and i would like ilm to do my thinking for me. any compelling points i should raise about these records?
Alice In Chains - DirtAC/DC - Back in BlackLed Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin 4Marvin Gaye - What's Goin' OnVan Morrison - MoondanceStevie Wonder - Songs In The Key Of LifeWeezer - PinkertonTom Waits - Sword Fish Trombones
i am starting to wish i had a greater knowledge of classic rock.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:36 (nineteen years ago)
― musically (musically), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:38 (nineteen years ago)
killed soul music dead
― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)
all those albs are dope and if u don't know them you should probably kill yrself b4 talking about music. well, except for fuckin WEEZER, everybody knows they completely suck ass. but yeah, everything else on that list Rools. Write that
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 1 April 2006 07:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:00 (nineteen years ago)
― Jack Cole (jackcole), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)
Anyone who's been near FM rock radio in the past 30 years has heard all these songs a million times, so just skip to the last track.
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Harpal (harpal), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:10 (nineteen years ago)
hahhahahahaha ok moron
― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)
am i allowed to talk about music i have heard, even if i haven't heard all these records?
thanks for help with alice in chains!!!!!!
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)
hows the weather in LA guys? is the new kompakt stuff slammin? I haven't had a chance to check Simon blog yet? please let me know
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:33 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:37 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:46 (nineteen years ago)
let's RIP IT UP AND START AGAIN
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:47 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:48 (nineteen years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:49 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:57 (nineteen years ago)
might have = might (not) have.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:01 (nineteen years ago)
― gear (gear), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)
― gear (gear), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:08 (nineteen years ago)
― dr lulu (dr lulu), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)
JB might be the only one to get this one, but I just kinda feel like
Duke Basketball :: Pet SoundsDuke Lacrose :: What's Goin On
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:17 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Mr _Deeds (Mr_Deeds), Saturday, 1 April 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)
er, this is for publication? and you're getting paid? sweet deal!
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 1 April 2006 10:56 (nineteen years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 April 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 1 April 2006 11:17 (nineteen years ago)
Dirt— Boy, I like smack. Dad was in 'Nam. Also, I'll probably keep doing smack until I die. In an 'Angry Chair' (WTF?). Remarkably accurate.
Back in Black— Duh-duh-dnt duh-duh-dnt... Awesome AC/DC. You'll instantly know the songs, even the ones that are rarely on the radio. Great album.
IV— Stairway to Heaven. Less Tolkienism than previous outings, though still present.
What's Goin' On— Vastly overrated by white hippies. Good production, but lots of stupid lyrics. Title track is awesome, that fools people into thinking it's a good album.
Moondance— Morrison thinks he's jazzy, is really just smoov. My little brother and his high school girlfriend declared this "their" album and ruined it for me by playing it to death. YMMV.
Songs In The Key Of Life— Also overrated, uneven. Much like Prince or Marvin Gaye, sometimes the sheer heights reached make you forgive the maudlin crap. Also, he's blind.
Pinkerton— Great overlooked album that gets kinda boring by the end. Still, the first half is really excellent. By now it's been dismissed, then lauded, then had the backlash. Contrarians are confused.
Swordfish Trombones— Only heard this album while working with someone who loved it. OK, I guess, but depends on your tolerance for caberet and Waits' voice. Classic but inessential.
― js (honestengine), Saturday, 1 April 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)
You'd get away with it for the Alice in Chains and Led Zeppelin albums too.
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Saturday, 1 April 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Saturday, 1 April 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Saturday, 1 April 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)
― my offer $till $tand$ (lovebug starski), Saturday, 1 April 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 1 April 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)
what happened was i got a call asking if i could write 10-15 blurbs for the "best albums ever" thing in the mag by sat aft and i said yes i would. i asked, "if i haven't heard the albums, will i e-mail you back and you can get someone else to do them", they said nah its ok, just research them. i didn't know what albums they wanted me to do at this stage, they later sent me a list of 17 albums they wanted blurbs for, including the ones above (i have heard the other ones!).
it's probably bad form on their part, and it's probably unethical of me to do it, but they knew the score when they gave them to me, and i could use the money! i think they gave it to me because they know i can churn stuff like this out quickly and for a reasonable fee!
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 1 April 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 1 April 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)
oh, i totally understand, killian. have been put in similar positions before, though with enough time to buy the albums before deadline. its just... how could this lead to anything actually worth reading? beyond killian getting a chance to show off his writing chops, the opinions contained within couldn't hope to be anything other than innacurate or a blind survey of received opinion.
gah... i hate some editors.
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Saturday, 1 April 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Saturday, 1 April 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 1 April 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)
― blunt (blunt), Saturday, 1 April 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)
this is when you go on limewire or bittorrent or soulseek or whatever and download them all. it's all major label and they mostly all sold millions of copies so i wouldn't feel too bad about illegal downloading. except for swordfishtrombones. go buy that. you should anyway.
i'm not sure weezer belongs on a best albums of all time list. nor do i think led zep's 4 is better than houses of the holy or physical graffiti, but then again, i couldn't say. it's all fucking godhead, except maybe in through the out door or coda, but even those aren't bad. swordfishtrombones is not tom waits' best album, though it's pretty damned close. i'd say that honor goes to small change for his early stuff and mule variations or rain dogs for his later stuff. but swordfishtrombones was his breakout i'm-going-to-do-weirder-shit-now album, so maybe it belongs on there just by that fact. hmph. almost everything he's ever done is brilliant. it's a tossup.
i'm no help. just go download them all and listen to them in a huge spurt. it'll be incredibly rewarding, cause most of those are absolutely phenomenal. ps: stevie wonder and marvin gaye make soul music.
― Emily B (Emily B), Sunday, 2 April 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Sunday, 2 April 2006 05:04 (nineteen years ago)
- i only had a few hours to write all these blurbs, so going and getting the albums was not possible unfortunately, if i had a few days to do it i would have bought/borrowed them (my brother definitely owns a some of them) but they needed them in yesterday afternoon.
- re: "ps: stevie wonder and marvin gaye make soul music." - yeah, this was my fault for saying "i am starting to wish i had a greater knowledge of classic rock." upthread - i didn't mean to imply that *all* the albums on the list were rock, i meant, broadly speaking, this is a time where i wish i knew more about classic rock, because i'm writing blurbs for a best albums of all time thing, and a lot of them happen to be rock albums, rock albums that i haven't heard. i also wish i knew more about soul music, too, yes.
- also, i haven't actually stolen chunks of anyone's work, or taken quotes from anyone off the thread, i basically just had to write my own pieces on each album based on received wisdom and stuff i've picked up about them through the years, which is slightly different to just copying and pasting.
- also, apologies again for my snappish tone upthread.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 2 April 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)
slightly different but no less disengenuous. then again, when I was an edidiot at R0))ing $t0ne I used to suspect some (many?)reviews were written this way. glad you were able to make a few lbs/bux Killian but surely you understand why other music writers (or ex mw's) might find this thread a bit, uh, depressing. good luck!
next time: actually listening to the music -- even a 30 second taste -- will make it easier to write about. guaranteed!
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 2 April 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)
you should have taken the opportunity to make up some stupid VH1 style anecdotes.
Stevie Wonder-Songs in the Key of Life: "a little known fact, dire straits actually wrote every song on "songs in the key of life" however the lead singer of dire straits at the time was.........prince"
Van Morrison-Moondance-"Although weddings around the world chose "Moondance" for the first dance, few knew it was actually written as a critique of Southern Irish apathy concerning the troubles in Northern Ireland"
Led Zeppelin-Led Zeppelin 4-"The original lyrics for this album were written in vomit".
erm perhaps this is why I no longer work for the mag in question.
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)
Marvin Gaye-What's Going On-"Although Gaye never recieved an answer for his question here, this album would "go on" to sell several million copies, and he would "go on" to be a famous soul singer. What's Going On? What's going on; one of the greatest soul albums of all time. That's What's Going On. Go on."
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)
I'm not even a music writer and it depresses the hell out of me, despite having long abandoned the fanciful idea that journalists or their editors have any integrity these days.
― Rombald, Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Monday, 3 April 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)