Neil not so Young

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Is there life in the old dog yet? He mighten like the smell of Rolling Stone but the rehashing of b side ditties from the 80s in Silver and Gold sure stinks. Goodbye Neil...

― kiwi, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

al least he doesn't do the 'i can still shake on stage' thing like mick jagger.

and as for silver & gold, i think there are still some nice enough songs on the album. The dvd, apart from the cranberries candle light, is pretty tight too.

― olly 360, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

take your bitterness and cast it out with the salt! roll on is a) great and b) officially adopted by the U.S. airforce. no isn't growing on his stone AND he has a WEEN sticker on his guitar pedal. S&G is great, he's great, chicks love him, dudes love him and Are You Passionate? will make it work.

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― Steve K, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What an ugly fuckin' cover...matches the title. Last thing I heard from him was that single, "Plod On", which was just dire. Without spark of any kind. Oh well.

― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

For someone who's always been inconsistent, but has hit the peaks now and then from the '60s into the '90s, I'm willing to keep paying attention to Neil Young. I could listen to him play Like A Hurricane live all day, and I'm glad to say that Neil is heading towards that.

― Martin Skidmore, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Neil dung...er Young...for some reason rock critics love him..I loathe him..he has a voice like my grannies...

― richee, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He just needs to quit those charity tours with CSN. Seriously, Dave Crosby must have gone broke paying for that liver or something becuase otherwise there can be no excuse for this.

He just needs to make another Crazy Horse record. Can't you feel him coming back around to it?

― Dave Beckhouse, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just got home from a LeTigre show and some Johanna Fateman inter- song banter went something like this:

Do you guys ever argue about Neil Young? There's the 'Neil Rocks' camp, and then there's the 'Neil Sucks' camp. Myself, I find him inspirational.... yet problematic. This song is about that inner dialogue, and that dialogue you may carry on with others.

What's Yr Take on Cassavetes??

― Ron Hudson, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wonder what Johanna finds "problematic" about Young. I'd assume it's the actual things that are wrong with him - his whiny voice, uneven back catalogue, dud 'experimental' phases and 'grunge dad' image - except that the way she put it implies she thinks he's politically incorrect in some way. "Cortez the Killer" has some of the dumbest, most heavy-handed lyrics of all time, and that slightly dopey side of Neil has always kept me from taking him seriously. He's about as good as Dylan after the motorcycle accident (but without a "Blood on the Tracks" or even a "Desire" - just a lot of "New Mornings"), but what critics who elevate him to godlike status seem to ignore is that he was never even close to being as good as Dylan BEFORE the accident.

I saw Le Tigre last week. They were great. Kathleen Hanna is the most inspiring onstage performer I've ever seen.

― Justyn Dillingham, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"helpless" and "like a hurricane" live are enough to rate him a permanent place in the pantheon

― Phong Wiedermeier, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Cortez the Killer" has some of the dumbest, most heavy-handed lyrics of all time
One of my favourite songs of all-time. Definitely not a light and funny pop song but why "dumb"? That song shows quite well what I like about Neil. He sings what he thinks no matter if it is politically correct or not. He is courageous. To sing on the white people who slaughtered the Indians is not really popular in America. That is almost like a German rock band singing on the holocaust. I like Neil's lyrics. They are very personal which is rare nowadays.

― alex in mainhattan, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think "Cortez the Killer" is one of his best too.

― Sean, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The thing about the song that for all the stupid oversimplification of the situation, it's all about that line "He came dancing across the water." Like Shiva, like some sort of chaotic force that's at once mesmerizing and utterly destructive. For all the Dylan talk, frankly I'll take that *one* line -- six words -- over Le Bob any day of the week.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My software's not compatible with you...

― kiwi, Friday, 15 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

While I do think it's a good song, the triteness of Neil's take on the situation reduces its impact for me. I agree that the first line is very powerful, and that's the kind of ominous ambiguous feel he should have tried to keep in the rest of the song, instead of nonsense like "Hate was just a legend/War was never known." I think what Cortez did was evil but idealizing the Aztecs does them no service. And the way it turns into a love song in the last verse seems completely inappropriate. Though I will say that a lot of Dylan's political songs, like "George Jackson," are just as clunky and one-sided.

― Justyn Dillingham, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, I agree the song taken at face value becomes stupid overidealization. Any society where hearts were chopped out as sacrifice isn't my idea of Eden. But this is another reason why I'm not overtly concerned with lyrics most of the time -- the feel of the song accentuates that one opening line perfectly, and takes it to a higher level.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

bah, needs more Crazy Horse albums, though I cant make it through Cowgirl In The Sand or Down By the River any more.
Even though he wasnt moving around the stage too fast and spent most of it hunched over, he showed Oasis how to kick ass in a big open venue. Prisoners of Rock and Roll followed by Keeping on Rocking in The Free World was the greatest encore I have ever witnessed, also one of the cheesiest when I think back to it but hell it was great at the time.

― Mr Noodles, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Saw him in Birmingham last year. Great. As my companion pointed out during a squally solo, here was a sold-out stadium listening to a 60- y-o bloke playing avant-garde rock music.

― dan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...

Neil Young Recovering From Brain Aneurysm

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 2 April 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh fuck. That had better be some kind of tasteless April Fool's joke. SHIT.

― retort pouch (retort pouch), Saturday, 2 April 2005 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Or else he just wanted to get out of the Juno awards. Seriously, it sounds like trouble was averted and the procedure went as well as can be hoped.

― brianiad (briania), Saturday, 2 April 2005 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

He was the biggest attraction at the Junos this year. He hadn't performed at the Junos in over 20 years and hasn't performed in Winnipeg in seven or eight years. It's a huge blow for the show. But of course, I'm glad he's OK.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 2 April 2005 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

neil young has always been funky

― strgn, Saturday, 9 February 2008 07:45 (eighteen years ago)

strgn has always been drunky

― stephen, Saturday, 9 February 2008 08:17 (eighteen years ago)

ten years pass...

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― calstars, Saturday, 30 June 2018 01:28 (seven years ago)

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