Organum / David Jackman

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the kind of band with dozens of limited edition releases seemingly as alike a trees. a search through the ILM archives has many posters all enthusiastically recommending totally different albums as 'the best' and that is always a good sign. perhaps there is no best, but if everyone could chime in with what they've heard and like, I'm ready to take the plunge -- I just heard the Desola ep and a compilation of the 7" singles and yes it's my kind of music.

which one to buy next?

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

typo, /as trees

gasp

the Desola ep, is the beast

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Hi Milton!

My favorite is Sphyx, Ikon is also excellent. Also search Vacant Lights, Veil Of Tears, and Bird's Wings.

Destroy all the overpriced singles. The best ones have been added to CD reissues anyway. God, that guy pisses me off.

Jackman solo is all about the "Sol Mara" disc, totally gorgeous. I haven't heard anything else worth getting, the Eisen 10" and Laus 7" are particularly annoying.

The early stuff is pretty good but not as mind-altering, the Volume One and Volume Two discs are still in print on Robot but get Sphyx first...

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

And yeah Desola rulez. So does "Kammer" a CD single released around the same time.

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 31 March 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

download the singles on slsk. they're floating around and worth hearing. the 10" reissue (about 8 minutes long, total) of "terrain" and something else he did with philip sanderson is also worth hearing if you don't have to pay $16 for it.

only jackman/organum i've heard that didn't really do much for me was fiery holes. my favorite is probably birds wings. anyone heard die hennen zähne?

if you enjoy the early organum stuff look for the dead fish fuck LP on kormplastics. it's a near-perfect imitation.

baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

much appreciated. sounds like I'll track down Sphyx, and ReRUSA has Veil of Tears in stock, and the other ones mentioned I can buy as I find

for soaring ruined organic ensemble-performed noise wall majesty, this is as good as it gets

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 31 March 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Sphyx thirded or whatever. sounds monstrous on vinyl.
i recall kicking myself for missing a copy of Vacant Lights as a friend's auditioning of it some years on found it to be really quite lovely. think that's back on cd as well, but recall some backlash about it being paired with something else not as crucial.

Beta (abeta), Friday, 31 March 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

IIRC the backlash was due to the 2nd disc including some but not all of the rare singles while being only like half an hour long (i.e there was room for all of them). And yeah, I was more referring to the glut of newer Jackman/Organum singles as being less than pleasing, all the old ones I've heard have been of the same consistently high quality.

sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 1 April 2006 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Great thread -- Stormy Davis (IIRC) put an Organum track on an ILMiXor comp and I've been forgetting to track down more of their music.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 1 April 2006 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

going through this compilation of around fifteen 7" singles -- many of them apparently one-sided vinyl, many of the tracks around two minutes long, all of them priced to the skies, I can see why people lost patience

thing is, all the music is outstanding -- even the later stuff, to these ears. though it's all similar after a while and I certainly would have given up on paying $12 a pop just to maintain a complete set, I can see why they were released as singles

that might be easier for me to say having downloaded them. though they did instantly prompt an order for two of their albums.

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 1 April 2006 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

a self-made comp? i recall some sides being like sticking your head out the window on the highway, just invigorating, face-rippling blasts but the metaphors were much cheaper than the objects themselves.

Beta (abeta), Saturday, 1 April 2006 01:54 (eighteen years ago) link

not made by me, compiled online by someone else (de silencio I think) from disparate sources, two volumes

if all the Cathar castles & ruins in the south of france tore loose from the ground and began floating about forty feet off the ground, this would be the sound that you'd hear

Sphyx reissue, edition of 700 copies -- http://www.robotrecords.com/releases/rr30/

milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 2 April 2006 01:09 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
starting off with desola and the 7" singles as a first impression was odd -- those are pieces with somewhat higher noise quotients, scraping as they float

the three records I've gotten since are mellower, hazy, anti-gravitational but not violently so.

Sphyx -- Christoph Heemann , David Jackman , Dinah Jane Rowe , Eddie Prévost , Jim O'Rourke. Majestic first track in particular.

Submission way diffused, skyhigh ether music, programmed to repeat, Andrew Chalk , David Jackman , Dinah Jane Rowe , Steven Stapleton.

Veil of Tears is the most scattered -- I started here because it was the ReR approved one, and it is the most chinstrokey -- bookended by two long verité field recordings of metals being rubbed in what sounds like a warehouse -- a little more challenging. Been going to the other two albums more often.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, those bookend tracks don't really do it for me either. The three in between are some of my favorite Organum pieces, especially "Delta".

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

will listen again without the bookends

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll just add one more recommendation for Bird's Wings; from your comments above, you'd probably enjoy that one.

Also, Flaxed/Crux by Organum and Edfdie Prevost is good and probably fairly readily available.

Dr Benway (dr benway), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link

That is to say, "FLAYED/Crux"

Dr Benway (dr benway), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 11:12 (eighteen years ago) link

i like this one, especially the Organum track.

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

So if I love Sphyx and love Jackman's Sol Mara even more, what's my next Organum purchase? The stuff that sounds more like Andrew Chalk and less like the New Blockaders is what I'm hoping for.

Some Richard Skelton vibes on some of this stuff, too! I like the 'acoustic' sound of the ones mentioned above: sounds more like things being bowed, plugged, bonged, etc, than wall-o-noise style.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 18 December 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link

go immediately to Ikon, do not pass go. After that, Sanctus, Vacant Lights, and Submission are probably the least noisy ones besides the two you mentioned... Jackman's Up From Zero is earlier & denser but still very cool imo

unfortunately nothing else sounds quite like Sol Mara, I wore that thing into the ground and still listen to it now & then

sleeve, Friday, 18 December 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link

Thanks! That oughta keep me busy through the holiday.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 19 December 2015 00:20 (nine years ago) link

nine years pass...

going through a big binge, if anyone has MP3s of the Kanroku 12" please ilxmail me

he's been putting out a ton of new solo discs as well as new ones under the Organum Electronics name, I finally picked a few up and they are dense shifting walls of sound. anyone else listening to this newer stuff?

sleeve, Friday, 27 December 2024 17:58 (one week ago) link

Thanks for the thread revive. Jackman/Organum has been feeling appropriate for this time of year. I haven't heard any of his more recent efforts but have been sinking deeply into both Sanctus and Vacant Lights. Definite early morning musick.

sleeve, check your ilxmail for a Kanroku link.

sawdust lagoon, Monday, 30 December 2024 17:22 (four days ago) link

omg thank you so much!

yah I love Sanctus, great vibes on that

some great descriptions of the sounds from Milton Parker upthread! I had forgotten.

sleeve, Monday, 30 December 2024 18:05 (four days ago) link

so correct me if I'm wrong, but the Organum releases have always been heavily processed acoustic recordings, yeah? bowed cymbals and the like lots of times, or the shakuhachi loops of Sol Mara. I *think* that's why the new stuff (which I believe is done w/actual electronics and no acoustic sources) is called Organum Electronics (duh), and it does sound different.

sleeve, Monday, 30 December 2024 18:08 (four days ago) link

Yeah, FdW has a similar understanding in his review of Organum Electronics' Solitude (Vital Weekly #1289)

sawdust lagoon, Monday, 30 December 2024 23:52 (four days ago) link


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