Mike Patton's "Peeping Tom"

I know she's all grown up and stuff, but, hey, "motherfucker"

my favorite track is the dub trio one, we're not alone. reminds me of dillinger escape plan's patton ep but, y'know, more dubby.

also good: neighborhood spaceman with jel and odd nosdam and then kill the dj with massive attack.

(they were great live last night anyway)

I've never heard the first Dub Trio album, only the new one (which I like). Were they not a Blind Idiot God clone all along?

I don't expect to like this, but I'm still interested in hearing it.

I agree. It sounds dated because it's way past its expiration date - Mike Patton should have finished this five years ago. Problems: Patton's using his rap-rock vocals instead of his underrated singing voice (which is what made most of his other projects shine). There's hardly any melody. Lyricism sucks. You can barely spot the guest influence on most of the tracks. General Patton was a step forward, this is five steps back.

The first album is straight instrumental dub, no metal beats or distorted guitars. I'm all about it.

Ya same here, 1st album was might fine. It wasn't 100% old skool dub, though. "we're not alone" is only track I like on the new dub trio.

I'm surprised the Patton apologists haven't arrived to defend Peeping Tom but then again: this is ILM!

I'll probably like this a lot, nonetheless.

Therefore, I think that Mike has done it again. Defied any stereotypes put on him and makes a quality record that he and his fans can enjoy. It just wouldn't be his style if this album sounded like a Fantomas or Bungle album. So take it for what it is, not what you expected it to be or what you wish it was. Don't force it, just listen.

Peeping Tom is a gem full of energy, intricity and downright FUN. I dropped the new Tool leak for this album and have been listening all day. A couple tracks lose me, sure, but then others bring me back tenfold. And unlike 98% of others, I've got nothing against the lyrics. Gawd forbid he makes a creative and satirical spin on the cultural trainwreck we call pop music. It's simply wonderful, fun, smile-on-my-face-the-whole-time Patton energy.

Where the fuck are all you hearing this album?? Where are you guys getting the tracks??

Where are these tracks floating around on the net?

Plus, if this album does suck as much as most of you say it does, then just listen to any of the other 20+ amazing albums that Patton has been involved with. This guy knows how to make real music, so what if he can't do pop?

Where are these tracks floating around on the net?

A lot of the people who post on this board are writers, and so get slick advances from the Ipecac.

Good luck finding it on the net. CD is copy-protected like fuck, and just made a bunch of noise when i tried to put it on my ipod.

This guy knows how to make real music, so what if he can't do pop?

Because he's a guy filled with a million creative ideas and zero hooks?

i'll disagree with this one. his lyrics are always at least pretty good, with pointed, often fucked up imagery (dillinger escape plan - pig latin), often funny ("this beat could win me a grammy!") and even moving: hell just listen to Faith No More - Ashes to Ashes

the one thing that he never is is obvious. it just seems so off to here Patton sing lines like "roll it up and smoke it again" because he normally sings lines like:

A smiling drunk nursing a glass of milk
A girl with a face like prison bread

if what he's saying is pop music is obvious, and so his lyrics are obvious. then meh. he's better than that. and seeing as how in interviews he's mentioned that it's been on the shelf forever, he probably feels the same.

with that said, i still like the album. i am a patton fanboy after all.

IDEAS PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT OF BY YAMATAKA EYE AND ENNIO MORRICONE. but hey i love Mikey P. this album is just crappy.

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-- Christopher Bungle (robertsc...), April 26th, 2006.

Um. You have heard Lovage "Music To Make Love To Your Old Lady By", right?

you are ON MESSAGE!

I'm enjoying this, actually. Typically self-indulgent, and the singing's a bit too mannered (I'd like to hear him cut loose with that big booming tenor ocaisionally), but there's lots of interesting, inventive stuff here, and some his catchiest melodies for ages.

MIKE PATTON YOU RULE!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PjWC4jIzdI

i didnt like: getaway(keith was subpar, lyrics blew, no real melody or good lyrics), kill the dj(not horrible, but just lackluster again),caipirinha(can you say, girl from ipanema gone bad?), celebrity death match(-2 for lyrics/melody, +1 for kid koala) sucker(really didn't like this one, norah jones did nothing for the song, but put a name on it, would have been better getting any other woman to sing it)

That sucked.

"i didnt like: getaway(keith was subpar, lyrics blew, no real melody or good lyrics), kill the dj(not horrible, but just lackluster again),caipirinha(can you say, girl from ipanema gone bad?), celebrity death match(-2 for lyrics/melody, +1 for kid koala) sucker(really didn't like this one, norah jones did nothing for the song, but put a name on it, would have been better getting any other woman to sing it)"

But the rest is good. I think Patton has a great "singing" voice. He is not great with Hip-Hop, should definitely stick to Rock, or get some actual funk.

Mr. Bungle's California is the absolute pinnacle of this artist's work so far ...still. Followed closely by The Director's Cut (Fantomas) and Disco Volante.

t3h pimp hath spoken, so stfu.

HOW WE EAT OUR YOUNG
By Mike Patton

If music is dying, musicians are killing it. Composers are the ones decomposing it. We are as responsible as anyone--although we'd love not to admit it. We lash out at "The Industry", blaming things like corporate structure for our shitty music--but we are the ones making it. We open the box they've given us and jump in, wrap ourselves up, and even lick the stamp. Why? Insecurity--the need for acceptance--maybe even money. We're not thinking about our music, just how it looks. One would rather have the warm tongue of a critic licking his asshole than the tongue of his spouse. It gives him a sense of validity and power. He seems to defy gravity.

Maybe it is because he doesn't know what the hell else to do. He sees it coming--but freezes with panic like a deer in the headlights. Don't laugh--I've done it and you probably have too. And it has undoubtedly effected out music. (But have we learned anything form it?) We know that we are mostly a lot of slobbering babies who need constant stroking. We realize also in the moral order of society, we occupy positions similar to the thief, pimp, or peeping tom. We know that even if one has the pride of a bull, it is hard enough just to remain focused in this world. It gives us milliona upon millions of images--distractions--all saying the same thing at the same time: DO NOT THINK. If your fantasy and desire give you migraines, how easy it is to forget them when there is so much to look at.

Our creations die quickly when abandoned like this. Do we realize that we are eating our young? It seems the passion that moves us is accompanied by an incredible urge to squash it. It is as quick as a fucking reflex--a conditioned response. It it a sexual problem? A puritanical one? The most intense and convincing music achieves a sexual level of expression, but what we normally feel is frigidity and limpness. It is just too easy for an artist to 'socialize' his desires when life tells him cardboard is OK. You should be ashamed of yourself! What is your fucking problem? If you don't come out, sooner or later you will die in there. Use chunks of yourself. Bodily fluids. Look left and right. Sift through others' belongings. Borrow. Steal. And try to achieve some sort of pleasure while doing it.

This excitement should increase and intensify when you visualize it being shared by a number of people. Think about it. If it comes from inside you, it is automatically valid--it just may or may not be good. Because if it is not communicating in some way, its pleasure is as short-lived as a quick fuck in the back room. It doesn't mean shit. The labor of many composers is to construct elaborate walls of sound--but we often forget to leave a window or door to crawl out of. ow can we survive in these clever little rooms? We must eat our creation or we will starve. At this point, we have heard what we wanted to hear--our ears have shut down. We've resigned as slaves to our own gluttony.

But if we have boarded up our learning environment, our only way out is to teach what we know. Will they listen? Why should they? Because they need you as much as you need them. You can save them from being swallowed up by the world--they can save you from being swallowed up by the world. Young and old players should be seeking each other out and using each other. They should develope a healthy exchange of smut--and learn to wear each other's masks. In this kind of environment, incredible things can happen. Music can emerge that is athletic and personal. Music that is riddled with contradictions--impossibilities. And that is the shit that can defy gravity.

(The End)

The Dub Trio track is fantastic as well.

"Among the CDs Patton has picked out, one can't help but notice, is a Melissa Etheridge album. What gives? "I like the cover art on this," he says unapologetically, holding up its silver cover with the singer peeking through a cut-out keyhole. He ends up actually buying it."

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000001E8L.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000F3TBIO.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_V50752746_.jpg

check this out, its the mojo music video.
tell me after watching this that he is making typical pop music.

(o and pay attention at the end because youll see a regular Patton fan...Danny Devito.)

OH NOES. How will the indie label survive such a soul-crushing defeat?

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the dub trio album is ace too...despite the cross-promotion.

I'll be seeing them live soon. should be interesting.

I was exactly the opposite...not into the dub. but the two go together surprisingly well - and for the first time ever I'm considering investigating 'proper' dub. never been a passion before.

This thread is hilarious. And for the record, I think this album is unspeakably bad.