imposed as a psychological defense mechanism against the same pulverizing social constructions that have rendered our once glorious urban centers into repositories of vice, crime, and moral decrepitude. If Funcrusher Plus can be accurately described as the mid-90s sacrificial lamb of scattershot sampledelica viewed from the perspective of an errant tourbus coasting through the antediluvian labyrinth of Gotham’s deteriorating core, and The Cold Vein is Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein meets Paul’s Boutique and engages in a 108-round no-holds-barred bareknuckle boxing match with Kool Moe Dee as referee and Kool Keith and Prince Paul as celebrity commentators, then it can be rightfully said that Fantastic Damage is a tour de force of Voltairian proportions, with dissonant moods and substructures pantomiming a plethora of chimeric anti-tropes salvaged from the veritable wreckage of post-industrial modernity and put through the basement torture chamber of Neitzche-esque quasi-fascist uber-conformity, resulting in a panoptical glimpse into the prelapsarian palimpsest we have all come to know and love. Highlights include the draconian use of detuned electric mandolins in conjunction with spaghetti strainers and muted samples of a planetarium presentation narrated by Leonard Nimoy on “Fraggle Fuck Godwin 7.8,” which dares to eschew the Escher-esque pentameter of contemporaries like Masta Ace and Jean Grae in favor of a positively Byzantine boom-bap relieved of any irrational demands for lucidity, rhythm, or linear sense. A bona fide masterpiece. 5/5 stars.

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― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Sunday, 2 April 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

That looks like English, and even reads like English, but is not, in fact, English.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I was about to say, doesn't this belong on the "Why we hate music writers" thread?

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

I just had an epiphenomenona.

― Rodney's motives are beyond the comprehension of men (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

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